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How are List MPs called on in the House? Keeperoftheseal 06:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth writing an article about the Leader of the House? Brian | (Talk) 11:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
This article is really about the House of Representatives, not Parliament. I think we should change move this page to New Zealand House of Representatives, and have New Zealand Parliament as a seperate article which discusses the links between the House and the Queen/GovGen (which constitutes Parliament), issues of Parliamentary sovereignty, and so forth. I will leave this for a few days of course to see what other people say. -- Midnight tonight 01:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I propose moving this article to Parliament of New Zealand. The reasons for this are three-fold:
Parliament of New Zealand has only ever been a redirect to this article. Bastin 09:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
The article suggests Labour supported MMP. Is this true? I believe at least Helen Clark was (from memory of an article I read a few days ago) opposed to MMP. I'm guessing Labour itself was either officially neutral or opposed Nil Einne 17:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Has there been any recent talk of reviving the Senate proposal yet, and if so which model are they basing it on? Which Senate model were the original proposals based on? - Daniel Blanchette 00:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
What model was the Senate proposal based on when it was discussed in 1992? Was it something similar to Australian Senate? US Senate? German Bundesrat? The House of Lords? Which one? - Daniel Blanchette 00:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Where would a para on Trivia go?? Hugo999 11:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Eg MP with longest length of service (Rex Mason, c40y), first NZ-born MP, candidates who stood in most electorates at once, candidates who were elected for two electorates simultaneously (George Grey in 1876) etc.
There should be an article on the demographics of NZ Parliament. -- Postbagboy ( talk) 05:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that the date each parliament was opened and dissolved should be added to the table, but I cannot find a source for this information. The articles on each individual parliament has these dates (unsourced), but most of those are redlinks. -- superioridad ( discusión) 10:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
There should be a section about the Maori seats, as this is a unique feature of the NZ electoral system. But I don't know enough about it and don't have the time to go researching. If someone else could add something, that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.152.15 ( talk) 12:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I moved the second template a bit lower (just under the title 'Sovereignty'), so now the article looks far more orderly without that ghastly gap. I hope you'll like it :) -- B. Jankuloski ( talk) 05:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Reading about the recent elections, I also looked around for the formula for converting election results into actual seats in the parliament. I think it definitely merits mention but to someone from the USA (and other countries with simpler, winner-take-all or even different complex formulas), this process is a bit novel and complicated. I believe I have a pretty good grasp of it now ( http://www.elections.org.nz/voting/mmp/sainte-lague.html) but I would still rather someone else more familiar with it add it to the article. Thanks -- Jieagles ( talk) 18:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
These days all one reads in connection with the parliament is the word 'urgency'. Can anyone explain please? The first three pages of the Google search yield nothing useful. Benni B. ( talk) 10:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose: the House of Representatives surely merits its own article, while at least half of the material here at Parliament of New Zealand would be out of place in that article. (Odd, by the way, how no one seems to have taken any notice of the proposed merger in nearly five months!) Moonraker2 ( talk) 17:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC) Oppose: I agree with Moonraker2 above; while New Zealand is unicameral, it has not always been so, and the seperate pages allow a proper seperation of information on Parliament as a whole, the HoR, and the now defunct Legislative Council. It also allows the history of the institution to be properly conveyed, and conveys the constitutional seperation between the HoR and Parliament (which is technically the head of state plus the HoR). -- IdiotSavant ( talk) 11:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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@ Tomiĉo:
If I may be so bold, I'd like to suggest that
is the most appropriate one for the Wikipedia page.
Firstly, this is the same format used in the articles regarding the legislatures of Australia, the U.K., France, Germany, the United States, China, Italy, North Korea, ...
This is because these diagrams do not attempt to perfectly reflect where individual parliamentarians sit in their chambers: this is not the function of these diagrams.
Instead, these diagrams should make it very easy to discern the strengths of the various parties, and in the case of Westminster systems, their roles (Government or Opposition or Crossbench?).
Secondly, the Labour party has been reported as supporting a Labour MP (Trever Mallard) in the role of the speaker, and not a National MP.
Egroeg5 ( talk) 16:04, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Tomiĉo:
Parliament is reduced to 119 members following Andrew Falloon's resignation "effective immediately". [1] He is no longer listed on the Parliament's list of members. [2] Since Falloon was an electorate MP his seat is now vacant.
