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I have archived the discussion as was suggested by a number of users, while there may be some information that isnt relevant to or the result of recent events I think its best to start all discussion fresh. Gnan garra 01:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Gnan's revert and believe this cat should remain off the article per previous discussions. Roxon's paternal grandparents are jewish, I do not believe this should make her eligible for the cat. Infact I am against the cat altogether as it's too ambiguous, I would not want my grandparents religion/heritage to be declared my descent. Timeshift ( talk) 01:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Roxon made headlines during the 2007 federal election campaign when, on 31 October 2007, Health Minister Tony Abbott arrived half an hour late for a televised debate. After apologising on behalf of the absent party to the audience of media and health industry figures, Ms Roxon had the debate to herself and made light of the situation by stating that her staff felt she did a good impersonation of Abbott and could play his part. When Abbott did arrive, he swore at her when she said he could have been on time if he had wanted to. [1] [2]
Is this really notable? It seems a bit unencyclopedic to me. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree it should be toned down. 2 verses 1 so am editing.
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there is nothing in this article about Roxon post 2007...surely this is the most important of her political career as a minister? LibStar ( talk) 09:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I think this is very notable. She is the only real public atheist in australian politics and it is important to her. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 12:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I disagree, only three Australian politicians publicly came out and endorsed atheism. That is notable, or just as notable as the confrontation with Abbott. She is in the public debate as one of three politicians advocating atheism. Looking at Abbott and Catholicism, I think this deserves an entry. I am not sure, but looking at the edit history you have banned a lot of users who edited this page. I'm concerned as in my experience I am simply a new user. Maybe it is best to get another opinion. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 03:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Your comment is not constructive. I'd appreciate constructive comments please. Banning legitimate users, insulting 'newbies', calling people 'socks' when they are not...please be constructive. She was one of three politicians to advocate atheism. Considering the wiki article for Abbott has mention of his catholicism; these three individuals should have a line about atheism. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 08:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I started adding sourced material on this site with the intention of adding to other ones. I was then banned for no reason whatsoever. I am concerned that one user is maintaining this site and getting rid of other opinions. I have every right to edit this page. It seems every comment here is against 'newbie's editing.
I disagree, considering the text discusses the fact she was a jewish refugee family it is appropriate that her religion is mentioned at least once. It is accurate and sourced. This is the same for another site so it should be the same for this one. As far as I can see, there is no new information since 2007. Looking at the history, it seems that all entries were reverted since then. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 06:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Her religion is mentioned at least once. The infobox states that she is an atheist and it is sourced. There is nothing more to add. That source was the press trying to get politicians to state that they were atheist after the World Atheists Convention. Nicola Roxon, along with others, so stated, but I know of no other sources that could allow us to expand on her views. -- Bduke (Discussion) 07:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
added atheism as per Greg Combet et. al. It's very rare to see atheists as mp's so it is notable ur personal experiences are not sufficient to remove. 202.174.225.208 ( talk) 02:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
source asked all. she is only one of three in parliament who pub. say atheist. so she is only one of 3 pub. atheists. is same for all wiki entries. There is no problem for the other three only this one. reading through seems harsh edit war. good faith is asked for. 202.174.225.208 ( talk) 03:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Rebecca please explain your revision in the discussion. On wiki atheism is categorised as a valid entry for the religion section.
Incogfrig (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
13:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC).
Well, the category is for the individual's religion. She is an atheist. The categories are there to guide the encyclopaedia to provide information to the public. This allows people to reference categories. Particularly relevant in politics. Among a number of things is to allow people to do searches. I found this entry because of listening to the radio and there is a religion in politics debate. I wanted to know who is an atheist in the debate and who is religious. Also Euthanasia is a big issue and as health minister it is good to know what religion she is. It only adds to the encyclopaedia not detracting from it. Look at the entries for politics around the world. Religion is a big thing in Australian politics. Incogfrig ( talk)
You are being very rude to me for my first ever entry. That is not very nice considering I added information that is present for many other politics on the encyclopaedia. Incogfrig ( talk) 13:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
What are you on about? You are being very rude and not explaining why my comment was wrong? A heap of similar pages list atheist??
Incogfrig (
talk)
14:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
(outdent) Excluding the socks, it seems the consensus is that listing "Atheist" as this person's religion both lacks WP:RS and WP:NOTE. Am I mistaken? I'm rv'ing a recent change adding that appellation back to the infobox. JoeSperrazza ( talk)
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Nicola Roxon announced her resignation on 2 February (Australian time) not 1 February. The link to the date used as the source for the entry will confirm this! Cyberia 15 ( talk) 00:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
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I have archived the discussion as was suggested by a number of users, while there may be some information that isnt relevant to or the result of recent events I think its best to start all discussion fresh. Gnan garra 01:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Gnan's revert and believe this cat should remain off the article per previous discussions. Roxon's paternal grandparents are jewish, I do not believe this should make her eligible for the cat. Infact I am against the cat altogether as it's too ambiguous, I would not want my grandparents religion/heritage to be declared my descent. Timeshift ( talk) 01:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Roxon made headlines during the 2007 federal election campaign when, on 31 October 2007, Health Minister Tony Abbott arrived half an hour late for a televised debate. After apologising on behalf of the absent party to the audience of media and health industry figures, Ms Roxon had the debate to herself and made light of the situation by stating that her staff felt she did a good impersonation of Abbott and could play his part. When Abbott did arrive, he swore at her when she said he could have been on time if he had wanted to. [1] [2]
Is this really notable? It seems a bit unencyclopedic to me. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree it should be toned down. 2 verses 1 so am editing.
Timeshifl (
talk)
13:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
References
there is nothing in this article about Roxon post 2007...surely this is the most important of her political career as a minister? LibStar ( talk) 09:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I think this is very notable. She is the only real public atheist in australian politics and it is important to her. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 12:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I disagree, only three Australian politicians publicly came out and endorsed atheism. That is notable, or just as notable as the confrontation with Abbott. She is in the public debate as one of three politicians advocating atheism. Looking at Abbott and Catholicism, I think this deserves an entry. I am not sure, but looking at the edit history you have banned a lot of users who edited this page. I'm concerned as in my experience I am simply a new user. Maybe it is best to get another opinion. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 03:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Your comment is not constructive. I'd appreciate constructive comments please. Banning legitimate users, insulting 'newbies', calling people 'socks' when they are not...please be constructive. She was one of three politicians to advocate atheism. Considering the wiki article for Abbott has mention of his catholicism; these three individuals should have a line about atheism. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 08:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I started adding sourced material on this site with the intention of adding to other ones. I was then banned for no reason whatsoever. I am concerned that one user is maintaining this site and getting rid of other opinions. I have every right to edit this page. It seems every comment here is against 'newbie's editing.
I disagree, considering the text discusses the fact she was a jewish refugee family it is appropriate that her religion is mentioned at least once. It is accurate and sourced. This is the same for another site so it should be the same for this one. As far as I can see, there is no new information since 2007. Looking at the history, it seems that all entries were reverted since then. Spotsdoes11 ( talk) 06:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Her religion is mentioned at least once. The infobox states that she is an atheist and it is sourced. There is nothing more to add. That source was the press trying to get politicians to state that they were atheist after the World Atheists Convention. Nicola Roxon, along with others, so stated, but I know of no other sources that could allow us to expand on her views. -- Bduke (Discussion) 07:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
added atheism as per Greg Combet et. al. It's very rare to see atheists as mp's so it is notable ur personal experiences are not sufficient to remove. 202.174.225.208 ( talk) 02:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
source asked all. she is only one of three in parliament who pub. say atheist. so she is only one of 3 pub. atheists. is same for all wiki entries. There is no problem for the other three only this one. reading through seems harsh edit war. good faith is asked for. 202.174.225.208 ( talk) 03:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Rebecca please explain your revision in the discussion. On wiki atheism is categorised as a valid entry for the religion section.
Incogfrig (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
13:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC).
Well, the category is for the individual's religion. She is an atheist. The categories are there to guide the encyclopaedia to provide information to the public. This allows people to reference categories. Particularly relevant in politics. Among a number of things is to allow people to do searches. I found this entry because of listening to the radio and there is a religion in politics debate. I wanted to know who is an atheist in the debate and who is religious. Also Euthanasia is a big issue and as health minister it is good to know what religion she is. It only adds to the encyclopaedia not detracting from it. Look at the entries for politics around the world. Religion is a big thing in Australian politics. Incogfrig ( talk)
You are being very rude to me for my first ever entry. That is not very nice considering I added information that is present for many other politics on the encyclopaedia. Incogfrig ( talk) 13:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
What are you on about? You are being very rude and not explaining why my comment was wrong? A heap of similar pages list atheist??
Incogfrig (
talk)
14:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
(outdent) Excluding the socks, it seems the consensus is that listing "Atheist" as this person's religion both lacks WP:RS and WP:NOTE. Am I mistaken? I'm rv'ing a recent change adding that appellation back to the infobox. JoeSperrazza ( talk)
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Nicola Roxon announced her resignation on 2 February (Australian time) not 1 February. The link to the date used as the source for the entry will confirm this! Cyberia 15 ( talk) 00:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
First external link should be updated from http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/biography.asp?id=83K to http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian?MPID=83K 58.6.131.50 ( talk) 08:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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Please remove the link in the personal details section to Nicola's website which is currently listed as https://www.vu.edu.au/contact-us/nicola-roxon. This page no longer exists, and Nicola is no longer affiliated with Victoria University. thanks Debby Kloot Victoria University Web Content Coordinator 101.173.78.44 ( talk) 04:34, 18 July 2022 (UTC)