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"When Jessica surfaces, the transformation is instantaneous and almost unnoticeable..." I find the centre of Ali Larter's lip tends to rise slightly when she portrays Jessica. Is there any evidence for this? Is it just me? -- 82.152.177.208 ( talk) 20:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed with many of my friends that Nikki's hair changed when she became Jessica. It is actually very noticeable if you pay attention. brkndrmr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.153.156 ( talk) 03:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think they need to be deleted, but perhaps moving them into the synopsis for Volume 1 would be better?-- 75.71.68.254 ( talk) 22:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
An anon edit brought up a good point: is Jessica Nikki's twin or just a sister? I don't know if it's ever addressed in the show so I think it's just a sister. If I'm wrong please let me know. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
If anyone wants to look at Marvel lore. Check out Multiple Man. Apply that concept to Niki/Tracy. I have a feeling that there's 'Niki-copies' EVERYWHERE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.79.128.194 ( talk) 05:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Can we ascertain that Tracy was surprized by what she had done to the reporter? She looked pretty well freaked out. Also, are we discussing Tracy here or have we created a new article? padillaH ( review me)( help me) 04:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
She didn't freeze the reporter, she transmuted him into ice. -- Gordon Ecker ( talk) 06:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to Season 3, Episode 3, I think that we can confirm that her ability is in fact to freeze. When she tests her powers by freezing a rose, it clearly retains its previous colourings (albeit, covered in ice). One of the petals snap and you can clearly see the internal colouring.-- 203.208.115.30 ( talk) 12:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
As it is currently unknown whether Tracy is another alternate personality or a separate person who resembles Niki, should she get an article of her own? She's apparently got her own power, which a simple alternate personality wouldn't have, suggesting she's a different character (long lost twin sister, possibly?). It could be merged back in if it does turn out she's somehow Niki. Wanderer32 ( talk) 07:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a thought, but depending how this "clone" arc goes, perhaps moving all the Niki "clones" to one article would be the best move? ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 10:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
It's hard to know what would be "consistent" for a super-strong superhuman. For all we know, her skin may well be super-strength as well, and may have not been damaged by the flames. For all we know, she could have suffocated (which is likely). Or you could be right. Or (which is most likely), it's a inconsistency with the show itself, not trying to indicate anything. Basically, unless something substantial in the show or in an interview arises, it shouldn't be treated as anything special. ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 08:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes she should —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.109.234 ( talk) 00:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
While I think Tracy will be important enough eventually, I don't think she's got enough history yet. Let's put her in the List of Heroes characters with special abilities and build until we get an articles worth of content. Padillah ( talk) 12:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
TRACY STRAUSS has now been revealed to be a separate character from Nikki. (as proven by Episode 4 of season 3) She must be given her own page.
An article for "Stacy Straus" will fail notability outside the TV series and will have to be deleted. Unless they are trusted third party sources, references and real world information such that to give the character notability. Then, an article can be created. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 14:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Looking over the discussion, I'm not really seeing any opposition to moving Tracy and Barbara to List of characters in Heroes. Should we go ahead and do this? - Josh ( talk | contribs) 16:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I think she should get her own page. She's become important enough especially since she's started a relationship with Nathan and that she's seen four years in the future.
Over at
List of Heroes characters with special abilities there is a
discussion of whether the German is related to Niki/Tracy or not. Please discuss. ~
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There is a book titled Barcode tattoo and it is about this woman who was cloned 6 times and each time the clone was injected with a formula that gave each a special ability. I think that could have something to do with whats going on. I think that formula that gives powers was tested on clones of a past figure that resembeled Tracy/Niki/Jessica —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.245.248 ( talk) 00:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Considering Dr. Zimmerman says he created "Niki, Barbara and Tracy", does that mean Jessica wasn't real? Looking back at episodes, it could well be that Jessica was a false identity Niki used to protect herself (by making "Jessica" the victim, Niki could forget it ever happened). I can't remember ever seeing any proof Jessica existed other than by what Niki said. Jacobshaven3 ( talk) 20:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, the section containing the list of Jessica's murders has become pointless and should be removed. Her murders aren't that important on the show, and the information can be found within the biography section. Ophois ( talk) 07:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we move the article to Niki Sanders & Tracy Strauss or Niki, Tracy & Barbara or something like that at least, to reflect the actual content?-- Whadaheck ( talk) 22:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The article simply says "Niki was shown to be dead" in season 3. It would be nice if someone could provide at least a little bit of detail as to how she died. 204.97.183.31 ( talk) 18:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
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"When Jessica surfaces, the transformation is instantaneous and almost unnoticeable..." I find the centre of Ali Larter's lip tends to rise slightly when she portrays Jessica. Is there any evidence for this? Is it just me? -- 82.152.177.208 ( talk) 20:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed with many of my friends that Nikki's hair changed when she became Jessica. It is actually very noticeable if you pay attention. brkndrmr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.153.156 ( talk) 03:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think they need to be deleted, but perhaps moving them into the synopsis for Volume 1 would be better?-- 75.71.68.254 ( talk) 22:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
An anon edit brought up a good point: is Jessica Nikki's twin or just a sister? I don't know if it's ever addressed in the show so I think it's just a sister. If I'm wrong please let me know. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
If anyone wants to look at Marvel lore. Check out Multiple Man. Apply that concept to Niki/Tracy. I have a feeling that there's 'Niki-copies' EVERYWHERE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.79.128.194 ( talk) 05:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Can we ascertain that Tracy was surprized by what she had done to the reporter? She looked pretty well freaked out. Also, are we discussing Tracy here or have we created a new article? padillaH ( review me)( help me) 04:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
She didn't freeze the reporter, she transmuted him into ice. -- Gordon Ecker ( talk) 06:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to Season 3, Episode 3, I think that we can confirm that her ability is in fact to freeze. When she tests her powers by freezing a rose, it clearly retains its previous colourings (albeit, covered in ice). One of the petals snap and you can clearly see the internal colouring.-- 203.208.115.30 ( talk) 12:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
As it is currently unknown whether Tracy is another alternate personality or a separate person who resembles Niki, should she get an article of her own? She's apparently got her own power, which a simple alternate personality wouldn't have, suggesting she's a different character (long lost twin sister, possibly?). It could be merged back in if it does turn out she's somehow Niki. Wanderer32 ( talk) 07:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a thought, but depending how this "clone" arc goes, perhaps moving all the Niki "clones" to one article would be the best move? ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 10:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
It's hard to know what would be "consistent" for a super-strong superhuman. For all we know, her skin may well be super-strength as well, and may have not been damaged by the flames. For all we know, she could have suffocated (which is likely). Or you could be right. Or (which is most likely), it's a inconsistency with the show itself, not trying to indicate anything. Basically, unless something substantial in the show or in an interview arises, it shouldn't be treated as anything special. ~ QuasiAbstract { talk/ contrib} 08:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes she should —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.109.234 ( talk) 00:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
While I think Tracy will be important enough eventually, I don't think she's got enough history yet. Let's put her in the List of Heroes characters with special abilities and build until we get an articles worth of content. Padillah ( talk) 12:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
TRACY STRAUSS has now been revealed to be a separate character from Nikki. (as proven by Episode 4 of season 3) She must be given her own page.
An article for "Stacy Straus" will fail notability outside the TV series and will have to be deleted. Unless they are trusted third party sources, references and real world information such that to give the character notability. Then, an article can be created. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 14:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Looking over the discussion, I'm not really seeing any opposition to moving Tracy and Barbara to List of characters in Heroes. Should we go ahead and do this? - Josh ( talk | contribs) 16:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I think she should get her own page. She's become important enough especially since she's started a relationship with Nathan and that she's seen four years in the future.
Over at
List of Heroes characters with special abilities there is a
discussion of whether the German is related to Niki/Tracy or not. Please discuss. ~
Auzemandius {
talk/
contrib}
12:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
There is a book titled Barcode tattoo and it is about this woman who was cloned 6 times and each time the clone was injected with a formula that gave each a special ability. I think that could have something to do with whats going on. I think that formula that gives powers was tested on clones of a past figure that resembeled Tracy/Niki/Jessica —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.245.248 ( talk) 00:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Considering Dr. Zimmerman says he created "Niki, Barbara and Tracy", does that mean Jessica wasn't real? Looking back at episodes, it could well be that Jessica was a false identity Niki used to protect herself (by making "Jessica" the victim, Niki could forget it ever happened). I can't remember ever seeing any proof Jessica existed other than by what Niki said. Jacobshaven3 ( talk) 20:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, the section containing the list of Jessica's murders has become pointless and should be removed. Her murders aren't that important on the show, and the information can be found within the biography section. Ophois ( talk) 07:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we move the article to Niki Sanders & Tracy Strauss or Niki, Tracy & Barbara or something like that at least, to reflect the actual content?-- Whadaheck ( talk) 22:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The article simply says "Niki was shown to be dead" in season 3. It would be nice if someone could provide at least a little bit of detail as to how she died. 204.97.183.31 ( talk) 18:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
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