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Often in this article, its called DS. But why! It isn't officially shortened. I demand all if it gets changed to Nintendo DS. PS. SONY IS STUPID!!! 173.86.62.176 ( talk) 15:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Ethan.
Something is wrong with these sale numbers, it says 400,000 were sold during March and 440,000 were sold in its opening week. The 3DS was released the last week of the month so the month and first week sales should be the same. -- Shadow ( talk) 04:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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There is an incorrect information on the page. It states that for the user to scale the DS games to DS resolution, the user must hold START and SELECT upon starting the game. Actually, the user must hold either START or SELECT. 161.148.171.8 ( talk) 19:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry but you aren't right, but if you where right, you should include a source, or else you have no chance of getting changed. TheBradford msg Bradford 18:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Nope, it's either start OR select. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.36.68 ( talk) 20:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
When the device is operating in 3D mode, the front display serves as the parallax barrier, consisting of a series of opaque vertical stripes which block half of the light coming from the screen to each eye, so to compensate, the device's backlight has to be twice as bright and consequently the battery drains twice as quickly.
Now, while true and sourced, I kind of feel like this should be removed from the reception. Reception usually exerts some sort of judgement or opinion of the writer, while this is merely the stating of facts. It'd be good in a hypothetical section about the battery or something though. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 13:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Is it listed in the article that Nintendo dropped Nintendo Wi-Fi and they started using bg Wi-Fi??? I don't have a source because I only saw it on the back of the box. But if anyone has a source for it, it should be added. TheBradford msg Bradford 16:23, 19 May 2011 (UTC) But I could be wrong, I just saw a bg Wi-Fi sign on the back of the box. And I don't see Nintendo Wi-Fi anymore. Does anyone have a source proving this? TheBradford msg Bradford 16:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
There is no 3DS Messaging service. There is just a small Friend list Application which you can use to upload small Status messages. You cannot Message individual friends. I tried to amend this problem on Wikipedia, but it was changed back. Can a member of the site please help. Thank you.
Stickman, as far as I know, you were correct, the 3DS Messaging is the "short status message". (I say, "as far as I know", because I haven't messed with it much yet, as I've yet to come across anyone else who has a 3DS.) So, it really wasn't that the "source was wrong" - the info itself was correct - it's more that it was kind of labeled weird in the article... Sergecross73 msg me 14:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
The Sun wrote a (pretty dumb) article about health and safety for the 3DS : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3511602/Sun-tests-sickly-Nintendo-3DS.html Should it be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.195.90 ( talk) 19:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The Sun is a tabloid, so anything like this should be taken with a pinch of salt, a lot of their "reporting" is sensationalist garbage. I think most people buy it for their Page Three girls and the colouring in anyway. While I guess it can be for specific news information and facts (at least according to a casual look at [1]), this seems little more than an opinion piece. And as mentioned, there is probably already coverage in more reliable press. Rehevkor ✉ 10:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
this article had been here for a few months. why hasnt anyone put which generation it is? Ecreme ( talk) 23:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
According to http://www.defectivebydesign.org/nintendo a website by the FSF, the 3DS has a very restrictive and intrusive TOS (term of service). Shouldn't we add that ? -- Jertonit ( talk) 12:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Any other sources of this? We don't want to violate WP:UNDUE. Is this even a reliable source? Rehevkor ✉ 14:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
The camera section of the technical comparison states that the 3DS has two 3D cameras on the back, and although it is true it has two cameras on the back, it only has one "3D" camera, 3D simply being two 2D cameras properly placed horizontally.
For it to have two 3D cameras on the back it would need 3-4 cameras near each other. Michael Reineke ( talk) 16:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
You do not need to hold down both. The article is incorrect as written. The following sentence needs to be modified:
"However, if the user holds down the START and SELECT buttons upon launching the DS software, the displays will be at the DS's native resolution, albeit smaller with black borders."-- 128.227.13.35 ( talk) 21:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
There is no info about the browser, and it has been released. Quadrplax ( talk) 01:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- From http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/built-in-software/#/8 you can cite a few things: a) Browses the internet via wifi b) can be run with a game paused in the background c) upload 3D images to sites designed to support such.
- From http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/nintendo-3ds-eshop-and-web-browser-go-live-50004025/ you can cite: a) doesn't support Flash b) can upload and download 3D images from supported sites c) can be accessed during gameplay.
