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Original version not NPOV. Edited for neutrality. Garth M ( talk) 23:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Original version very heavily POV. Edited for neutrality. The allegation about material found in the university share house should not be in an encyclopaedic article about the subject at all, particularly if you follow the ref and find that it was housemates who were found guilty in relation to it and she was not. Garth M ( talk) 23:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
From California Sunday Magazine, January 2020, https://story.californiasunday.com/lawyer-x-melbourne : "Gobbo hadn’t lied to Abramson about her 1993 arrest, not exactly. That August, after an anonymous tip, the police had begun weeks of surveillance on a house belonging to Gobbo — “said to be the niece of Justice Gobbo of the Supreme Court” — a report noted. The focus of the investigation was a suspected drug dealer named Brian Wilson, with whom Gobbo was “living in a de facto relationship.” A raid turned up 3 pounds of amphetamines, nearly a pound of marijuana, and a cache of weapons. Wilson and another man were arrested at the house; the police picked up Gobbo at the university. All three were charged with drug possession and pleaded guilty. Gobbo received probation and a “good-behavior bond,” expunging her record after a year. Left out of Gobbo’s account was the fact that two years later, the police had raided the house again, finding another stash of speed. This time, Gobbo was frantic, telling an officer that another drug charge could keep her from being admitted to the bar. The officers on the scene that day have since claimed not to recall the precise moment when Gobbo became a source. But no charges were filed against her, and shortly afterward, she was officially registered as police informer G395. Her initial information concerned the continued dealings of her semi-estranged boyfriend, Wilson."
The full story implies that the police used these incidents as leverage to recruit her as an informant. Banchang ( talk) 06:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Nicola Gobbo. Clearly an outside opinion is needed. -- Mattinbgn ( talk) 06:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
This is the article as it was before it was substantially deleted. -- Brandonfarris ( talk) 06:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC) {Infobox person | name = Nicola Gobbo | image = | alt = | caption = | birth_name = | birth_date = | birth_place = | death_date = | death_place = | nationality = Australian | other_names = | known_for = being a Police informant | occupation = lawyer }} Nicola Gobbo is a prominent Melbourne criminal lawyer. [1] [2]
Gobbo first came to public attention when, while a member of the Australian Labor Party she claimed that a member of the Liberal party had forged a letter purportedly from Jeff Kennett complaining to the federal Liberals about funding cuts to state governments in order to cause a Labor campaign gaffe, if they used it. The then Treasurer, Ralph Willis used the forged document, without thoroughly checking its veracity, one of many factors in its unsuccessful 1996 federal election campaign. [3]
She initiated legal proceedings, claiming $20 million [4], against Victoria Police over her claim they had breached an agreement to provide her security, which were settled out of court. [5] She has recently come to public attention over media claims of her close connection with Underworld figures and her willingness to give evidence against some of them. [5] [6] It was revealed by the Herald Sun in 2011 that Gobbo had forged close social relationships with notorious Melbourne criminal figures [7] Gobbo recently withdrew from giving evidence in the prosecution of Paul Dale after allegations of death threats. [8]
Prior to becoming a lawyer, Gobbo pleaded guilty in 1993 to drug offences [9] after a Police raid on her home found "three pounds of amphetamines with a street value of $82,000 (and) three-quarters of a pound of cannabis with a street value of $3000" at the Carlton house where she lived, as well as "a large quantity of stolen property and a number of proscribed weapons." No conviction was recorded, though Gobbo was placed on a good behavior bond. [10]
She is the sister of a Melbourne barrister, Jeremy Gobbo QC. [11] She is also the niece of the former Governor of Victoria Sir James Gobbo [12]
I propose to add the following:
She initiated legal proceedings, claiming $20 million [4], against Victoria Police over her claim they had breached an agreement to provide her security, which were settled out of court. [5] She has recently come to public attention over media claims of her close connection with Underworld figures and her willingness to give evidence against some of them. [5] [6] It was revealed by the Herald Sun in 2011 that Gobbo had forged close social relationships with notorious Melbourne criminal figures [13] Gobbo recently withdrew from giving evidence in the prosecution of Paul Dale after allegations of death threats. [8]
Prior to becoming a lawyer, Gobbo pleaded guilty in 1993 to drug offences [14] after a Police raid on her home found "three pounds of amphetamines with a street value of $82,000 (and) three-quarters of a pound of cannabis with a street value of $3000" at the Carlton house where she lived, as well as "a large quantity of stolen property and a number of proscribed weapons." No conviction was recorded, though Gobbo was placed on a good behavior bond. [15]
-- Brandonfarris ( talk) 11:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
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Melbourne barrister Nicola Gobbo said: "What a fantastic program. I'm already a fan... It's always good to be able to laugh at reality and it's reality TV for the suburbs. I'm not a suburban housewife but I think it's fabulous."mirror
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In April, Ms Gobbo issued proceedings in the Supreme Court against the state of Victoria, Chief Commissioner Simon Overland and his predecessor, Christine Nixon. In her statement of claim, she alleges she was induced by police to make a statement against Mr Dale and her security and safety as a witness were not properly managed.mirror
After Mr Dale was charged over the burglary, Ms Gobbo visited him at Port Phillip Prison. Ms Gobbo was later asked to pass messages between Mr Dale and gangland killer Carl Williams. Ms Gobbo later gave a statement to police after recording a conversation she had with Mr Dale at an Albert Park coffee shop.mirror
Nicola Gobbo, a former criminal barrister, had issued Supreme Court proceedings against the State of Victoria, Chief Commissioner Simon Overland and his predecessor, Christine Nixon, alleging police had failed to comply with an agreement to protect her after she agreed to testify against former detective Paul Dale and put her safety at risk.mirror
A barrister who has represented several Melbourne underworld figures has been dropped as a prosecution witness in a case against a former drug squad detective because of concerns for her safety. Nicola Gobbo received death threats over her involvement in the case against Paul Dale.mirror
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I added a brief paragraph on her testimony in the police corruption case.
I understand that some contributors feel there are BLP concerns in various versions of this article. But they haven't been clear as to how the material they excised violates BLP. I request they make a greater effort to do so. Meanwhile I think the brief paragraph I added is policy-compliant. Geo Swan ( talk) 22:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
When I came across this article I was sufficiently unhappy with it to spend hours on this edit. I think I've improved the article, but there sure is lots of room for further improvement. Given Ms Gobbo's clear WikiNotablity, WP:BLP and common decency require those who edit here to be especially careful. (Experience with controversial BLPs strongly recommended.) CWC 13:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Here are a few problems I noticed:
Please feel free to comment on each bullet point. (That's why I've signed them.) CWC 13:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 6 December 2011 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep. |
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Original version not NPOV. Edited for neutrality. Garth M ( talk) 23:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Original version very heavily POV. Edited for neutrality. The allegation about material found in the university share house should not be in an encyclopaedic article about the subject at all, particularly if you follow the ref and find that it was housemates who were found guilty in relation to it and she was not. Garth M ( talk) 23:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
From California Sunday Magazine, January 2020, https://story.californiasunday.com/lawyer-x-melbourne : "Gobbo hadn’t lied to Abramson about her 1993 arrest, not exactly. That August, after an anonymous tip, the police had begun weeks of surveillance on a house belonging to Gobbo — “said to be the niece of Justice Gobbo of the Supreme Court” — a report noted. The focus of the investigation was a suspected drug dealer named Brian Wilson, with whom Gobbo was “living in a de facto relationship.” A raid turned up 3 pounds of amphetamines, nearly a pound of marijuana, and a cache of weapons. Wilson and another man were arrested at the house; the police picked up Gobbo at the university. All three were charged with drug possession and pleaded guilty. Gobbo received probation and a “good-behavior bond,” expunging her record after a year. Left out of Gobbo’s account was the fact that two years later, the police had raided the house again, finding another stash of speed. This time, Gobbo was frantic, telling an officer that another drug charge could keep her from being admitted to the bar. The officers on the scene that day have since claimed not to recall the precise moment when Gobbo became a source. But no charges were filed against her, and shortly afterward, she was officially registered as police informer G395. Her initial information concerned the continued dealings of her semi-estranged boyfriend, Wilson."
