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Nicholas I and II Garai(! - not Garay) also served as Ban before becoming Palatine. In Hungarian publications, this Nicholas is often called "Miklós nádor" ("Palatine Nicholas"), and he is the only person among the palatines named Nicholas, whose family (or kindred) name is unknown. --
Norden1990 (
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15:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
For instance,
Nicholas Szécsi was either palatine, judge royal and ban. I think the current title is the most appropriate, in accordance with
Denis, Palatine of Hungary or
Mog, Palatine of Hungary. Maybe I can create a disambiguation page, similarly to
Nicholas of Transylvania. It's a pretty tough question, I know, there are many identical names among the medieval office-holders in Hungary, but in this case, I cannot use a regnal number (like
Ladislaus II and
Ladislaus III Kán), because his kindred and origin is totally unknown (see Identification section in the article). For the Garai question: the two articles are really should to be move, because the Garay is an incorrect name (in 19th century works and literatures, they were sometimes called as "Gara", so the "Garay" name form is not even an archaic version, this is simply a misspelling). --
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Nicholas I and II Garai(! - not Garay) also served as Ban before becoming Palatine. In Hungarian publications, this Nicholas is often called "Miklós nádor" ("Palatine Nicholas"), and he is the only person among the palatines named Nicholas, whose family (or kindred) name is unknown. --
Norden1990 (
talk)
15:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)reply
For instance,
Nicholas Szécsi was either palatine, judge royal and ban. I think the current title is the most appropriate, in accordance with
Denis, Palatine of Hungary or
Mog, Palatine of Hungary. Maybe I can create a disambiguation page, similarly to
Nicholas of Transylvania. It's a pretty tough question, I know, there are many identical names among the medieval office-holders in Hungary, but in this case, I cannot use a regnal number (like
Ladislaus II and
Ladislaus III Kán), because his kindred and origin is totally unknown (see Identification section in the article). For the Garai question: the two articles are really should to be move, because the Garay is an incorrect name (in 19th century works and literatures, they were sometimes called as "Gara", so the "Garay" name form is not even an archaic version, this is simply a misspelling). --
Norden1990 (
talk)
12:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)reply