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Hey all,
Muboshgu undid an edit of mine that added an "opposition" section to the mentioned article. I do not think its the right call because the opposition (and the relationships between the candidates) in the '24 primaries is a key element in understanding Haley's campaign. I believe this undo should be reverted and the opposition section added to the page.
The '24 GOP primaries, and each individual campaign, is inherently motivated by the relationships between the key players. Additionally, In an election where each candidate (declared or anticipated) has adopted such similar policy stances, the true motivating factor for voters and campaigns alike are the personality, relationships, and messaging of and between the candidates. This is reflected in the reporting on Nikki's campaign, how her campaign may impact the overall candidate field, and the primary election itself (see: cpac v. club for growth situation). Haley's campaign announcement itself was controversial for her prior promise to not run if Trump did. So from its inception, this campaign has been morphed by Haley's relation to other candidates. This is true for the other candidates, too; the most recent example would be Trump's recent preemptory attack on Desantis. The opposition section's inclusion provides brief, fundamental background knowledge towards helping readers understand the context surrounding and directly impacting her campaign.
He argued that 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries covers this opposition topic. However, it is nothing more than a mere list of people who have declared or are suspected to declare, with some polling and debate information. It lacks any relation to the substantial role oppositional relationships play in the development of the primary campaigns and, eventually, the primaries themselves.
My proposed section does exactly that, with a specific focus on Haley. Again, a huge motivating factor in the development of both Haley's campaign and the primary race is the relation and interaction between the candidates. So you are right when you say "This is Nikki Haley's campaign." and this is her article. My section belongs here as an informative segment of a catalog of her campaign. A key undercurrent of that campaign are things like attacks on other candidates, polling, and methods Haley uses to distinguish herself from other candidates; all of which my section covered. These are key undercurrents to her race because they matter to the campaign, are highly calculated, and speak to the strength, intention, description of Haley, her message, her reception, media coverage, and–ultimately–her campaign itself.
The key takeaway here is that Nikki Haley's campaign and its actions have been and will continue to be directly impacted by the opposition in the race. Therefore, my proposed section–highlighting a limited number of key statements from Haley and from others about Haley–provides educational, objective, and necessary information to readers.
I understand his concern about including content that may be tangental to Haley's campaign. I'm sure there is room for tailoring the section to ensure that each line is directly referencing all of the elements I've mentioned. But scrapping the whole section does not serve the Wikimedia mission statement to collect and develop education content.
For all these reasons, I think it is clear that the opposition section is relevant and deserving of inclusion on this article.
Moonlightlenook (
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 January 2024 and 15 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jordansheer ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Jordansheer ( talk) 15:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hey all,
Muboshgu undid an edit of mine that added an "opposition" section to the mentioned article. I do not think its the right call because the opposition (and the relationships between the candidates) in the '24 primaries is a key element in understanding Haley's campaign. I believe this undo should be reverted and the opposition section added to the page.
The '24 GOP primaries, and each individual campaign, is inherently motivated by the relationships between the key players. Additionally, In an election where each candidate (declared or anticipated) has adopted such similar policy stances, the true motivating factor for voters and campaigns alike are the personality, relationships, and messaging of and between the candidates. This is reflected in the reporting on Nikki's campaign, how her campaign may impact the overall candidate field, and the primary election itself (see: cpac v. club for growth situation). Haley's campaign announcement itself was controversial for her prior promise to not run if Trump did. So from its inception, this campaign has been morphed by Haley's relation to other candidates. This is true for the other candidates, too; the most recent example would be Trump's recent preemptory attack on Desantis. The opposition section's inclusion provides brief, fundamental background knowledge towards helping readers understand the context surrounding and directly impacting her campaign.
He argued that 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries covers this opposition topic. However, it is nothing more than a mere list of people who have declared or are suspected to declare, with some polling and debate information. It lacks any relation to the substantial role oppositional relationships play in the development of the primary campaigns and, eventually, the primaries themselves.
My proposed section does exactly that, with a specific focus on Haley. Again, a huge motivating factor in the development of both Haley's campaign and the primary race is the relation and interaction between the candidates. So you are right when you say "This is Nikki Haley's campaign." and this is her article. My section belongs here as an informative segment of a catalog of her campaign. A key undercurrent of that campaign are things like attacks on other candidates, polling, and methods Haley uses to distinguish herself from other candidates; all of which my section covered. These are key undercurrents to her race because they matter to the campaign, are highly calculated, and speak to the strength, intention, description of Haley, her message, her reception, media coverage, and–ultimately–her campaign itself.
The key takeaway here is that Nikki Haley's campaign and its actions have been and will continue to be directly impacted by the opposition in the race. Therefore, my proposed section–highlighting a limited number of key statements from Haley and from others about Haley–provides educational, objective, and necessary information to readers.
I understand his concern about including content that may be tangental to Haley's campaign. I'm sure there is room for tailoring the section to ensure that each line is directly referencing all of the elements I've mentioned. But scrapping the whole section does not serve the Wikimedia mission statement to collect and develop education content.
For all these reasons, I think it is clear that the opposition section is relevant and deserving of inclusion on this article.
Moonlightlenook (
talk) 18:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 January 2024 and 15 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jordansheer ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Jordansheer ( talk) 15:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)