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Interesting note, she appeared in the May 3rd article "Women make their mark" about the changing role of women in war, in the Ottawa Sun [1] (Probably also in other SunMedia papers) Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
C*****, can't you vultures restrain yourselves from writing articles like this? Does no one deserve any privacy anymore? Adam Bishop 02:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Goddard's parents have agreed to speak with the media once (At the University of Calgary today, but asked that they be otherwise left to their privacy - so I (and you!) will try to respect that. On the other hand, her husband Jason Beam seems to be have been rather candid, and the new facts come from him. The question of whether “we”�should listen to a husband or parents of a young woman...well, that opens a beautiful Schiavo-esque can of worms, ugh. Anyways, in my opinion, at the very least her sister’s livejournal is off-limits entirely, otherwise things can be discussed whether or not they’re appropriate. But if you look at most articles on WP, we ‘’do’’ often mention the dictator’s hobbies, or the novellist’s first five wives, etcetera. Such is WP. Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I was under the impression she was a FOO for a gun battery and operating with PPCLI trrops as such. I don't think she was transfered.
Motorfix 05:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Nichola was a FOO in "A" Battery which was supporting the 1st Battalion, PPCLI. She wasn't actually transferred to the PPCLI. This mission is unique, however, in that A Battery, to my knowledge, has been attached to 1 PPCLI "OPCOM" (Operational Command for those not familiar with mil-speak) instead of the usual OPCON (Operational Control). OPCOM gives far more flexibility to the gaining organization to alter the organization and mission of the attached unit.
I am editing this article to reflect that she is the first woman to be killed in service since World War 2 as that is correct. It has come out that is the case.
Just a note, this is a very sad event and I like having this article here so people can get to know those who serve to protect us, whether you believe the action in far east is protection. She died with honour we can only aspire to obtain yet I can see that as not a consolation to those who lost her but we can only offer sympathy and an attempt of understanding at times like this. We cannot offer resurrection but we can at the very least apprecate her service and sacrifice.-- Kirkoconnell 14:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC) 13:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
After most recent revission, the artical does not even mention that she is Canada's first female soldier killed. I don't have time to change...can someone else do this! Motorfix 18:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Michael...my error. that will teach me to skim! However, the fact that she is the first female soldier killed is what is most relavent. The other 15 soldiers killed do not have their own entries on Wikipedia. If she had been a male, this page might not even be here. Motorfix 19:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the page works with the format it is in without changes. The death of any Canadian soldier regardless of gender is of equal tragedy. She was a commissioned officer first, and foremost. And I do agree, that all of our soldiers deserve equal recognition. Motorfix 19:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Motorfix on this issue, the reason she garnered so much attention was because she was the first female..., go look at all the other examples on Wikipedia of "first female..."s, they tend to mention it in the opening. Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 21:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Should this even be here? If She was A Captain, then of coarse she was a 2nd leiutentant. Also, Rank of leiutenant and officer cadet are missing..Not required, I've deleted.
Motorfix 16:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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Properly speaking, MCpl Griesbach was not a combat soldier; she was a medic. Wording should probably be changed to bring out that differentiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.149.33 ( talk) 03:33, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
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Interesting note, she appeared in the May 3rd article "Women make their mark" about the changing role of women in war, in the Ottawa Sun [1] (Probably also in other SunMedia papers) Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
C*****, can't you vultures restrain yourselves from writing articles like this? Does no one deserve any privacy anymore? Adam Bishop 02:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Goddard's parents have agreed to speak with the media once (At the University of Calgary today, but asked that they be otherwise left to their privacy - so I (and you!) will try to respect that. On the other hand, her husband Jason Beam seems to be have been rather candid, and the new facts come from him. The question of whether “we”�should listen to a husband or parents of a young woman...well, that opens a beautiful Schiavo-esque can of worms, ugh. Anyways, in my opinion, at the very least her sister’s livejournal is off-limits entirely, otherwise things can be discussed whether or not they’re appropriate. But if you look at most articles on WP, we ‘’do’’ often mention the dictator’s hobbies, or the novellist’s first five wives, etcetera. Such is WP. Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I was under the impression she was a FOO for a gun battery and operating with PPCLI trrops as such. I don't think she was transfered.
Motorfix 05:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Nichola was a FOO in "A" Battery which was supporting the 1st Battalion, PPCLI. She wasn't actually transferred to the PPCLI. This mission is unique, however, in that A Battery, to my knowledge, has been attached to 1 PPCLI "OPCOM" (Operational Command for those not familiar with mil-speak) instead of the usual OPCON (Operational Control). OPCOM gives far more flexibility to the gaining organization to alter the organization and mission of the attached unit.
I am editing this article to reflect that she is the first woman to be killed in service since World War 2 as that is correct. It has come out that is the case.
Just a note, this is a very sad event and I like having this article here so people can get to know those who serve to protect us, whether you believe the action in far east is protection. She died with honour we can only aspire to obtain yet I can see that as not a consolation to those who lost her but we can only offer sympathy and an attempt of understanding at times like this. We cannot offer resurrection but we can at the very least apprecate her service and sacrifice.-- Kirkoconnell 14:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC) 13:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
After most recent revission, the artical does not even mention that she is Canada's first female soldier killed. I don't have time to change...can someone else do this! Motorfix 18:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Michael...my error. that will teach me to skim! However, the fact that she is the first female soldier killed is what is most relavent. The other 15 soldiers killed do not have their own entries on Wikipedia. If she had been a male, this page might not even be here. Motorfix 19:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the page works with the format it is in without changes. The death of any Canadian soldier regardless of gender is of equal tragedy. She was a commissioned officer first, and foremost. And I do agree, that all of our soldiers deserve equal recognition. Motorfix 19:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Motorfix on this issue, the reason she garnered so much attention was because she was the first female..., go look at all the other examples on Wikipedia of "first female..."s, they tend to mention it in the opening. Sherurcij ( talk) ( Terrorist Wikiproject) 21:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Should this even be here? If She was A Captain, then of coarse she was a 2nd leiutentant. Also, Rank of leiutenant and officer cadet are missing..Not required, I've deleted.
Motorfix 16:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 17:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Properly speaking, MCpl Griesbach was not a combat soldier; she was a medic. Wording should probably be changed to bring out that differentiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.149.33 ( talk) 03:33, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
I propose converting this article to use inline citation templates, specifically the cite family - any objections? Nikkimaria ( talk) 02:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC)