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What happened to the screenshot? That was gorgeous, (and, yes, helped "illustrate" exactly what Nightline is!).
Admins suddenly got real AR about them and deleted a bunch of them. I think I might be able to find another one somewhere though.
Cs9201:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)reply
"Shortened to 25 mins"
say whu?? this never happened!
was it really SUPPOSED to happen? did it happen BRIEFLY, then get undone a la new coke?
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Not the most internationally used disambiguation of 'Nightline'
Also not the oldest cited reference to usage of 'Nightline'
I'm a little confused about what you're planning to move where. Are you suggesting Nightline should go straight to disambig page instead of the ABC show? Or that one of the other Nightline articles should be moved to just 'Nightline'?
Eve Hall (
talk)
22:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Oppose there is more than one TV show called Nightline, so moving it to another ambiguous title solves no problems. No evidence is provided that the student Nightline is primary meaning in English, over the US TV show, or a dab page.
70.55.85.177 (
talk)
07:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Redirect Nightline->dab - For a very hand-wavy guide to relative notability, the first ten results come up from a google.com search for 'Nightline -Wikipedia':
ABC News site
National NL (Umbrella body for student service)
Private company
Blog with video from ABC
London University NL
IMDB page for ABC NL
MIT University NL
Private company
Private company
I make that ABC three, students three. In general, I'm not sure there's enough to justify the student service being the main page, but I think maybe 'Nightline' should redirect to the disambiguation page, since other uses are probably common enough to mean ABC news isn't an automatic choice for
primary usage.
Eve Hall (
talk)
11:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Approve On the other hand (and in interest of fairness to above contributers, if the same search is made at Google.co.uk, ('Nightline -Wikipedia) the top 10 are as follows:
National NL (Umbrella body for student service)
London University NL
ABC News Site
Private Company
Durham University NL
Oxford University NL
Leeds University NL
Bristol University NL
Edinburgh University NL
Leeds University NL
Which makes (at least from a UK target audience) ABC one, students Eight - an overwhelming majority from this audience..
Sorry, but that is one of the two proposed moves being discussed and it clearly needs to be rejected. Clearly that is not the primary topic. If there is a primary topic is an additional discussion.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
07:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I think that you've probably hit the nail on the head. I would not argue that from any U.S. resident that the ABC show would be what was in mind when searching. This is (as fairly keenly illustrated by the Google searches above) not particually the case outside the U.S. although I wouldn't suggest that there was at this time any stronger a case for any other Primary usage, I can't imagine any of the uses in disambigation are any stronger contenders. I would support the move to redirect
Nightline →
Nightline (disambiguation)137.73.88.101 (
talk)
18:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm not entirely sure what you are opposing. it appears that the point you are making here is largely academic rather than anything else.. can you confirm?
137.73.88.101 (
talk)
09:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
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What happened to the screenshot? That was gorgeous, (and, yes, helped "illustrate" exactly what Nightline is!).
Admins suddenly got real AR about them and deleted a bunch of them. I think I might be able to find another one somewhere though.
Cs9201:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)reply
"Shortened to 25 mins"
say whu?? this never happened!
was it really SUPPOSED to happen? did it happen BRIEFLY, then get undone a la new coke?
The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Not the most internationally used disambiguation of 'Nightline'
Also not the oldest cited reference to usage of 'Nightline'
I'm a little confused about what you're planning to move where. Are you suggesting Nightline should go straight to disambig page instead of the ABC show? Or that one of the other Nightline articles should be moved to just 'Nightline'?
Eve Hall (
talk)
22:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Oppose there is more than one TV show called Nightline, so moving it to another ambiguous title solves no problems. No evidence is provided that the student Nightline is primary meaning in English, over the US TV show, or a dab page.
70.55.85.177 (
talk)
07:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Redirect Nightline->dab - For a very hand-wavy guide to relative notability, the first ten results come up from a google.com search for 'Nightline -Wikipedia':
ABC News site
National NL (Umbrella body for student service)
Private company
Blog with video from ABC
London University NL
IMDB page for ABC NL
MIT University NL
Private company
Private company
I make that ABC three, students three. In general, I'm not sure there's enough to justify the student service being the main page, but I think maybe 'Nightline' should redirect to the disambiguation page, since other uses are probably common enough to mean ABC news isn't an automatic choice for
primary usage.
Eve Hall (
talk)
11:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Approve On the other hand (and in interest of fairness to above contributers, if the same search is made at Google.co.uk, ('Nightline -Wikipedia) the top 10 are as follows:
National NL (Umbrella body for student service)
London University NL
ABC News Site
Private Company
Durham University NL
Oxford University NL
Leeds University NL
Bristol University NL
Edinburgh University NL
Leeds University NL
Which makes (at least from a UK target audience) ABC one, students Eight - an overwhelming majority from this audience..
Sorry, but that is one of the two proposed moves being discussed and it clearly needs to be rejected. Clearly that is not the primary topic. If there is a primary topic is an additional discussion.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
07:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I think that you've probably hit the nail on the head. I would not argue that from any U.S. resident that the ABC show would be what was in mind when searching. This is (as fairly keenly illustrated by the Google searches above) not particually the case outside the U.S. although I wouldn't suggest that there was at this time any stronger a case for any other Primary usage, I can't imagine any of the uses in disambigation are any stronger contenders. I would support the move to redirect
Nightline →
Nightline (disambiguation)137.73.88.101 (
talk)
18:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm not entirely sure what you are opposing. it appears that the point you are making here is largely academic rather than anything else.. can you confirm?
137.73.88.101 (
talk)
09:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
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