- From http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2011/06/guides_3ds_eshop_update_faq?page=4 you can cite: It's faster and more powerful [ie, better compatibility]
- From http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/nintendo-3ds/news/nintendo-chooses-netfront-for-its-3ds-internet-browser/a-20110228124610593047/g-20100616102754448006 you can cite: a) It is Netfront-based instead of Opera, which Nintendo has previously chosen for both the Wii and DS/DSi web browsers b) it is "more flexible" [ie, better compatibility] thanks to the improved hardware. 76.10.165.130 ( talk) 21:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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I would like to add the current and discontinued tab to the comparison
117.197.248.211 ( talk) 11:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
the dsi is the most popular handheld console in norway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 12:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
check spaceworld.no. it is one of the major norwegian multimedia shops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed users removing the amount of the prices drop citing WP:NOPRICE as their rationale. To my understanding, that policy is more relevant to articles like List of Nintendo 3DS games, where people try to price out every single game. It's to keep wikipedia from being like a catalog or directory. (Hence, why the "NOPRICE" link actually links to the "Wikipedia is not a directory" section of policy.)
Furthermore, look at point #5. In general, if mainstream media sources (not just product reviews) provide commentary on the price of an object instead of just passing mention, this is an indication that its price may have encyclopedic significance.. A quick google search would show you that there are likely hundreds of websites chiming in on their commentary as far as what the price cut means.
Therefore, I feel that the actual amount of it's price, and the amount of the cut (shown in dollars or % cut) is important to note in the article. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I think the pricedrop needs a little more note then the one sentence mention in the opening paragraph. I also don't see any mention of the ambassador program. Were I more of a word smith, I would add them, but they do warrant a bit more coverage in the article methinks. 160.107.87.10 ( talk) 13:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Sub-question ... does the Ambassador program (now effectively complete, since the GBA games have launched) belong in the lead at all? It certainly belongs in the article, but placement in the lead seems to give extra weight to the topic. -- McDoob AU 93 21:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi. The one sentence mentioning the web browser is a good addition. Any expanding that could be done? (e.g. Are there things that set it apart from the dsi browser?) I'll gladly contribute if anyone knows of some good sources that can be relied upon to help expand the section. Thanks. 67.182.237.57 ( talk) 18:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm sorry that I am unable to edit the Nintendo 3DS article, and I can see some good reasons why. I would just like to request that I put down the 3DS' new price in the US ($169.99) and the effective date. Of course I would have to find the proper source to credit the information. Thank you. 75.136.226.133 ( talk) 17:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
The article was recently changed to state The system comes in the "Aqua Blue" and "Cosmo Black" color variations, and as of August 10, "Flame Red". however the problem is the red 3DS will not be released until sept. 9[ [3]]. Can someone please correct this as the currently wording implies that the Flame Red 3ds came out today.-- 76.66.180.220 ( talk) 22:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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There's a new color called Flame Red and its coming soon in September.
70.180.211.90 ( talk) 00:07, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Large changes... I apologize.
That 3DS vs DS comparison table is probably the only predecessor vs successor out there in Wikipedia. Never seen DS vs GBA, PS3 vs PS2, Wii U vs Wii, and such. Who and/or where that "3DS vs DS" idea come from? There may be some DS features backward compatible with 3DS or maybe DS Lite has better battery life than 3DS, but that doesn't make it a 3DS vs DS.
The versus table with fallen DS columns suit well in Nintendo DS article.
Any additional opinions support/against this? Rukario-sama ^ㅈ^ -(...) 23:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
So should we give it another try (the info may need to update after some major changes) and see how it goes? Rukario-sama ^ㅈ^ -(...) 08:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Nothing is stated that at this time the 3DS is a flop, with only 40 games available after 6 months (most of which are rehashed from the DS). I believe the article should be allowed to have a fair criticism section (as long as it is backed up, of which there are plenty of original sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.34.116 ( talk) 12:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Is the copy editing template still necessary? Chris ( talk) 00:36, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Quick heads up, since I can't edit, Monster Hunter 3G should just be Monster Hunter Tri G. That way, you'll be able to quick link to that page (as of this posting it is undefined). AATroop ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:46, 22 September 2011 (UTC).
