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Bastique, can you say why you removed so much material? [1] A lot of it seems to be sourced to regular newspapers. Also, it clearly is a "far right" organization, so what do you see as the problem of calling it that? SlimVirgin (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
So, has this party been officially dissolved? They've joined the Nationalist Alliance, and their website is dead. They also don't seem to be making any noise about running candidates this year, which means they can be dumped in the "historic" bin. -- IdiotSavant ( talk) 04:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
It has been claimed that the NZNF was originally formed in 1968, giving as evidence a statement made by a later member, Kyle Chapman, in an interview [2]. I can find nothing to substantiate that. The Front's own magazine Front line (issue no.1) does not make that claim, but gives a 1977 start. Plus the added contextual evidence for the 1977 origin is the formation of the sister organisations at that time. It is quite reasonable that Brian Thompson was an overseas supporter of the British National Front from 1968 and I have indicated that in my edit, but without evidence there seems no reason to state than an earlier organisation existed. -- JHumphries ( talk) 15:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I have now found a source which comments on late 60's activity. -- JHumphries ( talk) 09:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
What is the purpose of this paragraph? I can't access either source. An assertion based on not finding a mention in a database seems like a violation of WP:NOR. What does McCrone say? Is this really noteworthy? I mean, Wikipedia must have articles on thousands of groups but I've never seen one that has information like this. Unless there's a good reasons for keeping this, I'd be inclined to delete it. Will Beback talk 10:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
A newly registered editor, NZ Socilast, appears to be a member of the organisation this article relates to. They recently edited the infobox in the article to remove information on ideology entirely, saying "Although commonly cited as Neo-Nazi or Racist, we don't stand by these claims".
I've not reverted the edit (though that may be appropriate) but I have marked the article has having been edited by someone with WP:COI and I've left a message on their talk page. HenryCrun15 ( talk) 18:03, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Given the labelling epidemic amongst the left in the West. Is it true that the National Front are NNF as described by Susan Devoy? Why are people concerned about failed ideologies? Ans = identity politics practiced against a background of immigration policies which aim to produce an ethnicless society. In such a society the former majority lose their status as the group that defines the national identity [3]? Which leads us to questions of how governments deal with such groups who speak out against the official narrative? Yonk ( talk) 23:08, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
How are the leaders "federal" (New Zealand isn't a federation). -- HuttValley ( talk) 08:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
They ran as a political party and use the template for a political party and are listed in the Wikipedia project conservatism NZ. Do you have any reason to believe they aren't a political party backed up by credible sources?
Defined here on Wikipedia as
"A political party is an organized group of people who have the same ideology, or who otherwise have the same political positions, and who field candidates for elections, in an attempt to get them elected and thereby implement the party's agenda."
I added the activist group part as they are not entirely seen as just a political party IMO and probably yours too — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganBlade ( talk • contribs)
How about "The New Zealand National Front is a White Nationalist group and ex-political party in New Zealand." @ HenryCrun15: Thanks, ( talk) 07:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it was never a registered political party. See https://elections.nz/media-and-news/2006/national-front-logo-registered-to-appear-on-ballot-papers/ which is about as official a statement you're going to get. It was that the "The Electoral Commission has today (9 February 2006) registered the logo of the New Zealand National Front, an unregistered political party." Stuartyeates ( talk) 10:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Bastique, can you say why you removed so much material? [1] A lot of it seems to be sourced to regular newspapers. Also, it clearly is a "far right" organization, so what do you see as the problem of calling it that? SlimVirgin (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
So, has this party been officially dissolved? They've joined the Nationalist Alliance, and their website is dead. They also don't seem to be making any noise about running candidates this year, which means they can be dumped in the "historic" bin. -- IdiotSavant ( talk) 04:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
It has been claimed that the NZNF was originally formed in 1968, giving as evidence a statement made by a later member, Kyle Chapman, in an interview [2]. I can find nothing to substantiate that. The Front's own magazine Front line (issue no.1) does not make that claim, but gives a 1977 start. Plus the added contextual evidence for the 1977 origin is the formation of the sister organisations at that time. It is quite reasonable that Brian Thompson was an overseas supporter of the British National Front from 1968 and I have indicated that in my edit, but without evidence there seems no reason to state than an earlier organisation existed. -- JHumphries ( talk) 15:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I have now found a source which comments on late 60's activity. -- JHumphries ( talk) 09:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
What is the purpose of this paragraph? I can't access either source. An assertion based on not finding a mention in a database seems like a violation of WP:NOR. What does McCrone say? Is this really noteworthy? I mean, Wikipedia must have articles on thousands of groups but I've never seen one that has information like this. Unless there's a good reasons for keeping this, I'd be inclined to delete it. Will Beback talk 10:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
A newly registered editor, NZ Socilast, appears to be a member of the organisation this article relates to. They recently edited the infobox in the article to remove information on ideology entirely, saying "Although commonly cited as Neo-Nazi or Racist, we don't stand by these claims".
I've not reverted the edit (though that may be appropriate) but I have marked the article has having been edited by someone with WP:COI and I've left a message on their talk page. HenryCrun15 ( talk) 18:03, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Given the labelling epidemic amongst the left in the West. Is it true that the National Front are NNF as described by Susan Devoy? Why are people concerned about failed ideologies? Ans = identity politics practiced against a background of immigration policies which aim to produce an ethnicless society. In such a society the former majority lose their status as the group that defines the national identity [3]? Which leads us to questions of how governments deal with such groups who speak out against the official narrative? Yonk ( talk) 23:08, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
How are the leaders "federal" (New Zealand isn't a federation). -- HuttValley ( talk) 08:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
They ran as a political party and use the template for a political party and are listed in the Wikipedia project conservatism NZ. Do you have any reason to believe they aren't a political party backed up by credible sources?
Defined here on Wikipedia as
"A political party is an organized group of people who have the same ideology, or who otherwise have the same political positions, and who field candidates for elections, in an attempt to get them elected and thereby implement the party's agenda."
I added the activist group part as they are not entirely seen as just a political party IMO and probably yours too — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganBlade ( talk • contribs)
How about "The New Zealand National Front is a White Nationalist group and ex-political party in New Zealand." @ HenryCrun15: Thanks, ( talk) 07:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it was never a registered political party. See https://elections.nz/media-and-news/2006/national-front-logo-registered-to-appear-on-ballot-papers/ which is about as official a statement you're going to get. It was that the "The Electoral Commission has today (9 February 2006) registered the logo of the New Zealand National Front, an unregistered political party." Stuartyeates ( talk) 10:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)