References
Is there any way we could respect the most correct colors, but change the Maori (or Labour) party colors as laid out in the graphic showing number of seats in the parliament to be more distinct from one another please? Currently they look very similar, both red, and barely a shade different. TY. — Moops ⋠ T⋡ 21:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
By my count there are two independent MP's. One being Elizabeth Kerekere and the other being Meka Whaitiri. -- Spekkios ( talk) 23:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
@ AusYou @ Hazhk. The current seating plan has two vacancies, and that should be reflected in the seating plan. Until the vacant members are sworn in, we should show that. As the Green Party doesn't really have "15 seats" and can only vote with 14 at the present moment. Same with National being down one. Kiwiz1338 ( talk) 04:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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How are List MPs called on in the House? Keeperoftheseal 06:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth writing an article about the Leader of the House? Brian | (Talk) 11:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
This article is really about the House of Representatives, not Parliament. I think we should change move this page to New Zealand House of Representatives, and have New Zealand Parliament as a seperate article which discusses the links between the House and the Queen/GovGen (which constitutes Parliament), issues of Parliamentary sovereignty, and so forth. I will leave this for a few days of course to see what other people say. -- Midnight tonight 01:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I propose moving this article to Parliament of New Zealand. The reasons for this are three-fold:
Parliament of New Zealand has only ever been a redirect to this article. Bastin 09:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
The article suggests Labour supported MMP. Is this true? I believe at least Helen Clark was (from memory of an article I read a few days ago) opposed to MMP. I'm guessing Labour itself was either officially neutral or opposed Nil Einne 17:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Has there been any recent talk of reviving the Senate proposal yet, and if so which model are they basing it on? Which Senate model were the original proposals based on? - Daniel Blanchette 00:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
What model was the Senate proposal based on when it was discussed in 1992? Was it something similar to Australian Senate? US Senate? German Bundesrat? The House of Lords? Which one? - Daniel Blanchette 00:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Where would a para on Trivia go?? Hugo999 11:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Eg MP with longest length of service (Rex Mason, c40y), first NZ-born MP, candidates who stood in most electorates at once, candidates who were elected for two electorates simultaneously (George Grey in 1876) etc.
There should be an article on the demographics of NZ Parliament. -- Postbagboy ( talk) 05:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that the date each parliament was opened and dissolved should be added to the table, but I cannot find a source for this information. The articles on each individual parliament has these dates (unsourced), but most of those are redlinks. -- superioridad ( discusión) 10:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
There should be a section about the Maori seats, as this is a unique feature of the NZ electoral system. But I don't know enough about it and don't have the time to go researching. If someone else could add something, that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.152.15 ( talk) 12:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I moved the second template a bit lower (just under the title 'Sovereignty'), so now the article looks far more orderly without that ghastly gap. I hope you'll like it :) -- B. Jankuloski ( talk) 05:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Reading about the recent elections, I also looked around for the formula for converting election results into actual seats in the parliament. I think it definitely merits mention but to someone from the USA (and other countries with simpler, winner-take-all or even different complex formulas), this process is a bit novel and complicated. I believe I have a pretty good grasp of it now ( http://www.elections.org.nz/voting/mmp/sainte-lague.html) but I would still rather someone else more familiar with it add it to the article. Thanks -- Jieagles ( talk) 18:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
These days all one reads in connection with the parliament is the word 'urgency'. Can anyone explain please? The first three pages of the Google search yield nothing useful. Benni B. ( talk) 10:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose: the House of Representatives surely merits its own article, while at least half of the material here at Parliament of New Zealand would be out of place in that article. (Odd, by the way, how no one seems to have taken any notice of the proposed merger in nearly five months!) Moonraker2 ( talk) 17:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC) Oppose: I agree with Moonraker2 above; while New Zealand is unicameral, it has not always been so, and the seperate pages allow a proper seperation of information on Parliament as a whole, the HoR, and the now defunct Legislative Council. It also allows the history of the institution to be properly conveyed, and conveys the constitutional seperation between the HoR and Parliament (which is technically the head of state plus the HoR). -- IdiotSavant ( talk) 11:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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@ Tomiĉo:
If I may be so bold, I'd like to suggest that
is the most appropriate one for the Wikipedia page.
Firstly, this is the same format used in the articles regarding the legislatures of Australia, the U.K., France, Germany, the United States, China, Italy, North Korea, ...
This is because these diagrams do not attempt to perfectly reflect where individual parliamentarians sit in their chambers: this is not the function of these diagrams.
Instead, these diagrams should make it very easy to discern the strengths of the various parties, and in the case of Westminster systems, their roles (Government or Opposition or Crossbench?).
Secondly, the Labour party has been reported as supporting a Labour MP (Trever Mallard) in the role of the speaker, and not a National MP.
Egroeg5 ( talk) 16:04, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Tomiĉo:
Parliament is reduced to 119 members following Andrew Falloon's resignation "effective immediately". [1] He is no longer listed on the Parliament's list of members. [2] Since Falloon was an electorate MP his seat is now vacant.
References
Is there any way we could respect the most correct colors, but change the Maori (or Labour) party colors as laid out in the graphic showing number of seats in the parliament to be more distinct from one another please? Currently they look very similar, both red, and barely a shade different. TY. — Moops ⋠ T⋡ 21:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
By my count there are two independent MP's. One being Elizabeth Kerekere and the other being Meka Whaitiri. -- Spekkios ( talk) 23:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
@ AusYou @ Hazhk. The current seating plan has two vacancies, and that should be reflected in the seating plan. Until the vacant members are sworn in, we should show that. As the Green Party doesn't really have "15 seats" and can only vote with 14 at the present moment. Same with National being down one. Kiwiz1338 ( talk) 04:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)