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Article is largely a combination of Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange. Both of these are significantly different to warrant separate articles being located on separate sites and existing simultaneously, albeit within the same suburb. Similar situation occurred where Shellharbour Junction railway station replaced Dunmore railway station within the same suburb. Turingway ( talk) 05:44, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
So here's what I understand your argument to be - you're accusing me of content forking the articles Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange to create the Newcastle Interchange railway station article. This is untrue because 1) my original edits saw the Wickham railway station article be redirected to Newcastle Interchange railway station, and 2) if you had actually read the Newcastle Interchange railway station article, you'd find it's almost completely original of the other two articles, and larger than the two combined in fact (Newcastle Interchange railway station is 29,767 bytes, while Wickham railway station is 6,237 bytes and Newcastle Interchange was 8,061 bytes before my first changes), aside from infobox, navbox, category and tech template similarities. The Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange articles were pretty bare-bones to begin with. I'm planning to update the Newcastle Interchange article in the future.
I couldn't have possibly forked from Wickham railway station, because Newcastle Interchange railway station had a lot more information, with more citations, on the original Wickham station than even that article did. Thus, the reason why I decided to redirect it into the Newcastle Interchange railway station in the first place. It was basically a merger of that article and a hypothetical article about the new station into one article that chronicles the entire history of stations on the Wickham railway station site. Newcastle Interchange was repurposed by me to become an article about the entire site, rather than just the railway station. Long story short, I didn't content fork, I simply make an article about the railway station, and have plans to create one about the greater complex, out of the Newcastle Interchange article. Here's a visual representation of what these article topics and their relation are, from my point of view:
4. Station history from 1936-2014 Wickham railway station | |||||||||||
2. Train station at Newcastle Interchange Newcastle Interchange railway station | |||||||||||
5. Station history from 2014-present No article | |||||||||||
1. Transport complex at Wickham Newcastle Interchange | |||||||||||
3. Light rail stop at Newcastle Interchange No article | |||||||||||
-- Philip Terry Graham 08:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Didn't ever suggest that the Newcastle Interchange was superior in terms of content to the Newcastle Interchange railway station article, but what we have ended up with is two articles that can more then adequately be covered in one as is being discussed below. Turingway ( talk) 05:35, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Propose to merge this article into Newcastle Interchange and reinstate Wickham railway station article. The railway station is the largest component of the Newcastle Interchange, so both should be consolidated into one article. Generally multi-modal stations where the railway station is the dominant component are incorporated into the one article, e.g. Central, Edgecliff. Wickham railway station, which currently redirects to this article, is a separate structure on a separate site and still stands today.
Suggest Wickham article be reinstated to cover the detail up until 2014 and Newcastle Interchange, the period after. When a station is demolished and rebuilt on the same site as a like-for-like replacement, the case for separate articles is weaker, but as the two stations still both exist, are on separate sites, have differing names, are quite different in function (through station vs multi-modal terminus) and there was a period of a few years between one opening and construction starting on the other, think there is a case for stand alone articles. Silverserv ( talk) 02:56, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
TL;DR we don't need seperate articles for when a station gets a faceliftwould apply. That Newcastle Interchange at one point had the working title of Wickham Interchange is of little relevance. With the railway station the largest part of Newcastle Interchange, don't see any real need to have a separate Newcastle Interchange railway station article when it can be accommodated within the former article. Turingway ( talk) 05:53, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
There are no see also links, could we add some (obviously only if they are relevant). Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 14:46, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Newcastle Interchange railway station received a peer review by Wikipedia editors, which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article. |
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This redirect is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
A fact from Newcastle Interchange railway station appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 14 June 2017 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
|
Article is largely a combination of Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange. Both of these are significantly different to warrant separate articles being located on separate sites and existing simultaneously, albeit within the same suburb. Similar situation occurred where Shellharbour Junction railway station replaced Dunmore railway station within the same suburb. Turingway ( talk) 05:44, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
So here's what I understand your argument to be - you're accusing me of content forking the articles Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange to create the Newcastle Interchange railway station article. This is untrue because 1) my original edits saw the Wickham railway station article be redirected to Newcastle Interchange railway station, and 2) if you had actually read the Newcastle Interchange railway station article, you'd find it's almost completely original of the other two articles, and larger than the two combined in fact (Newcastle Interchange railway station is 29,767 bytes, while Wickham railway station is 6,237 bytes and Newcastle Interchange was 8,061 bytes before my first changes), aside from infobox, navbox, category and tech template similarities. The Wickham railway station and Newcastle Interchange articles were pretty bare-bones to begin with. I'm planning to update the Newcastle Interchange article in the future.
I couldn't have possibly forked from Wickham railway station, because Newcastle Interchange railway station had a lot more information, with more citations, on the original Wickham station than even that article did. Thus, the reason why I decided to redirect it into the Newcastle Interchange railway station in the first place. It was basically a merger of that article and a hypothetical article about the new station into one article that chronicles the entire history of stations on the Wickham railway station site. Newcastle Interchange was repurposed by me to become an article about the entire site, rather than just the railway station. Long story short, I didn't content fork, I simply make an article about the railway station, and have plans to create one about the greater complex, out of the Newcastle Interchange article. Here's a visual representation of what these article topics and their relation are, from my point of view:
4. Station history from 1936-2014 Wickham railway station | |||||||||||
2. Train station at Newcastle Interchange Newcastle Interchange railway station | |||||||||||
5. Station history from 2014-present No article | |||||||||||
1. Transport complex at Wickham Newcastle Interchange | |||||||||||
3. Light rail stop at Newcastle Interchange No article | |||||||||||
-- Philip Terry Graham 08:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Didn't ever suggest that the Newcastle Interchange was superior in terms of content to the Newcastle Interchange railway station article, but what we have ended up with is two articles that can more then adequately be covered in one as is being discussed below. Turingway ( talk) 05:35, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Propose to merge this article into Newcastle Interchange and reinstate Wickham railway station article. The railway station is the largest component of the Newcastle Interchange, so both should be consolidated into one article. Generally multi-modal stations where the railway station is the dominant component are incorporated into the one article, e.g. Central, Edgecliff. Wickham railway station, which currently redirects to this article, is a separate structure on a separate site and still stands today.
Suggest Wickham article be reinstated to cover the detail up until 2014 and Newcastle Interchange, the period after. When a station is demolished and rebuilt on the same site as a like-for-like replacement, the case for separate articles is weaker, but as the two stations still both exist, are on separate sites, have differing names, are quite different in function (through station vs multi-modal terminus) and there was a period of a few years between one opening and construction starting on the other, think there is a case for stand alone articles. Silverserv ( talk) 02:56, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
TL;DR we don't need seperate articles for when a station gets a faceliftwould apply. That Newcastle Interchange at one point had the working title of Wickham Interchange is of little relevance. With the railway station the largest part of Newcastle Interchange, don't see any real need to have a separate Newcastle Interchange railway station article when it can be accommodated within the former article. Turingway ( talk) 05:53, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
There are no see also links, could we add some (obviously only if they are relevant). Absolutelypuremilk ( talk) 14:46, 27 May 2017 (UTC)