While I don't actually disagree with the sentiment, there are issues. I recall reading that Nintendo did not intend for their DS to compete with the PSP, which implies that the same could apply to the 3DS. The above statement suggests that are intentionally pitching the consoles against each other which we cannot presume to be true. The Vita hasn't even been released yet and last time I checked no one can predicted the future. Either way, it's unsourced per the above I have issues with not just the lack of sources but the wording and what it implies as fact. Яehevkor ✉ 03:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
So anyways, in conclusion, if you're still not convinced, we can wait and see what others say. I'd be open to wording it differently if you think, but I think it should be in there, and I feel like it'd just be constantly re-added by others if it's removed anways, because it seems to be recognized as such in general. Sergecross73 msg me 17:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there any mention of these two games within the Mii Plaza? If there is, that's great: can someone tell me where they are? I would've thought that the Streetpass Quest could have a page all by itself, considering the expansion of content included with Quest II. Zsingaya ( talk) 00:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a minor/slow edit war brewing over the image. The two options are the original File:Nintendo-3DS-AquaOpen.png and File:Black_Nintendo_3DS.jpg. Personally the original blue 3DS image is vastly superior in quality and clarity. Яehevkor ✉ 21:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't doubt that Nintendogs may no longer the best selling game. But which is it? I've read in reliable sources that 3D Land and Mario Kart have sold over a million in the US alone (as examples), VGchartz is not reliable. Anyone able to dig up some sources to de-throne Nintendogs? Яehevkor ✉ 18:24, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Something's not right here. Looking at the image placed in an article, it shows children playing the Nintendo DSi, not the 3DS. Look at the camera on the outer casing. Hounder4 ( Talk) 10:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
140.168.135.1 ( talk) 07:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC) Nobody has bothered to add info about all the flashcarts (including the R4) for the 3DS? This article almost sounds like it is written by nintendo themselves given that it mentions that they solved the piracy problem but doesnt mention that it only lasted maybe a few months...........
There is this, and probably others. But they're all running in DS mode probably using the same exploits that allowed them to run on DSi units (which also run in DS mode only). There is currently zero 3DS game piracy, I believe currently some groups have managed to dump games, but there is no way to play them. Some of the DS articles ( Nintendo DS homebrew/ Nintendo DS storage devices) have become playgrounds for unsourced or badly sourced information on "homebrew" (a.k.a rampant piracy), I'd rather not see that happen here.. Яehevkor ✉ 15:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this source is reliable? Because if it is, then we could add that the 3DS's processor is 1 GHz dual core ARM11. Likesorange ( talk) 00:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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While the news of the 3DS XL is exciting, the upgrade does not merit it's own page. The DSi XL and DSi pages we're merged after some discussion and most came to the conclusion that there was significant overlap (since the consoles only have one major difference, the size), so there is minimal content which could be covered on a separate page. The changes in the system should be covered as a section on the original 3DS page. Does this reasonable to everyone else? Mrtube ( talk) 13:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that after the 3DS XL was merged here the section on this page now has a separate infobox for that system. I personally don't think it is needed (The DSi XL section on the main DSi does not contain one) but I thought that it would be best to ask for more input before a removal was attempted.-- 174.93.167.177 ( talk) 23:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Nintendo UK's official website says 96mm. Adding it in. Source: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/3DS_XL/3DS_XL_en_GB/ -- 128.227.103.68 ( talk) 07:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I'd hazard to say that the sources and content added here provide no encyclopedic value to the aritcle and are merely advertisements for downloading their product, free or not. Unless this was some noteworthy release, which it does not appear to be from my quick scan of the relevant content. In any case, I'll let the regular editors of this article decide it. Dreadstar ☥ 17:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Since this seems to be the focus of a major content dispute, it's time to open discussion. Exactly what is the clock speed for the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) in the Nintendo 3DS? After looking at the two provided sources in the infobox, along with articles that those two sources link to, my conclusion is that there is no official statement of the default clock speed of the processor.
The first source, from Tom's Guide references an article from 1UP, which provides the name of the chip and a number of stats. Some of those stats are based on a given clock speed of the processor (200 MHz). One can assume that is the normal clock speed for the selected processor, but remember that key word: assumption. The 1UP article does not say what the normal clock speed is for the PICA200 as installed in the Nintendo 3DS, so that's a dead-end.
