This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Previously many of Rahall's issue positions and legislative accomplishments had been crammed together under the "tenure" section. I have renamed the section "Issues" (a much more appropriate name for the info that is there) and broken each issue out by section, i also added a few in an earlier edit. i did not remove/add any information when doing this.
i think the section is much more manageable now and easier to find info on an issue as it relates to his position.
In the second paragraph of this article, it is speculated that Congressman Rahall dropped out of George Washington University purely because of the ending of the draft but no source is given to confirm if that is a fact or pure coincidence.
Also, it is speculated in the second paragraph of this article that just because Congressman Rahall worked under Senator Byrd, that he is "racist", but of course just as before, there is no source to verify this statement. Working under Senator Byrd is not enough evidence to claim that Rahall shares his views in itself. On that same note, just because Rahall is of Lebanese decent does not mean that is the motivation behind is voting record on the Middle East. All of these above statements would be fine if there were sources to back them up.
I feel these statements should be removed from this "article" if sources cannot be cited to support these claims...if there are no sources to support these claims, then it is apparent that this is not an article, but instead it's someone's opinion piece.
-- Caponer 06:47, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Caponer on this. I am going to remove the comment on him agreeing with Byrd's views on race, since there is no evidence that he is racist. Most of the other stuff added recently is mere speculation and should also be tossed. Youngamerican 16:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
There is way too much that is purposely written in a negative way, irrelevant, or made up. -Ernie
Nick Rahall doesn't really know what is happening in the Middle East. He should get a clue: Israel was attacked and is responding to aggression. Its escaped his notice Israel is still under attack. Its not Israel's responsibility to let Hezbollah go unharmed; its the job of the Lebanese to dismantle the state within a state that keeps them from having a fully normal life. Hezbollah must be destroyed for there to be peace. At the moment, I think the humane solution would be for Israel's Air Force to turn Hezbollahland into good-sized parking lots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SoCalJustice ( talk • contribs)
Was just reading a news article which states Rahall is a mason and knights templar. If true it ought to be relevent to this page. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090928/pl_politico/27639
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 00:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I find it somewhat odd that the second line of his "early life" section is that he is of Lebanese descent. If he was born in the United States (he was) to parents born in the United States (not sure), then it seems extraneous. We don't include that various public figures are of Irish, or English, or German descent at the top of their bios. This particularly caught my notice because attack ads have been run against Rahall recently based on his ethnicity [1]. Arbor832466 ( talk) 23:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Recent edits have added excessive, unsourced text emphasizing Rahall's ethnic background. I am going to revert. This whole page needs a massive overhaul and ought to be referred to the bio page for more intensive edits. Hammerpleasedonthurtem ( talk) 04:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Came here to take a look from post at WP:BLP/N. I have made a few edits to conform the article to our BLP policies to the best of my ability. See edit summaries for details. Happy editing! - Cwobeel (talk) 15:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Also, as was explained to you already, material that is reflected in the text is properly reflected in the lede. Stop removing it on the basis that it is already stated in the text below.
Also, as already indicated to you, the refs in the text are sufficient -- they need not be repeated in the lede.
Finally, please stop making deletions of this ilk unless you have consensus for the deletions, as reflecting in the views of editors expressed in this ongoing conversation, and their views as reflected in edit summary comments to revisions to the article.
If you read the articles, he was one of very few Members that the Democrats considered endangered. And if you google it, you will see that in addition to the supplied refs, this has received ample RS attention. That's what makes it an important aspect of an article on him. And that's what makes it appropriate for the lede. The same is true of the fact that he was the only member of the House to oppose the 1993 resolution for an end to the Arab boycott of Israel - also amply covered by RSs, and also an important distinguishing characteristic from most other House members. Epeefleche ( talk) 21:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
The fact that Rahall was the only one of 435 members of the House to vote against the Arab boycott of Israel seems to me to be worthy of mention in the lede to his bio. What's the rationale for exclusion? CFredkin ( talk) 05:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have a ref for the name of his first wife (mother of his children)? -- Epeefleche ( talk) 02:53, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Previously many of Rahall's issue positions and legislative accomplishments had been crammed together under the "tenure" section. I have renamed the section "Issues" (a much more appropriate name for the info that is there) and broken each issue out by section, i also added a few in an earlier edit. i did not remove/add any information when doing this.
i think the section is much more manageable now and easier to find info on an issue as it relates to his position.
In the second paragraph of this article, it is speculated that Congressman Rahall dropped out of George Washington University purely because of the ending of the draft but no source is given to confirm if that is a fact or pure coincidence.
Also, it is speculated in the second paragraph of this article that just because Congressman Rahall worked under Senator Byrd, that he is "racist", but of course just as before, there is no source to verify this statement. Working under Senator Byrd is not enough evidence to claim that Rahall shares his views in itself. On that same note, just because Rahall is of Lebanese decent does not mean that is the motivation behind is voting record on the Middle East. All of these above statements would be fine if there were sources to back them up.
I feel these statements should be removed from this "article" if sources cannot be cited to support these claims...if there are no sources to support these claims, then it is apparent that this is not an article, but instead it's someone's opinion piece.
-- Caponer 06:47, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Caponer on this. I am going to remove the comment on him agreeing with Byrd's views on race, since there is no evidence that he is racist. Most of the other stuff added recently is mere speculation and should also be tossed. Youngamerican 16:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
There is way too much that is purposely written in a negative way, irrelevant, or made up. -Ernie
Nick Rahall doesn't really know what is happening in the Middle East. He should get a clue: Israel was attacked and is responding to aggression. Its escaped his notice Israel is still under attack. Its not Israel's responsibility to let Hezbollah go unharmed; its the job of the Lebanese to dismantle the state within a state that keeps them from having a fully normal life. Hezbollah must be destroyed for there to be peace. At the moment, I think the humane solution would be for Israel's Air Force to turn Hezbollahland into good-sized parking lots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SoCalJustice ( talk • contribs)
Was just reading a news article which states Rahall is a mason and knights templar. If true it ought to be relevent to this page. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090928/pl_politico/27639
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 00:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I find it somewhat odd that the second line of his "early life" section is that he is of Lebanese descent. If he was born in the United States (he was) to parents born in the United States (not sure), then it seems extraneous. We don't include that various public figures are of Irish, or English, or German descent at the top of their bios. This particularly caught my notice because attack ads have been run against Rahall recently based on his ethnicity [1]. Arbor832466 ( talk) 23:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Recent edits have added excessive, unsourced text emphasizing Rahall's ethnic background. I am going to revert. This whole page needs a massive overhaul and ought to be referred to the bio page for more intensive edits. Hammerpleasedonthurtem ( talk) 04:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Came here to take a look from post at WP:BLP/N. I have made a few edits to conform the article to our BLP policies to the best of my ability. See edit summaries for details. Happy editing! - Cwobeel (talk) 15:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Also, as was explained to you already, material that is reflected in the text is properly reflected in the lede. Stop removing it on the basis that it is already stated in the text below.
Also, as already indicated to you, the refs in the text are sufficient -- they need not be repeated in the lede.
Finally, please stop making deletions of this ilk unless you have consensus for the deletions, as reflecting in the views of editors expressed in this ongoing conversation, and their views as reflected in edit summary comments to revisions to the article.
If you read the articles, he was one of very few Members that the Democrats considered endangered. And if you google it, you will see that in addition to the supplied refs, this has received ample RS attention. That's what makes it an important aspect of an article on him. And that's what makes it appropriate for the lede. The same is true of the fact that he was the only member of the House to oppose the 1993 resolution for an end to the Arab boycott of Israel - also amply covered by RSs, and also an important distinguishing characteristic from most other House members. Epeefleche ( talk) 21:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
The fact that Rahall was the only one of 435 members of the House to vote against the Arab boycott of Israel seems to me to be worthy of mention in the lede to his bio. What's the rationale for exclusion? CFredkin ( talk) 05:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have a ref for the name of his first wife (mother of his children)? -- Epeefleche ( talk) 02:53, 7 October 2014 (UTC)