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This article is proof that people now confuse number of youtube views and clicks with relevance. There are tons of scientific topics with smaller articles than her. All hope in humanity lost? In my opinion this article should be hugely reduced or even deleted. - Guest User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.150.27.127 ( talk) 21:30, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
There are 2 different Birthyears in the article. Once it says 1982, but twice it says 1985. What is correct? -- NASCARaddicted ( talk) 00:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I went to high school with her. She was born in 1982. Graduated same year. She's 33.( 24.36.249.63 ( talk) 17:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC))
It's obvious to be me that she was actually born in 1982. This article from her college: Humber College:
[3], states that she graduated college in 2003. If she were born in 1985 she would have been 18 when she graduated college, which is essentially impossible in Canada. It's clear her PR team is trying to lie about her age to make her appear younger than she is. — Preceding
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Who was it who actually said she's the "World's Sexiest Comedian"? -- Scar † Contributions † 06:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
it was playboys website
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This is written by what appears to be a very biased source and contains many claims which remain without citation. Also, there are bizarre errors in spelling, such as "up-dated"
Almost the entire advertisement section is written like a self congratulating biography, and one without sources. An example (this doesn't have a source linked to it)
In 2005, Nike Canada brought Arbour on board to be spokesperson and part of the writing team for the RUN TO 10k event on Centre Island in Toronto. This campaign was the largest advertising and run initiative in Nike Canada's history, with over 25,000 participants in the run, and featured Arbour's one liners pitting each Toronto neighborhood against each other to find out, "Who Runs This Town?" on apparel, print, radio, and live events such as Toronto Blue Jays games. During an early season Blue Jays game against the Washington Nationals, Arbour burst onto the field and led the crowd in her version of the seventh inning stretch. 74.132.66.103 ( talk) 20:55, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I came to this page and was surprised by how little information it contained. I also noticed that the word "critiques" was used instead of "critics". That's when I realized that the page is locked. I understand that it might be a bit of a war zone here if it were to be unlocked, but the capabilities of Wikipedia are diminished when barriers are put up deterring people from editing rather than enabling them to generate a fully fleshed out page.
I think unlocking this page should be seriously considered. Or at least changing "critiques" to "critics". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djpeirano ( talk • contribs) 17:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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On the Wikipedia page it is stated that Nicole Arbour has not replied to her abuse accusations: "However, no accusation has been confirmed, nor denied, as Arbour has not yet responded to these allegations. [9]" Nicole Arbour recently did an interview with Lauren Southern at the Libertarian Republic denying the allegations and giving a story of her own as seen here: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-cant-we-just-laugh-at-fat-people-anymore-without-this-happening/
Thank you for your time.
Karigan1 ( talk) 04:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
In all honesty and fairness, should we include a little table or information about Nicole Arbour's Shorty Awards nomination? Even though I'm reluctant to say it was for best 'Comedian' or 'YouTube Comedian' (which myself does not believe so but...), she did get nominated for something and sure enough achievements and nominations appear on other biographical articles of YouTubers and others. It's good enough she didn't get this award, but a nomination is a nomination. Adog104 ( talk) 01:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Adog104
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Please delete Nicole Arbour's wiki page because we cannot continue to give her attention due to her video. You heightened her image and ego by a wiki page existing in her honor. Therefore, I wish for this page to be deleted because she will, eventually, be yesterday's news. Or material will diminish. Also, she is not a good person and is lower than underwater volcanoes. Thank you. Flordamachine ( talk) 05:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I would like to see this page updated with more information on her other videos especially the one about refugees. Because 1) I can't understand what she is saying 2) She is become more famous/notorious, so therefore more information is needed about her 3) If you have pages about Adolph Hitler, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin, someone who is just an obnoxious comedian should be included, too.
I'd also like to see what VIPs have to say about her videos, not just Wiki protestors.
Thanks,
Ed S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD9B:E9A0:1D4C:84DA:FD6A:D68C ( talk) 14:21, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
This section is already outdated and inaccurate. Why is this even notable enough to be listed? But if you want to include it, the video was quickly reinstated, and is not still removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.92.18.113 ( talk) 21:28, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Also within the query of her youtube controversy, it should be noted there was a serious question raised as to whether she had in fact set simply set her account to private in the wake of 1000's of negative comments. In fact, turns out Youtube shut her page down "accidentally" (not purposeful censoring as she claimed). She had however, disabled all the comments section on her YouTube page, explaining "It's not because I'm scared of what you guys say, It's because I don't give a fuck." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8003:dc03:166:ed77:dcb0:af42 ( talk • contribs) 00:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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I think that comedian should be changed to self-proclaimed comedian. She does not have a job as a comedian currently, and is not really funny. Brysonshier ( talk) 21:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
She is not currently a comedian, and is considered a meta-comedian. Unlock this page so it can reflect that. Who put you in charge? Error2233 ( talk) 23:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Sources havent described her a comedian in years. According to canadian hate speech laws what she does is not comedy. Open the page. We are not vandals, if anything you are arbitrarily denying access to a public page.. You are the vandal. Error2233 ( talk) 19:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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I am Nicole Arbour's publicist and would like the alleged Domestic Abuse paragraph REMOVED ASAP - none of this has been proven in a court of law and is FALSE information from an ex partner.