Now let's move to the second source from the infobox, this time from Siliconera. This one seems to be the source of the biggest argument, because it makes the statement that the GPU is running at 400MHz. However, looking deeper, I don't think we can take this as very authoritative. To begin with, Siliconera gets its information from two other articles, from Eurogamer and from HCW. The Eurogamer article gives the polygons/second stats, but then states those figures "assume that the GPU is operating at its peak of 200MHz". (There's that word again: "assume".) They further state that because "Nintendo has a history of prioritising battery life, it wouldn't be surprising at all if the company downclocked the part, especially bearing in mind the relative low resolution of the screen". Again, they're making assumptions, although they do state that the chip's normal peak speed is 200MHz.
The author of the HCW article, however, goes in a completely different direction, stating that because "[the GPU] draws up to 1 mW per 1 MHz of clock speed, we can assume that the 3DS will probably have it clocked at a minimum of 400 MHz, since 400 mW isn’t very high at all for a 3D chip" (emphasis mine). Then, after a discussion of how much power is being used by a PlayStation Portable, the author makes this statement: "It isn’t unreasonable to assume most of that is going to 3D (certainly at least 400 mW) which puts it right in line with a 400 Mhz Pico 200 chip in the 3DS." Does something look familiar? That "assume" word again.
Every single one of these articles is making assumptions. None of them is stating the facts we're trying to attribute to them ... that is, none of them explicitly state the normal clock speed of the GPU within the Nintendo 3DS. Some state what earlier iterations of the chip have done, and some make assumptions of what they think it will do. But, none says what it is actually DOING.
-- McDoob AU 93 15:41, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
A majority of reports out there agree that the 3DS has some version of the ARM11 CPU. However, what is lacking is consensus on the CPU's specs and even model number. During one early teardown of a Japanese model fresh off the production line, model number 1048 0H was shown to be printed on the CPU. Yet, another teardown days later presumably from another Japanese model depicts a different model number - 1037 21. So, one has to ask, are we even talking about the model number here? If so, why the disparity? This questions the validity of the source cited in the comparison chart.
There's also the mention of the CPU being dual-core which isn't backed by that source. Can we get some clarification on this as well? — GoneIn60 ( talk) 03:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
in a Info it Says a Pad Controller Pro For The 3DS XL Later in 2012 Its Near End of 2012? Rename Later in 2013 or Possible of No Pro Pad For The XL? ( LionelTheDeal ( talk) 19:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC))
There seems to be some controversy over the article's section on the Nintendo Network, especially after its appearance on Wii U. One statement in the article states that Nintendo hasn't announced plans regarding expanding Nintendo Network IDs to the Nintendo 3DS (thus presenting a unified presence across all enabled consoles), while another editor keeps removing the statement. However, in doing so, they state that Nintendo has expressed an interest in bringing Network IDs to the 3DS, but provides no source to back that up. In my opinion, the statement is not necessary; this section describes the implementation of Nintendo Network as it currently stands on 3DS. Further, if a source is being demanded to indicate that Nintendo has said Network IDs are coming, then I think it's reasonable that we have a source indicating Nintendo hasn't made a statement (i.e., a reliable source has asked the question and gotten the standard "we don't comment on rumors and speculation"). Without that, we have original thought. Opinions? -- McDoob AU 93 00:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
That's a valid point. One could also argue that the IDs are an integral part of Nintendo Network, or at least how it functions on the Wii U. Anyone familiar with that would want to know there's a difference that exists on the 3DS when reading the article. Imagine being able to use "some" of the services of Xbox Live on a particular device without the need to have a gamertag. It's a fictional example, of course, but if it were true, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some mention of that in the device's article. You wouldn't just say the device features Xbox Live without also pointing out that some of its services aren't available and that the method of authentication is radically different. Also, the argument that a link to another article is enough doesn't sit well with WP:LINKSTYLE, which states we shouldn't "assume that readers will be able to access a link at all, as, for example, they might have printed an article and be reading the hard copy".
The 3DS features Nintendo Network, but the service doesn't come with all of its pieces intact. I'm convinced the distinction is relevant enough to be included. Other thoughts, objections, or concerns? -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 04:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I am against the "It is unknown whether or not" type wording, as it sounds speculative, and only invites further commentary of speculation. There's an unlimited number of things that are "unknown" about it. It's unknown if it will ever have a 6 inch screen, or if it will ever cost $50. People are going to clutter it with that sort of thoughtless speculation if we keep statements like this in. If it is really deemed that necessary to specify, I'd suggest just wording it along the lines of "Nintendo Network is compatible with the 3DS, but as of this time, NNID's are not." Sergecross73 msg me 16:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
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Often in this article, its called DS. But why! It isn't officially shortened. I demand all if it gets changed to Nintendo DS. PS. SONY IS STUPID!!! 173.86.62.176 ( talk) 15:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC) Ethan.
