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If Kiwis (the people) is the colloquial term/nickname for New Zealanders (as stated in the first sentence of each article) then these two articles are about the same thing. Should they not be merged? I think 'New Zealanders' is the most encyclopaedic name (although I feel this could be a common name argument in the making and if a merge is acceptable I will go with consensus). AIRcorn (talk) 13:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I know I may be talking a bunch of lame shit (excuse my language), but could we fit Bruce McLaren into it? He's really another famous New Zealander who isn't a rugby player (no offense). Sorry for the informality, I've had a lack of sleep recently. 24.106.192.178 ( talk) 19:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
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The overseas population needs updating.
Kiwis in Australia have a more recent source.
The number should be
http://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/17nz
Also, where is the number 4.6 million coming from?
I can't find a source for this anywhere! — Preceding
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The infobox describes New Zealanders as predominantly Christian, but this cites an article that clearly shows that New Zealanders are predominantly non-religious. New Zealand is rather unique in this fact, and Wikipedia should reflect the facts. Furthermore, the information on this page should certainly reflect the sources cited.
Is there any reason why this page states something blatantly different from the source it cites?
If not a change should be made.
Xto 999 ( talk) 11:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Further to today's reversal about Scottish immigrants by Matt Lunker, with which I agree, should we separate British immigrants from Irish immigrants? Irrespective of today's, possibly politically correct, preferences, British can refer to the British Isles (which includes Ireland), and if Britain is used to refer to the UK state, when the majority of Irish immigrants came here, they came from within the United Kingdom. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 04:00, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I had thought the simplest solution might be to spell out the four nations involved as coming from the "British Isles" at the start of a section and thereafter using just "British", which would then be less contentious as it had been defined at the beginning. However, that might be clumsy and impractical. There is a case for seperating the various nations in some cases, because some areas were more specifically associated with only one of those nations. For example, Otago was a Scottish settlement, and Canterbury more English (Anglo-Irish perhaps). The same could be said elsewhere outside NZ, eg Scots in Cape Breton, Panama; and the Irish in Boston. The Welsh seem to lag somewhat in this regard, with the exception of Patagonia. But, I don't really have a simple answer to this problem, if one does in fact exist, which I very much doubt. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 11:46, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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If Kiwis (the people) is the colloquial term/nickname for New Zealanders (as stated in the first sentence of each article) then these two articles are about the same thing. Should they not be merged? I think 'New Zealanders' is the most encyclopaedic name (although I feel this could be a common name argument in the making and if a merge is acceptable I will go with consensus). AIRcorn (talk) 13:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I know I may be talking a bunch of lame shit (excuse my language), but could we fit Bruce McLaren into it? He's really another famous New Zealander who isn't a rugby player (no offense). Sorry for the informality, I've had a lack of sleep recently. 24.106.192.178 ( talk) 19:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of New Zealanders's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "statcan":
{{
cite web}}
: Unknown parameter |deadurl=
ignored (|url-status=
suggested) (
help)Reference named "Quickstats":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:57, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of New Zealanders's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "2006quick":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
The overseas population needs updating.
Kiwis in Australia have a more recent source.
The number should be
http://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/17nz
Also, where is the number 4.6 million coming from?
I can't find a source for this anywhere! — Preceding
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08:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
The infobox describes New Zealanders as predominantly Christian, but this cites an article that clearly shows that New Zealanders are predominantly non-religious. New Zealand is rather unique in this fact, and Wikipedia should reflect the facts. Furthermore, the information on this page should certainly reflect the sources cited.
Is there any reason why this page states something blatantly different from the source it cites?
If not a change should be made.
Xto 999 ( talk) 11:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Further to today's reversal about Scottish immigrants by Matt Lunker, with which I agree, should we separate British immigrants from Irish immigrants? Irrespective of today's, possibly politically correct, preferences, British can refer to the British Isles (which includes Ireland), and if Britain is used to refer to the UK state, when the majority of Irish immigrants came here, they came from within the United Kingdom. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 04:00, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I had thought the simplest solution might be to spell out the four nations involved as coming from the "British Isles" at the start of a section and thereafter using just "British", which would then be less contentious as it had been defined at the beginning. However, that might be clumsy and impractical. There is a case for seperating the various nations in some cases, because some areas were more specifically associated with only one of those nations. For example, Otago was a Scottish settlement, and Canterbury more English (Anglo-Irish perhaps). The same could be said elsewhere outside NZ, eg Scots in Cape Breton, Panama; and the Irish in Boston. The Welsh seem to lag somewhat in this regard, with the exception of Patagonia. But, I don't really have a simple answer to this problem, if one does in fact exist, which I very much doubt. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 11:46, 13 January 2019 (UTC)