The information is harmful to my client.
Thank you.
2605:E000:99DD:1900:E04A:E359:6F09:A72F ( talk) 18:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
According the the lede this person is an "actress, choreographer, comedian, dancer, musician, singer and writer".
I'm wondering if there is any actual evidence that Nicole Arbour is or has been all of these things at a professional level? It's implicit in the sentence that she is more than an amateur, and I'm not aware of her being published in any meaningful sense, nor can I find any evidence that she has done any choreography at the professional level? Frankly the majority of sources that state she's these things are likely using Wikipedia as their source. 124.149.139.138 ( talk) 11:56, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE7faqz-mqjbUa4UaMZGAvw I could not find the link in the artice. Andries ( talk) 19:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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Domestic abuse allegations subsections has almost certainly been glossed over:
Also requires the ability to edit for new controversies e.g. Childish Gambino - "This is America" parody. Ta16969 ( talk) 16:27, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Some of the new information on the page seems pretty biased. Under the domestic abuse controversy, there has been an addition that the victim of the alleged abuse, Matthew Santoro, has publically admitted to having mental health issues? This seems like an attempt to discredit Santoro in an attempt to bolster her public image. In addition to this, the claim that she has 700,000,000 views is only supported by her twitter page as a source. According to Social Blade, she only has 35,0000,000 on youtube, the rest seems to come from Facebook, which is a flawed source. Facebook videos count views if someone happens to scroll by the video as opposed to watching the entire thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BismillahFigaro ( talk • contribs) 08:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Arbour has recently been in the news for a controversy around Childish Gambino's single; 'This is America' by attempting to create a version herself. This did not go down well and was covered by many news outlets, probably worth adding here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisisamericaa ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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Agree. 'Self-proclaimed' seems more accurate as her paid nightclub appearances seem to be based on her youtube-personality rather than hired-as-a-comedian. Evidence of recent comedy shows seem to be non existent? Thisisamericaa ( talk) 12:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Here are a few things to discuss and establish here that are needed:
Any other concerns please add here. Thank You! Adog104 ( talk) 00:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)Adog104
Do any of you think this article, or Matthew Santoro's for that matter, should make any mention of her relationship with him, and Rob Dyke's testimony that she mentally abused him? Here's a source from DramaAlert.
-- 24.79.103.70 ( talk) 04:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
The end of this section ends in "Santoro has since removed this video, and in 2018 publicly claimed he suffers from mental health issues.[41]"
The "in 2018 ... mental health issues" part looks a lot like weasel words to me. It is not appropriate to connect these two facts. If Matthew Santoro had retracted the claims and blamed them on his mental health, then it would be relevant. However, this does not appear to be the case. Correlating the allegations with Santoro's mental health is not relevant to the fact that he alleges Arbour assaulted him.
It appears to be weasel words to undermine his credibility. There's no good reason to have included such a statement.
-- 89.133.139.132 ( talk) 08:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC) Raphael K.
According to her Instagram, today is her 40th birthday. Not sure what the criteria is in terms of wikipedia using the subject's own social media to validate biographical information such as birthdate though. I don't see any reason why she would lie about that, and she did address the fact her age online has differentiated between sources over the years. 24.156.179.25 ( talk) 00:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
@ DMacks Thank you for finding a secondary source relating to that claim. Isn't using self published sources for contentious political views (rather than relying on secondary sources) in BLPs potentially quite problematic, since that could allow people to pick whichever statements they wished to portray the subject however they wanted? There could also be issues with satire, sarcasm, statements which people don't really mean etc. which means self published sources should only be used for uncontentious claims, and for anything contentious secondary sources should be used. That approach seems the most in keeping with the spirit of WP:BLP and WP:SPS to me. Tristario ( talk) 10:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Didn't she write a book? She mentioned it in her Glenn Beck interview 70.26.26.188 ( talk) 18:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Shoudn't her middle name be included? 70.26.26.75 ( talk) 03:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Is it possible to delete this page all together? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.184.181 ( talk • contribs) 15:23, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
While I would love to see this go, she at this point clearly satisfies the GNG and this would survive any attempt at deletion so all the spurious side arguments are pointless. Ridernyc ( talk) 03:21, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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This article is proof that people now confuse number of youtube views and clicks with relevance. There are tons of scientific topics with smaller articles than her. All hope in humanity lost? In my opinion this article should be hugely reduced or even deleted. - Guest User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.150.27.127 ( talk) 21:30, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
There are 2 different Birthyears in the article. Once it says 1982, but twice it says 1985. What is correct? -- NASCARaddicted ( talk) 00:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I went to high school with her. She was born in 1982. Graduated same year. She's 33.( 24.36.249.63 ( talk) 17:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC))
It's obvious to be me that she was actually born in 1982. This article from her college: Humber College:
[3], states that she graduated college in 2003. If she were born in 1985 she would have been 18 when she graduated college, which is essentially impossible in Canada. It's clear her PR team is trying to lie about her age to make her appear younger than she is. — Preceding
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Who was it who actually said she's the "World's Sexiest Comedian"? -- Scar † Contributions † 06:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
it was playboys website
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This is written by what appears to be a very biased source and contains many claims which remain without citation. Also, there are bizarre errors in spelling, such as "up-dated"
Almost the entire advertisement section is written like a self congratulating biography, and one without sources. An example (this doesn't have a source linked to it)
In 2005, Nike Canada brought Arbour on board to be spokesperson and part of the writing team for the RUN TO 10k event on Centre Island in Toronto. This campaign was the largest advertising and run initiative in Nike Canada's history, with over 25,000 participants in the run, and featured Arbour's one liners pitting each Toronto neighborhood against each other to find out, "Who Runs This Town?" on apparel, print, radio, and live events such as Toronto Blue Jays games. During an early season Blue Jays game against the Washington Nationals, Arbour burst onto the field and led the crowd in her version of the seventh inning stretch. 74.132.66.103 ( talk) 20:55, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I came to this page and was surprised by how little information it contained. I also noticed that the word "critiques" was used instead of "critics". That's when I realized that the page is locked. I understand that it might be a bit of a war zone here if it were to be unlocked, but the capabilities of Wikipedia are diminished when barriers are put up deterring people from editing rather than enabling them to generate a fully fleshed out page.
I think unlocking this page should be seriously considered. Or at least changing "critiques" to "critics". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djpeirano ( talk • contribs) 17:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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On the Wikipedia page it is stated that Nicole Arbour has not replied to her abuse accusations: "However, no accusation has been confirmed, nor denied, as Arbour has not yet responded to these allegations. [9]" Nicole Arbour recently did an interview with Lauren Southern at the Libertarian Republic denying the allegations and giving a story of her own as seen here: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-cant-we-just-laugh-at-fat-people-anymore-without-this-happening/
Thank you for your time.
Karigan1 ( talk) 04:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
In all honesty and fairness, should we include a little table or information about Nicole Arbour's Shorty Awards nomination? Even though I'm reluctant to say it was for best 'Comedian' or 'YouTube Comedian' (which myself does not believe so but...), she did get nominated for something and sure enough achievements and nominations appear on other biographical articles of YouTubers and others. It's good enough she didn't get this award, but a nomination is a nomination. Adog104 ( talk) 01:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Adog104
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Please delete Nicole Arbour's wiki page because we cannot continue to give her attention due to her video. You heightened her image and ego by a wiki page existing in her honor. Therefore, I wish for this page to be deleted because she will, eventually, be yesterday's news. Or material will diminish. Also, she is not a good person and is lower than underwater volcanoes. Thank you. Flordamachine ( talk) 05:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I would like to see this page updated with more information on her other videos especially the one about refugees. Because 1) I can't understand what she is saying 2) She is become more famous/notorious, so therefore more information is needed about her 3) If you have pages about Adolph Hitler, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin, someone who is just an obnoxious comedian should be included, too.
I'd also like to see what VIPs have to say about her videos, not just Wiki protestors.
Thanks,
Ed S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD9B:E9A0:1D4C:84DA:FD6A:D68C ( talk) 14:21, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
This section is already outdated and inaccurate. Why is this even notable enough to be listed? But if you want to include it, the video was quickly reinstated, and is not still removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.92.18.113 ( talk) 21:28, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Also within the query of her youtube controversy, it should be noted there was a serious question raised as to whether she had in fact set simply set her account to private in the wake of 1000's of negative comments. In fact, turns out Youtube shut her page down "accidentally" (not purposeful censoring as she claimed). She had however, disabled all the comments section on her YouTube page, explaining "It's not because I'm scared of what you guys say, It's because I don't give a fuck." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8003:dc03:166:ed77:dcb0:af42 ( talk • contribs) 00:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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I think that comedian should be changed to self-proclaimed comedian. She does not have a job as a comedian currently, and is not really funny. Brysonshier ( talk) 21:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
She is not currently a comedian, and is considered a meta-comedian. Unlock this page so it can reflect that. Who put you in charge? Error2233 ( talk) 23:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Sources havent described her a comedian in years. According to canadian hate speech laws what she does is not comedy. Open the page. We are not vandals, if anything you are arbitrarily denying access to a public page.. You are the vandal. Error2233 ( talk) 19:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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I am Nicole Arbour's publicist and would like the alleged Domestic Abuse paragraph REMOVED ASAP - none of this has been proven in a court of law and is FALSE information from an ex partner.
The information is harmful to my client.
Thank you.
2605:E000:99DD:1900:E04A:E359:6F09:A72F ( talk) 18:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
According the the lede this person is an "actress, choreographer, comedian, dancer, musician, singer and writer".
I'm wondering if there is any actual evidence that Nicole Arbour is or has been all of these things at a professional level? It's implicit in the sentence that she is more than an amateur, and I'm not aware of her being published in any meaningful sense, nor can I find any evidence that she has done any choreography at the professional level? Frankly the majority of sources that state she's these things are likely using Wikipedia as their source. 124.149.139.138 ( talk) 11:56, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE7faqz-mqjbUa4UaMZGAvw I could not find the link in the artice. Andries ( talk) 19:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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Domestic abuse allegations subsections has almost certainly been glossed over:
Also requires the ability to edit for new controversies e.g. Childish Gambino - "This is America" parody. Ta16969 ( talk) 16:27, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Some of the new information on the page seems pretty biased. Under the domestic abuse controversy, there has been an addition that the victim of the alleged abuse, Matthew Santoro, has publically admitted to having mental health issues? This seems like an attempt to discredit Santoro in an attempt to bolster her public image. In addition to this, the claim that she has 700,000,000 views is only supported by her twitter page as a source. According to Social Blade, she only has 35,0000,000 on youtube, the rest seems to come from Facebook, which is a flawed source. Facebook videos count views if someone happens to scroll by the video as opposed to watching the entire thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BismillahFigaro ( talk • contribs) 08:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Arbour has recently been in the news for a controversy around Childish Gambino's single; 'This is America' by attempting to create a version herself. This did not go down well and was covered by many news outlets, probably worth adding here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisisamericaa ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.184.98.235 ( talk) 10:52, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Agree. 'Self-proclaimed' seems more accurate as her paid nightclub appearances seem to be based on her youtube-personality rather than hired-as-a-comedian. Evidence of recent comedy shows seem to be non existent? Thisisamericaa ( talk) 12:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Here are a few things to discuss and establish here that are needed:
Any other concerns please add here. Thank You! Adog104 ( talk) 00:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)Adog104
Do any of you think this article, or Matthew Santoro's for that matter, should make any mention of her relationship with him, and Rob Dyke's testimony that she mentally abused him? Here's a source from DramaAlert.
-- 24.79.103.70 ( talk) 04:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
The end of this section ends in "Santoro has since removed this video, and in 2018 publicly claimed he suffers from mental health issues.[41]"
The "in 2018 ... mental health issues" part looks a lot like weasel words to me. It is not appropriate to connect these two facts. If Matthew Santoro had retracted the claims and blamed them on his mental health, then it would be relevant. However, this does not appear to be the case. Correlating the allegations with Santoro's mental health is not relevant to the fact that he alleges Arbour assaulted him.
It appears to be weasel words to undermine his credibility. There's no good reason to have included such a statement.
-- 89.133.139.132 ( talk) 08:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC) Raphael K.
According to her Instagram, today is her 40th birthday. Not sure what the criteria is in terms of wikipedia using the subject's own social media to validate biographical information such as birthdate though. I don't see any reason why she would lie about that, and she did address the fact her age online has differentiated between sources over the years. 24.156.179.25 ( talk) 00:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
@ DMacks Thank you for finding a secondary source relating to that claim. Isn't using self published sources for contentious political views (rather than relying on secondary sources) in BLPs potentially quite problematic, since that could allow people to pick whichever statements they wished to portray the subject however they wanted? There could also be issues with satire, sarcasm, statements which people don't really mean etc. which means self published sources should only be used for uncontentious claims, and for anything contentious secondary sources should be used. That approach seems the most in keeping with the spirit of WP:BLP and WP:SPS to me. Tristario ( talk) 10:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Didn't she write a book? She mentioned it in her Glenn Beck interview 70.26.26.188 ( talk) 18:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Shoudn't her middle name be included? 70.26.26.75 ( talk) 03:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Is it possible to delete this page all together? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.184.181 ( talk • contribs) 15:23, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
While I would love to see this go, she at this point clearly satisfies the GNG and this would survive any attempt at deletion so all the spurious side arguments are pointless. Ridernyc ( talk) 03:21, 12 September 2015 (UTC)