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The article notes that newsgroup spam came before email spam, dating it as 1994. But another page notes that DEC made the first email spam in 1978 (anniversary is around today, give or takle a day or two). Both articles can't be correct. Rhialto 07:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Please see WP:V and the associated documents regarding citing things from usenet and other self-published sources. Making the claim that " The first widely recognized Usenet spam (though not the most famous) was posted on January 18, 1994 by Clarence L. Thomas IV, a sysadmin at Andrews University. Entitled "Global Alert for All: Jesus is Coming Soon"" with the only citation being usenet violates WP:V. A credible source needs to make that claim or present that as fact in order for it to be used on wikipedia, otherwise its original research.-- Crossmr 02:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Which was all that was needed. Its not that hard to make an article that follows wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thanks Bryan!-- Crossmr 07:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
How on Earth is it possible to have a Wikipedia page dedicated Newsgroup Spam and fail to mention the one overwhelming source in recent times: "MI5 Persecution". Obnoxious as it is, that spam is terribly prevalent across hundreds of groups and is definitely notable. Trimbo ( talk) 00:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Amazing. The SPAM term and the process was a result of shady (or opportunistic?) individuals trying to make a quick buck with little or no expense at the expense of those of us trying to organize vast amounts of knowledge into thousands of little news slots. At the time, they violated only the professional and gentleman's agreement and trust we all had at the time to follow the forum and BBS rules of conduct. Average users would complain about all the identical, non-relevant ad messages in multiple newsgroups. As an abbreviation we called these annoying messages SPAMMA, which was quickly reduced to just SPAM. It stood for Same Post Across Many Message Areas. Later it was universally known as any unwanted solicitations or otherwise annoying duplicate messages. These individuals have no more credibility now than then. Let alone credible books or web sources to cite. I'm 63 years old. I was a Sperry (Unisys) then LAN Sysadmin. For a hobby I spent hours moving and forwarding my local BBS news spools to the next hub over phone lines at 300 then 1200 baud. These were later merged into USENET. I was there. There may have been advertising earlier, but the term SPAM was born in news groups and USENET. I'm a little saddened that a search of the acronym SPAMMA and USENET returned no results. I would hate to see the truth die with us old timers. 216.186.242.44 ( talk) 20:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC) LanMan
Neutrality is challenged, but not commented upon, so no response possible at this point, other than to say it reads as neutral to me. Wickorama ( talk) 00:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The current two versions of Google Groups both have a way to flag a posting as span in the UI; the newer version immediately hides the flagged post for anyone else who looks at it in the new UI. Does that affect the validity of this section of the article? DavidLeeLambert ( talk) 22:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm amused by how the coda about Google Groups makes the wikipedia article itself read like a USENET thread, with the main article as the original post and the Google Groups thing as a reply. I had to resist the urge to post this message on the talk page, instead of as another reply at the bottom of the article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.11.182 ( talk) 07:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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The article notes that newsgroup spam came before email spam, dating it as 1994. But another page notes that DEC made the first email spam in 1978 (anniversary is around today, give or takle a day or two). Both articles can't be correct. Rhialto 07:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Please see WP:V and the associated documents regarding citing things from usenet and other self-published sources. Making the claim that " The first widely recognized Usenet spam (though not the most famous) was posted on January 18, 1994 by Clarence L. Thomas IV, a sysadmin at Andrews University. Entitled "Global Alert for All: Jesus is Coming Soon"" with the only citation being usenet violates WP:V. A credible source needs to make that claim or present that as fact in order for it to be used on wikipedia, otherwise its original research.-- Crossmr 02:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Which was all that was needed. Its not that hard to make an article that follows wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thanks Bryan!-- Crossmr 07:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
How on Earth is it possible to have a Wikipedia page dedicated Newsgroup Spam and fail to mention the one overwhelming source in recent times: "MI5 Persecution". Obnoxious as it is, that spam is terribly prevalent across hundreds of groups and is definitely notable. Trimbo ( talk) 00:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Amazing. The SPAM term and the process was a result of shady (or opportunistic?) individuals trying to make a quick buck with little or no expense at the expense of those of us trying to organize vast amounts of knowledge into thousands of little news slots. At the time, they violated only the professional and gentleman's agreement and trust we all had at the time to follow the forum and BBS rules of conduct. Average users would complain about all the identical, non-relevant ad messages in multiple newsgroups. As an abbreviation we called these annoying messages SPAMMA, which was quickly reduced to just SPAM. It stood for Same Post Across Many Message Areas. Later it was universally known as any unwanted solicitations or otherwise annoying duplicate messages. These individuals have no more credibility now than then. Let alone credible books or web sources to cite. I'm 63 years old. I was a Sperry (Unisys) then LAN Sysadmin. For a hobby I spent hours moving and forwarding my local BBS news spools to the next hub over phone lines at 300 then 1200 baud. These were later merged into USENET. I was there. There may have been advertising earlier, but the term SPAM was born in news groups and USENET. I'm a little saddened that a search of the acronym SPAMMA and USENET returned no results. I would hate to see the truth die with us old timers. 216.186.242.44 ( talk) 20:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC) LanMan
Neutrality is challenged, but not commented upon, so no response possible at this point, other than to say it reads as neutral to me. Wickorama ( talk) 00:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The current two versions of Google Groups both have a way to flag a posting as span in the UI; the newer version immediately hides the flagged post for anyone else who looks at it in the new UI. Does that affect the validity of this section of the article? DavidLeeLambert ( talk) 22:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm amused by how the coda about Google Groups makes the wikipedia article itself read like a USENET thread, with the main article as the original post and the Google Groups thing as a reply. I had to resist the urge to post this message on the talk page, instead of as another reply at the bottom of the article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.11.182 ( talk) 07:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)