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![]() | On 12 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Pennsylvania Station (Newark) to Newark Penn Station. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Is the $42 million consruction figure in current dollars or those of the time of construction? - Masspete
At the time of construction. The figure was for the station and related projects though - I've added info about that. -- SPUI ( talk) 06:39, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article include all the information presently on the Newark (PATH station) article? Having two different articles on the same railroad station creates confusion. Someone wanting to look at all the connections he can make, should be able to go to one article to find them all. -- Temlakos 18:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I support a merger. The PATH station is an integral part of Newark Penn. -- CComMack 09:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Support merge. The station serves several rail services, but it is one station. There is no separate PATH station. Bob schwartz 01:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. While it's fine to include more mention about PATH service in Pennsylvania Station (Newark), a separate article should exist for just the PATH station for matter of consistency. I tried combining the two [1], and it breaks the consistent style used for all PATH station articles by having the infobox toward the bottom. - Aude ( talk contribs) 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Support It's one building. The trackage is separate/semi-separate because the power transmission to the trains is different (caternaries vs. 3rd rail). It's still one building. Heck! There're even cross-platform transfers! REwhite 23:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I am proposing merging the articles as mentioned prior into one, as they are physically part of the same station complex. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 08:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone expand on this? Does the arrivals track lead to a yard, which has a return track to Newark Penn? DarkStarHarry ( talk) 00:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know how to change the track diagram? Tracks 1 and A don't split south/west of the station (toward the bottom of the diagram); instead track 2 splits just above the bottom of the diagram into station track 2 and station track 1, with the track that was track 1 south/west of the station becoming track A. Tim Zukas ( talk) 17:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Pennsylvania Station (New York City) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RM bot 23:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Does everybody know what types of images are needed in the commons? Some Amtrak trains. Sure, we all know this was an old Pennsylvania Railroad station, but that was when the place was built. Amtrak trains are needed for the commons gallery now, and if you can get them some New Jersey Transit regional railroad trains as well. ---- DanTD ( talk) 04:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering if we should move this to "Newark Penn Station", as the signs say it and on the on-board train announcements. MrTrains227 ( talk) 22:53, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Should other lines be listed in the sidebar section besides the Northeast Corridor? Other lines would certainly include the Raritan Valley Line and North Jersey Coast Line. Perhaps even PATH Newark-WTC, Newark City Subway, and Newark Light Rail deserved to be listed as well. Saxshoe ( talk) 21:55, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) WPscatter t/ c 06:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Pennsylvania Station (Newark) → Newark Penn Station – "Newark Penn Station" provides a natural disambiguation that is also a common name and the official name of the station. My understanding is that the station in Newark is also rarely simply called "Pennsylvania Station" as a result of its proximity to Penn Station in New York. In fact, looking at the sources here, I don't think any of them call the station "Pennsylvania Station". On the talk page there is one person arguing WP:CONSISTENT, but that doesn't make sense given the existence of Baltimore Penn Station and is a very weak argument regardless. :3 F4U ( they /it) 03:19, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | On 12 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Pennsylvania Station (Newark) to Newark Penn Station. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Is the $42 million consruction figure in current dollars or those of the time of construction? - Masspete
At the time of construction. The figure was for the station and related projects though - I've added info about that. -- SPUI ( talk) 06:39, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article include all the information presently on the Newark (PATH station) article? Having two different articles on the same railroad station creates confusion. Someone wanting to look at all the connections he can make, should be able to go to one article to find them all. -- Temlakos 18:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I support a merger. The PATH station is an integral part of Newark Penn. -- CComMack 09:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Support merge. The station serves several rail services, but it is one station. There is no separate PATH station. Bob schwartz 01:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. While it's fine to include more mention about PATH service in Pennsylvania Station (Newark), a separate article should exist for just the PATH station for matter of consistency. I tried combining the two [1], and it breaks the consistent style used for all PATH station articles by having the infobox toward the bottom. - Aude ( talk contribs) 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Support It's one building. The trackage is separate/semi-separate because the power transmission to the trains is different (caternaries vs. 3rd rail). It's still one building. Heck! There're even cross-platform transfers! REwhite 23:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I am proposing merging the articles as mentioned prior into one, as they are physically part of the same station complex. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 08:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone expand on this? Does the arrivals track lead to a yard, which has a return track to Newark Penn? DarkStarHarry ( talk) 00:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know how to change the track diagram? Tracks 1 and A don't split south/west of the station (toward the bottom of the diagram); instead track 2 splits just above the bottom of the diagram into station track 2 and station track 1, with the track that was track 1 south/west of the station becoming track A. Tim Zukas ( talk) 17:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Pennsylvania Station (New York City) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RM bot 23:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Does everybody know what types of images are needed in the commons? Some Amtrak trains. Sure, we all know this was an old Pennsylvania Railroad station, but that was when the place was built. Amtrak trains are needed for the commons gallery now, and if you can get them some New Jersey Transit regional railroad trains as well. ---- DanTD ( talk) 04:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering if we should move this to "Newark Penn Station", as the signs say it and on the on-board train announcements. MrTrains227 ( talk) 22:53, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Should other lines be listed in the sidebar section besides the Northeast Corridor? Other lines would certainly include the Raritan Valley Line and North Jersey Coast Line. Perhaps even PATH Newark-WTC, Newark City Subway, and Newark Light Rail deserved to be listed as well. Saxshoe ( talk) 21:55, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) WPscatter t/ c 06:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Pennsylvania Station (Newark) → Newark Penn Station – "Newark Penn Station" provides a natural disambiguation that is also a common name and the official name of the station. My understanding is that the station in Newark is also rarely simply called "Pennsylvania Station" as a result of its proximity to Penn Station in New York. In fact, looking at the sources here, I don't think any of them call the station "Pennsylvania Station". On the talk page there is one person arguing WP:CONSISTENT, but that doesn't make sense given the existence of Baltimore Penn Station and is a very weak argument regardless. :3 F4U ( they /it) 03:19, 12 July 2023 (UTC)