Something is wrong with these sale numbers, it says 400,000 were sold during March and 440,000 were sold in its opening week. The 3DS was released the last week of the month so the month and first week sales should be the same. -- Shadow ( talk) 04:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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There is an incorrect information on the page. It states that for the user to scale the DS games to DS resolution, the user must hold START and SELECT upon starting the game. Actually, the user must hold either START or SELECT. 161.148.171.8 ( talk) 19:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry but you aren't right, but if you where right, you should include a source, or else you have no chance of getting changed. TheBradford msg Bradford 18:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Nope, it's either start OR select. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.36.68 ( talk) 20:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
When the device is operating in 3D mode, the front display serves as the parallax barrier, consisting of a series of opaque vertical stripes which block half of the light coming from the screen to each eye, so to compensate, the device's backlight has to be twice as bright and consequently the battery drains twice as quickly.
Now, while true and sourced, I kind of feel like this should be removed from the reception. Reception usually exerts some sort of judgement or opinion of the writer, while this is merely the stating of facts. It'd be good in a hypothetical section about the battery or something though. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 13:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Is it listed in the article that Nintendo dropped Nintendo Wi-Fi and they started using bg Wi-Fi??? I don't have a source because I only saw it on the back of the box. But if anyone has a source for it, it should be added. TheBradford msg Bradford 16:23, 19 May 2011 (UTC) But I could be wrong, I just saw a bg Wi-Fi sign on the back of the box. And I don't see Nintendo Wi-Fi anymore. Does anyone have a source proving this? TheBradford msg Bradford 16:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
There is no 3DS Messaging service. There is just a small Friend list Application which you can use to upload small Status messages. You cannot Message individual friends. I tried to amend this problem on Wikipedia, but it was changed back. Can a member of the site please help. Thank you.
Stickman, as far as I know, you were correct, the 3DS Messaging is the "short status message". (I say, "as far as I know", because I haven't messed with it much yet, as I've yet to come across anyone else who has a 3DS.) So, it really wasn't that the "source was wrong" - the info itself was correct - it's more that it was kind of labeled weird in the article... Sergecross73 msg me 14:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
The Sun wrote a (pretty dumb) article about health and safety for the 3DS : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3511602/Sun-tests-sickly-Nintendo-3DS.html Should it be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.195.90 ( talk) 19:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The Sun is a tabloid, so anything like this should be taken with a pinch of salt, a lot of their "reporting" is sensationalist garbage. I think most people buy it for their Page Three girls and the colouring in anyway. While I guess it can be for specific news information and facts (at least according to a casual look at [1]), this seems little more than an opinion piece. And as mentioned, there is probably already coverage in more reliable press. Rehevkor ✉ 10:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
this article had been here for a few months. why hasnt anyone put which generation it is? Ecreme ( talk) 23:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
According to http://www.defectivebydesign.org/nintendo a website by the FSF, the 3DS has a very restrictive and intrusive TOS (term of service). Shouldn't we add that ? -- Jertonit ( talk) 12:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Any other sources of this? We don't want to violate WP:UNDUE. Is this even a reliable source? Rehevkor ✉ 14:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
The camera section of the technical comparison states that the 3DS has two 3D cameras on the back, and although it is true it has two cameras on the back, it only has one "3D" camera, 3D simply being two 2D cameras properly placed horizontally.
For it to have two 3D cameras on the back it would need 3-4 cameras near each other. Michael Reineke ( talk) 16:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
You do not need to hold down both. The article is incorrect as written. The following sentence needs to be modified:
"However, if the user holds down the START and SELECT buttons upon launching the DS software, the displays will be at the DS's native resolution, albeit smaller with black borders."-- 128.227.13.35 ( talk) 21:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
There is no info about the browser, and it has been released. Quadrplax ( talk) 01:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- From http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/built-in-software/#/8 you can cite a few things: a) Browses the internet via wifi b) can be run with a game paused in the background c) upload 3D images to sites designed to support such.
- From http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/nintendo-3ds-eshop-and-web-browser-go-live-50004025/ you can cite: a) doesn't support Flash b) can upload and download 3D images from supported sites c) can be accessed during gameplay.
- From http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2011/06/guides_3ds_eshop_update_faq?page=4 you can cite: It's faster and more powerful [ie, better compatibility]
- From http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/nintendo-3ds/news/nintendo-chooses-netfront-for-its-3ds-internet-browser/a-20110228124610593047/g-20100616102754448006 you can cite: a) It is Netfront-based instead of Opera, which Nintendo has previously chosen for both the Wii and DS/DSi web browsers b) it is "more flexible" [ie, better compatibility] thanks to the improved hardware. 76.10.165.130 ( talk) 21:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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I would like to add the current and discontinued tab to the comparison
117.197.248.211 ( talk) 11:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
the dsi is the most popular handheld console in norway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 12:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
check spaceworld.no. it is one of the major norwegian multimedia shops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed users removing the amount of the prices drop citing WP:NOPRICE as their rationale. To my understanding, that policy is more relevant to articles like List of Nintendo 3DS games, where people try to price out every single game. It's to keep wikipedia from being like a catalog or directory. (Hence, why the "NOPRICE" link actually links to the "Wikipedia is not a directory" section of policy.)
Furthermore, look at point #5. In general, if mainstream media sources (not just product reviews) provide commentary on the price of an object instead of just passing mention, this is an indication that its price may have encyclopedic significance.. A quick google search would show you that there are likely hundreds of websites chiming in on their commentary as far as what the price cut means.
Therefore, I feel that the actual amount of it's price, and the amount of the cut (shown in dollars or % cut) is important to note in the article. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I think the pricedrop needs a little more note then the one sentence mention in the opening paragraph. I also don't see any mention of the ambassador program. Were I more of a word smith, I would add them, but they do warrant a bit more coverage in the article methinks. 160.107.87.10 ( talk) 13:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Sub-question ... does the Ambassador program (now effectively complete, since the GBA games have launched) belong in the lead at all? It certainly belongs in the article, but placement in the lead seems to give extra weight to the topic. -- McDoob AU 93 21:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi. The one sentence mentioning the web browser is a good addition. Any expanding that could be done? (e.g. Are there things that set it apart from the dsi browser?) I'll gladly contribute if anyone knows of some good sources that can be relied upon to help expand the section. Thanks. 67.182.237.57 ( talk) 18:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm sorry that I am unable to edit the Nintendo 3DS article, and I can see some good reasons why. I would just like to request that I put down the 3DS' new price in the US ($169.99) and the effective date. Of course I would have to find the proper source to credit the information. Thank you. 75.136.226.133 ( talk) 17:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
The article was recently changed to state The system comes in the "Aqua Blue" and "Cosmo Black" color variations, and as of August 10, "Flame Red". however the problem is the red 3DS will not be released until sept. 9[ [3]]. Can someone please correct this as the currently wording implies that the Flame Red 3ds came out today.-- 76.66.180.220 ( talk) 22:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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There's a new color called Flame Red and its coming soon in September.
70.180.211.90 ( talk) 00:07, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Large changes... I apologize.
That 3DS vs DS comparison table is probably the only predecessor vs successor out there in Wikipedia. Never seen DS vs GBA, PS3 vs PS2, Wii U vs Wii, and such. Who and/or where that "3DS vs DS" idea come from? There may be some DS features backward compatible with 3DS or maybe DS Lite has better battery life than 3DS, but that doesn't make it a 3DS vs DS.
The versus table with fallen DS columns suit well in Nintendo DS article.
Any additional opinions support/against this? Rukario-sama ^ㅈ^ -(...) 23:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
So should we give it another try (the info may need to update after some major changes) and see how it goes? Rukario-sama ^ㅈ^ -(...) 08:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Nothing is stated that at this time the 3DS is a flop, with only 40 games available after 6 months (most of which are rehashed from the DS). I believe the article should be allowed to have a fair criticism section (as long as it is backed up, of which there are plenty of original sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.34.116 ( talk) 12:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Is the copy editing template still necessary? Chris ( talk) 00:36, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Quick heads up, since I can't edit, Monster Hunter 3G should just be Monster Hunter Tri G. That way, you'll be able to quick link to that page (as of this posting it is undefined). AATroop ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:46, 22 September 2011 (UTC).
While I don't actually disagree with the sentiment, there are issues. I recall reading that Nintendo did not intend for their DS to compete with the PSP, which implies that the same could apply to the 3DS. The above statement suggests that are intentionally pitching the consoles against each other which we cannot presume to be true. The Vita hasn't even been released yet and last time I checked no one can predicted the future. Either way, it's unsourced per the above I have issues with not just the lack of sources but the wording and what it implies as fact. Яehevkor ✉ 03:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
So anyways, in conclusion, if you're still not convinced, we can wait and see what others say. I'd be open to wording it differently if you think, but I think it should be in there, and I feel like it'd just be constantly re-added by others if it's removed anways, because it seems to be recognized as such in general. Sergecross73 msg me 17:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there any mention of these two games within the Mii Plaza? If there is, that's great: can someone tell me where they are? I would've thought that the Streetpass Quest could have a page all by itself, considering the expansion of content included with Quest II. Zsingaya ( talk) 00:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a minor/slow edit war brewing over the image. The two options are the original File:Nintendo-3DS-AquaOpen.png and File:Black_Nintendo_3DS.jpg. Personally the original blue 3DS image is vastly superior in quality and clarity. Яehevkor ✉ 21:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't doubt that Nintendogs may no longer the best selling game. But which is it? I've read in reliable sources that 3D Land and Mario Kart have sold over a million in the US alone (as examples), VGchartz is not reliable. Anyone able to dig up some sources to de-throne Nintendogs? Яehevkor ✉ 18:24, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Something's not right here. Looking at the image placed in an article, it shows children playing the Nintendo DSi, not the 3DS. Look at the camera on the outer casing. Hounder4 ( Talk) 10:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
140.168.135.1 ( talk) 07:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC) Nobody has bothered to add info about all the flashcarts (including the R4) for the 3DS? This article almost sounds like it is written by nintendo themselves given that it mentions that they solved the piracy problem but doesnt mention that it only lasted maybe a few months...........
There is this, and probably others. But they're all running in DS mode probably using the same exploits that allowed them to run on DSi units (which also run in DS mode only). There is currently zero 3DS game piracy, I believe currently some groups have managed to dump games, but there is no way to play them. Some of the DS articles ( Nintendo DS homebrew/ Nintendo DS storage devices) have become playgrounds for unsourced or badly sourced information on "homebrew" (a.k.a rampant piracy), I'd rather not see that happen here.. Яehevkor ✉ 15:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this source is reliable? Because if it is, then we could add that the 3DS's processor is 1 GHz dual core ARM11. Likesorange ( talk) 00:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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While the news of the 3DS XL is exciting, the upgrade does not merit it's own page. The DSi XL and DSi pages we're merged after some discussion and most came to the conclusion that there was significant overlap (since the consoles only have one major difference, the size), so there is minimal content which could be covered on a separate page. The changes in the system should be covered as a section on the original 3DS page. Does this reasonable to everyone else? Mrtube ( talk) 13:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that after the 3DS XL was merged here the section on this page now has a separate infobox for that system. I personally don't think it is needed (The DSi XL section on the main DSi does not contain one) but I thought that it would be best to ask for more input before a removal was attempted.-- 174.93.167.177 ( talk) 23:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Nintendo UK's official website says 96mm. Adding it in. Source: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/3DS_XL/3DS_XL_en_GB/ -- 128.227.103.68 ( talk) 07:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I'd hazard to say that the sources and content added here provide no encyclopedic value to the aritcle and are merely advertisements for downloading their product, free or not. Unless this was some noteworthy release, which it does not appear to be from my quick scan of the relevant content. In any case, I'll let the regular editors of this article decide it. Dreadstar ☥ 17:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Since this seems to be the focus of a major content dispute, it's time to open discussion. Exactly what is the clock speed for the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) in the Nintendo 3DS? After looking at the two provided sources in the infobox, along with articles that those two sources link to, my conclusion is that there is no official statement of the default clock speed of the processor.
The first source, from Tom's Guide references an article from 1UP, which provides the name of the chip and a number of stats. Some of those stats are based on a given clock speed of the processor (200 MHz). One can assume that is the normal clock speed for the selected processor, but remember that key word: assumption. The 1UP article does not say what the normal clock speed is for the PICA200 as installed in the Nintendo 3DS, so that's a dead-end.
Now let's move to the second source from the infobox, this time from Siliconera. This one seems to be the source of the biggest argument, because it makes the statement that the GPU is running at 400MHz. However, looking deeper, I don't think we can take this as very authoritative. To begin with, Siliconera gets its information from two other articles, from Eurogamer and from HCW. The Eurogamer article gives the polygons/second stats, but then states those figures "assume that the GPU is operating at its peak of 200MHz". (There's that word again: "assume".) They further state that because "Nintendo has a history of prioritising battery life, it wouldn't be surprising at all if the company downclocked the part, especially bearing in mind the relative low resolution of the screen". Again, they're making assumptions, although they do state that the chip's normal peak speed is 200MHz.
The author of the HCW article, however, goes in a completely different direction, stating that because "[the GPU] draws up to 1 mW per 1 MHz of clock speed, we can assume that the 3DS will probably have it clocked at a minimum of 400 MHz, since 400 mW isn’t very high at all for a 3D chip" (emphasis mine). Then, after a discussion of how much power is being used by a PlayStation Portable, the author makes this statement: "It isn’t unreasonable to assume most of that is going to 3D (certainly at least 400 mW) which puts it right in line with a 400 Mhz Pico 200 chip in the 3DS." Does something look familiar? That "assume" word again.
Every single one of these articles is making assumptions. None of them is stating the facts we're trying to attribute to them ... that is, none of them explicitly state the normal clock speed of the GPU within the Nintendo 3DS. Some state what earlier iterations of the chip have done, and some make assumptions of what they think it will do. But, none says what it is actually DOING.
-- McDoob AU 93 15:41, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
A majority of reports out there agree that the 3DS has some version of the ARM11 CPU. However, what is lacking is consensus on the CPU's specs and even model number. During one early teardown of a Japanese model fresh off the production line, model number 1048 0H was shown to be printed on the CPU. Yet, another teardown days later presumably from another Japanese model depicts a different model number - 1037 21. So, one has to ask, are we even talking about the model number here? If so, why the disparity? This questions the validity of the source cited in the comparison chart.
There's also the mention of the CPU being dual-core which isn't backed by that source. Can we get some clarification on this as well? — GoneIn60 ( talk) 03:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
in a Info it Says a Pad Controller Pro For The 3DS XL Later in 2012 Its Near End of 2012? Rename Later in 2013 or Possible of No Pro Pad For The XL? ( LionelTheDeal ( talk) 19:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC))
There seems to be some controversy over the article's section on the Nintendo Network, especially after its appearance on Wii U. One statement in the article states that Nintendo hasn't announced plans regarding expanding Nintendo Network IDs to the Nintendo 3DS (thus presenting a unified presence across all enabled consoles), while another editor keeps removing the statement. However, in doing so, they state that Nintendo has expressed an interest in bringing Network IDs to the 3DS, but provides no source to back that up. In my opinion, the statement is not necessary; this section describes the implementation of Nintendo Network as it currently stands on 3DS. Further, if a source is being demanded to indicate that Nintendo has said Network IDs are coming, then I think it's reasonable that we have a source indicating Nintendo hasn't made a statement (i.e., a reliable source has asked the question and gotten the standard "we don't comment on rumors and speculation"). Without that, we have original thought. Opinions? -- McDoob AU 93 00:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
That's a valid point. One could also argue that the IDs are an integral part of Nintendo Network, or at least how it functions on the Wii U. Anyone familiar with that would want to know there's a difference that exists on the 3DS when reading the article. Imagine being able to use "some" of the services of Xbox Live on a particular device without the need to have a gamertag. It's a fictional example, of course, but if it were true, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some mention of that in the device's article. You wouldn't just say the device features Xbox Live without also pointing out that some of its services aren't available and that the method of authentication is radically different. Also, the argument that a link to another article is enough doesn't sit well with WP:LINKSTYLE, which states we shouldn't "assume that readers will be able to access a link at all, as, for example, they might have printed an article and be reading the hard copy".
The 3DS features Nintendo Network, but the service doesn't come with all of its pieces intact. I'm convinced the distinction is relevant enough to be included. Other thoughts, objections, or concerns? -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 04:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I am against the "It is unknown whether or not" type wording, as it sounds speculative, and only invites further commentary of speculation. There's an unlimited number of things that are "unknown" about it. It's unknown if it will ever have a 6 inch screen, or if it will ever cost $50. People are going to clutter it with that sort of thoughtless speculation if we keep statements like this in. If it is really deemed that necessary to specify, I'd suggest just wording it along the lines of "Nintendo Network is compatible with the 3DS, but as of this time, NNID's are not." Sergecross73 msg me 16:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
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