The full story implies that the police used these incidents as leverage to recruit her as an informant. Banchang ( talk) 06:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Nicola Gobbo. Clearly an outside opinion is needed. -- Mattinbgn ( talk) 06:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
This is the article as it was before it was substantially deleted. -- Brandonfarris ( talk) 06:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC) {Infobox person | name = Nicola Gobbo | image = | alt = | caption = | birth_name = | birth_date = | birth_place = | death_date = | death_place = | nationality = Australian | other_names = | known_for = being a Police informant | occupation = lawyer }} Nicola Gobbo is a prominent Melbourne criminal lawyer. [1] [2]
Gobbo first came to public attention when, while a member of the Australian Labor Party she claimed that a member of the Liberal party had forged a letter purportedly from Jeff Kennett complaining to the federal Liberals about funding cuts to state governments in order to cause a Labor campaign gaffe, if they used it. The then Treasurer, Ralph Willis used the forged document, without thoroughly checking its veracity, one of many factors in its unsuccessful 1996 federal election campaign. [3]
She initiated legal proceedings, claiming $20 million [4], against Victoria Police over her claim they had breached an agreement to provide her security, which were settled out of court. [5] She has recently come to public attention over media claims of her close connection with Underworld figures and her willingness to give evidence against some of them. [5] [6] It was revealed by the Herald Sun in 2011 that Gobbo had forged close social relationships with notorious Melbourne criminal figures [7] Gobbo recently withdrew from giving evidence in the prosecution of Paul Dale after allegations of death threats. [8]
Prior to becoming a lawyer, Gobbo pleaded guilty in 1993 to drug offences [9] after a Police raid on her home found "three pounds of amphetamines with a street value of $82,000 (and) three-quarters of a pound of cannabis with a street value of $3000" at the Carlton house where she lived, as well as "a large quantity of stolen property and a number of proscribed weapons." No conviction was recorded, though Gobbo was placed on a good behavior bond. [10]
She is the sister of a Melbourne barrister, Jeremy Gobbo QC. [11] She is also the niece of the former Governor of Victoria Sir James Gobbo [12]
I propose to add the following:
She initiated legal proceedings, claiming $20 million [4], against Victoria Police over her claim they had breached an agreement to provide her security, which were settled out of court. [5] She has recently come to public attention over media claims of her close connection with Underworld figures and her willingness to give evidence against some of them. [5] [6] It was revealed by the Herald Sun in 2011 that Gobbo had forged close social relationships with notorious Melbourne criminal figures [13] Gobbo recently withdrew from giving evidence in the prosecution of Paul Dale after allegations of death threats. [8]
Prior to becoming a lawyer, Gobbo pleaded guilty in 1993 to drug offences [14] after a Police raid on her home found "three pounds of amphetamines with a street value of $82,000 (and) three-quarters of a pound of cannabis with a street value of $3000" at the Carlton house where she lived, as well as "a large quantity of stolen property and a number of proscribed weapons." No conviction was recorded, though Gobbo was placed on a good behavior bond. [15]
-- Brandonfarris ( talk) 11:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
References
Melbourne barrister Nicola Gobbo said: "What a fantastic program. I'm already a fan... It's always good to be able to laugh at reality and it's reality TV for the suburbs. I'm not a suburban housewife but I think it's fabulous."mirror
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In April, Ms Gobbo issued proceedings in the Supreme Court against the state of Victoria, Chief Commissioner Simon Overland and his predecessor, Christine Nixon. In her statement of claim, she alleges she was induced by police to make a statement against Mr Dale and her security and safety as a witness were not properly managed.mirror
After Mr Dale was charged over the burglary, Ms Gobbo visited him at Port Phillip Prison. Ms Gobbo was later asked to pass messages between Mr Dale and gangland killer Carl Williams. Ms Gobbo later gave a statement to police after recording a conversation she had with Mr Dale at an Albert Park coffee shop.mirror
Nicola Gobbo, a former criminal barrister, had issued Supreme Court proceedings against the State of Victoria, Chief Commissioner Simon Overland and his predecessor, Christine Nixon, alleging police had failed to comply with an agreement to protect her after she agreed to testify against former detective Paul Dale and put her safety at risk.mirror
A barrister who has represented several Melbourne underworld figures has been dropped as a prosecution witness in a case against a former drug squad detective because of concerns for her safety. Nicola Gobbo received death threats over her involvement in the case against Paul Dale.mirror
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I added a brief paragraph on her testimony in the police corruption case.
I understand that some contributors feel there are BLP concerns in various versions of this article. But they haven't been clear as to how the material they excised violates BLP. I request they make a greater effort to do so. Meanwhile I think the brief paragraph I added is policy-compliant. Geo Swan ( talk) 22:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
When I came across this article I was sufficiently unhappy with it to spend hours on this edit. I think I've improved the article, but there sure is lots of room for further improvement. Given Ms Gobbo's clear WikiNotablity, WP:BLP and common decency require those who edit here to be especially careful. (Experience with controversial BLPs strongly recommended.) CWC 13:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Here are a few problems I noticed:
Please feel free to comment on each bullet point. (That's why I've signed them.) CWC 13:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)