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Can a section be added regarding New York's hydrography ? The section should contain the rivers in New York, and should also mention the proposed New York storm surge barriers. See Against the Deluge: Storm Surge Barriers to Protect New York City. Proposed barriers were:
91.176.7.165 ( talk) 14:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
yes my name is quay and i would like to edit this page what i have to do becuase i got some information that need to be added if not can you add for me ( Quayhands ( talk) 19:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
Indeed, don't projected future sea-level rises threaten to partially submerge large parts of lower Manhattan in particular in the next century or two unless a pretty extensive levee system is constructed - preferably sooner rather than later? Matt2h ( talk) 16:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
While Giovanni da Verrazzano did indeed sail into the Lower New York Bay and land in Brooklyn, he did not pass through the Narrows and did not explore the New York Harbor. He shipped out the next day. It was Robert Juet, first mate of the Half Moon who first documented the 1609 Henry Hudson 1609 voyage. The prominence of the first voyage over the latter is misleading, don't you think? Djflem ( talk) 12:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo#Twin_towns_.E2.80.94_Sister_cities
New York City is listed as one of Oslos twin/sister cities, but Oslo is not on NYC's list. Not recognized by the SCI? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.9.89.133 ( talk) 04:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, You can edit and change from 2008 to 2009 on the top of page and demograpic historical population. It is 8,391,881 in July 1, 2009. Ross Degenstein( talk) -- 208.107.123.63 ( talk) 02:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
So far only NYU and Columbia are listed as the "world class universities of New York City" in the introductory section of the article. It seems to me that the other Ph.D. granting institutions within the five boroughs ought to be added. Fordham University and Rockefeller University especially have substantial international recognition as research universities, as does Yeshiva (particularly their medical school). ( Mpaver217 ( talk) 11:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC))
I didn't see a section or article dealing with wildlife in New York City, which seems surprising. NYC has lots of wildlife which exists in a fairly unique setting (Just for (trivial) example: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/nyregion/23reptile.html)
Have I missed something? Any suggestions where information about NYC wildlife should go? Thanks! David Hollman ( Talk) 12:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
This article states that New York City is the poorest city in America. http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0806em.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.75.25 ( talk) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
we need GDP (PPP) comparisons. GDP per capita in NY / wages are higher than they would otherwise be due heavily to the fact that land and cost of living is high. there are plenty of other lower GDP cities with lower cost of living that would have a GDP-PPP better than New York's. --- 何献龙4993 ( talk) 11:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
ITOMIC ( talk) 18:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC) New York city is definitely not the poorest city in the world the cost of living is high but those in poverty or of working class have many benefits like food stamps,medicaid,subsidized housing and other benefits new york high cost of living only effects the middle class not the rich and poor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmgeorge37 ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
As per http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate.php?location=USNY0996, NYC has an average of 2677 hours of sunshine per year. It is incorrect to take weatherbases 58% of total possible sunshine and multiply out because 58% is simply an average of the 12 months. Of course, the 12 months differ significantly in how much sunshine is possible, with most late spring and summer and least in late fall and winter. In NYC, sunniest months as a percent of total possible happen to be summer months. So if you want to change to number of sunshine to something other than 2677, find a better source than weatherbase. Mishnayd ( talk) 21:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Why does the article start with just New York? For as long as I've been alive it has always been New York City with New York being its nickname. It would be like saying México is the capital of México instead of México City. Correct me if I'm wrong? La Fuzion ( talk) 14:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
My question was not about whether the name is correct or not. What I was getting to is why would the article start with New York instead of its official name which is New York City? If you look at the Mexico City article, it begins "Mexico City ( Spanish: Ciudad de México) is the capital and largest city in the country of Mexico. It does not start with "Mexico"... Does that make sense? La Fuzion ( talk) 16:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
OK fair enough so the article should start "The City of New York..." Agreed? La Fuzion ( talk) 02:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone's upset. No need to get hostile and subject dropped before I get punish. La Fuzion ( talk) 03:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
What you have to do now seems to be nearly impossible (and in my opinion not reasonable), convince a clear preponderance of the folks who concentrate their editing on the state article rather than this one. See this archive page (referred to by a little yellow box at the top right of this one): Talk:New York (state)/Archive 3. The last discussion (I think) was two years ago, so it's not premature to raise the question afresh, but what is a fair and appropriate forum is a different question. We could put the question on the Centralized Discussion template, and create a fresh sub-page of Talk:New York City to accommodate what would be a long digressive debate. Although one might note that the last of the New York state discussions, about the disambiguation that some of us here favour, didn't seem to draw too many "votes" on either side, so it doesn't look like a thumping Consensus or Lack of Consensus. —— Shakescene ( talk) 19:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
From the Charter of the City of New York (as obtained on Westlaw, August 20, 2010):
§ 1 The city.
The city of New York as now existing shall continue with the boundaries and with the powers, rights and property, and subject to the obligations and liabilities which exist at the time when this charter shall take effect.
Note the lowercase c as in "city." That is not a part of the proper name, but merely a reference to the fact that there is a city called "New York."
Alvin P. Bluthman apbluthman@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.56.203 ( talk) 20:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I ran the following Westlaw search in the Charter "(te)city of new york" and found this text in 78 sections. You report that it is capitalized in three. Assuming that soem are mistakes, which are the mistakes, the three or the seventy-five?
Alvin P. Bluthman apbluthman@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.56.203 ( talk) 17:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
What puzzles me is why this discussion is continuing on despite the resolving of the moving issue. I personally despise the appendage of "City" at the end, but we cannot yet break past reasoning. --- 何献龙4993 ( talk) 14:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
See: Talk:New York (state)/Archive 4#Requested move
Is where it says that one of New York's sister cities is "The City of London" correct, or should it just be London? The reference article simply says London. If it is just supposed to be the City of London then the statement underneath the table of sister cities, that "Like New York City, all except Beijing are the most populous cities of their respective countries" is not correct as the City of London has a population of just 8000 people (in a one square mile area). Christopher White 1982 ( talk) 12:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
For what it's worth, out of the many discussions of this subject, here's a lengthy one (and I think the most recent one), in which both I and British Watcher participated: Talk:New York City/Archive 11#Sister Cities London. (I'm leaving this active talk for the moment, because I don't want to crash into a third or fourth edit conflict. I don't have the patience.) —— Shakescene ( talk) 17:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Of the 10 other articles that say they are sister cities of London, all of them simply say London and all that link to an article simply link to London. This page [1] clearly is talking about London as a whole, and not just the City of London and the area it talks about covers the Greater London area(although it does not mention that term within the text), just links to the authority responsible for the wider area. City of London and Greater London are all covered in the London article. London is what needs to be said. It is silly to point to City of london and an article on an administrative sub division Greater London, rather than the actual article on the actual city. If there is no more debate i will be changing it to simply say London. BritishWatcher ( talk) 12:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I find it unfathomable that in this article, not even in the introduction, there is no mentioning that New York City has several nicknames used to refer to the city. New York City is known as "the Big Apple", "Gotham City", and the "city that never sleeps". This is common knowledge, and the city is called by these names by most Americans in every day speech, yet there is no mentioning of NYC's nicknames. Surely the city's nicknames warrant mentioning. Yoganate79 ( talk) 20:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
The Big Apple, Gotham, Center of The Universe, The City That Never Sleeps"
A Request for Comments about changing Bronx's article name to " The Bronx" (or changing it to something else) has now opened. See Talk:Bronx#Request for Comments on renaming "(The) Bronx" (September 2010). If inspired to comment, please read the extensive earlier discussions above this section. Thanks. —— Shakescene ( talk) 02:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
In case anyone isn't already aware, there's a discussion at Talk:New York regarding how that article (the one on the state) should be named, and whether the city, the state or neither should be regarded as primary topic for "New York". Please contribute at the other talk page if you wish.-- Kotniski ( talk) 10:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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24.20.124.29 ( talk) 05:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I find it to be in bad taste that their is a picture of the World Trade Center in flames from 9/11, especially in a section (Geography) where it is irrelevant. I would request that this picture be removed from the article entirely, as there are many more appropriate images of the City. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.179.208 ( talk) 05:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Surely the history section would be clearer, and easier to edit, if it were broken up into subsections either by era or by century? Huw Powell ( talk) 07:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
alex js —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.130.100 ( talk) 23:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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"Under the Köppen climate classification New York City has a humid subtropical climate (Cfa), and using the 0 °C threshold it is the northernmost major city on the continent with such categorization."
Needs to be changed to say:
"Under the Köppen climate classification New York City has a Humid Continental Climate / Warm Summer Continental or Hemiboreal Climateste (Dfb)."
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Humidcontinentalworld2.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humid_continental_climate#Dfb.2FDwb:_Warm_summer_subtype
"Dfb/Dwb/Dsb: Warm summer subtype
Regions with warm summer humid continental climates
The warm summer version of the humid continental climate covers a much larger area than the hot subtype. In North America, the climate zone covers from about 44°N to 50°N latitude mostly east of the 100th meridian. However, it can be found as far north as 54°N, and further west in the Canadian Prairie Provinces and below 40°N in the high Appalachians. In Europe this subtype reaches its most northern latitude at nearly 61°N. Areas featuring this subtype of the continental climate have an average temperature in its warmest month below 22°C. Summer high temperatures in this zone typically average between 21–28 °C (70–82 °F) during the daytime and the average winter temperatures in the coldest month are generally far below the −3 °C (26.6 °F) isotherm.
It includes the following places: Northern, Central and Western New York... ...Albany, New York Rochester, New York Syracuse, New York Buffalo, New York"
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Not done: The problem is that this is the article about New York 'City', not about the state of New York. Note that New York City is not listed anywhere on the page you refer to. It is, however, mentioned on the page Humid subtropical climate. Unless you have a reliable source (a site outside Wikipedia) that identifies NYC as Dfb, then I don't think this should change. Qwyrxian ( talk) 05:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Exactly what is meant by "world-class universities" mentioned in the article lead-in. I noticed someone added Fordham to the list (previously comprising Columbia and NYU). Unless we can decide what constitutes a "world-class" university, chances are people will keeping adding names to the list. This matter needs to be resolved. Avman89 ( talk) 03:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree, this needs to be changed immediately. I'm sorry, but Fordham University is not, by any stretch of the imagination, 'world class'. To be honest, people in the U.S. outside of the New York area have hardly even heard of it. This needs to be changed ASAP to secure the integrity of the article. —Preceding
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As I agree with the two of you, I am going to go ahead and change it to "reputable". Whether Fordham deserves to be included alongside Columbia and NYU is another issue. -- HXL 's Roundtable, and Record 01:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
See http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/nyregion/25census.html ScottyBerg ( talk) 19:07, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
1698 4,937 — 1712 5,840 18.3% 1723 7,248 24.1% 1737 10,664 47.1% 1746 11,717 9.9% 1756 13,046 11.3% 1771 21,863 67.6% 1790 49,401 126.0% 1800 79,216 60.4% 1810 119,734 51.1% 1820 152,056 27.0% 1830 242,278 59.3% 1840 391,114 61.4% 1850 696,115 78.0% 1860 1,174,779 68.8% 1870 1,478,103 25.8% 1880 1,911,698 29.3% 1890 2,507,414 31.2% 1900 3,437,202 37.1% 1910 4,766,883 38.7% 1920 5,620,048 17.9% 1930 6,930,446 23.3% 1940 7,454,995 7.6% 1950 7,891,957 5.9% 1960 7,781,984 −1.4% 1970 7,894,862 1.5% 1980 7,071,639 −10.4% 1990 7,322,564 3.5% 2000 8,008,288 9.4% 2010 8,175,133 2.1%
The information about the population of 2010 is wrong. The right number is somewhere around 8,5 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOE4ce ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
New York's population on July 1, 2009, to be 8,391,881 2000 8,008,288 9.4% 2010 8,175,133 2.1%
The text says that the population in 2009 was 8,391,881 and in 2010 8,175,133. Has the population from 2009-2010 desent, or is the information about the population in 2009 wrong? -I do appologize if my English isn't correct :)- — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOE4ce ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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Should it be mentioned that as many as 4 in 10 Americans have ancestors who came through Ellis Island? That seems like it would be worth mentioning. [2] [3] [4] PShula ( talk) 10:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
As I was reading through the article, I came across this statement: "95.1% of all murder victims and 95.9% of all shooting victims in New York City are black or Hispanic."
While true, I think it's potentially deceptive unless supplied by the fact that these two groups are also the main crime perpetrators, as the statement implies some sort of bias against them. Moreover, i believe that it's not appropriate to lump the two groups together since they have different rates of both crime and victimhood; instead, i propose to give the rates for each separately.-- 69.121.51.151 ( talk) 05:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
What do people think of replacing the image of Lower Manhattan with a more updated image depicting the rise of the new World Trade Center building? Castncoot ( talk) 15:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
In the meantime, any possibility of replacing the bottom two images in the montage with perhaps more "attractive" images? There's a nice nighttime picture of the Brooklyn Bridge with the arches more "face on" and with the nighttime Lower Manhattan skyline in the background in the Brooklyn Bridge article, for example. There's also a nice picture of Koreatown structures in the Koreatown, Manhattan article. Just suggestions, that's all. I think it'll be awhile before the One WTC is topped off. Castncoot ( talk) 07:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
The New York City metropolitan area is home to the largest Jewish community outside Israel, and the city proper contains the largest Jewish community in the world. A bit of a contradiction here? How can the metropolitan area contain the largest Jewish community outside of Israel, yet the city proper contain the largest Jewish community in the world? Something's not right here. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 11:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Out of respect for the other editors and for the system, the following is a discussion about the Stonewall image, caption, and tagged reference which were deleted by two separate editors. It would be remiss to speculate upon their agendas, so let's give these editors the benefit of the doubt instead and deal with the subject matter and the technicalities themselves.
First of all, one editor remarked that the subject was irrelevant. This could not be further from the truth. The Stonewall Rebellion was a sentinel moment and a cry heard around the world for the LGBT community. It was additionally an important milestone in the archives of the history of New York City, which is the topic of this article.
More importantly, the second editor remarked that he has concerns about a potential WP:UNDUE issue. The statement of the caption was not something derived from my own opinion but rather a statement referenced directly from an official U.S. government website, namely that of the United States Department of the Interior's National Park Service. This thereby represents de facto the 300 million constituents of the United States and in no way can be misconstrued as a fringe viewpoint.
Clearly there is enough relevance, importance, and value to the image, caption, and certainly the tagged reference that they belong in the article in a prominent fashion, whether in the lede or adjacent to the National Park System section. And from a technical standpoint, this edit meets WP:NPOV criteria acceptably, for the reasons stated above.
If there is any significant disagreement here, this issue will need to be referred to WP:Administrators, given the gravitas involved. Castncoot ( talk) 09:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
By that line of reasoning, then why even have any pictures at all, save for the absolutely most important icons of the City? Likewise then, does the picture of the historic Battery Weed need to be up there mentioned as a part of the National Park System? That picture doesn't even have the human dimension or significance reflective of any critical mass that the Stonewall picture has. Likewise is true with a number of pics in the article. New York is home to all of the world's cuisines, and natively, there's New York cheesecake, New York steak, Long Island iced tea, etc., yet New York-style pizza is singled out in an image. If WP space is supposedly such a precious commodity, then the Stonewall picture should replace the Battery Weed picture. We can circle round and round endlessly with these arguments. The bottom line is that the Stonewall picture adds significant factual value and human dimension to the article which can be captioned in a constructive way to satisfy a consensus. I feel that we should try to work toward that consensus. Castncoot ( talk) 04:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC) OK, 3 days have passed since the inception of this civilized discussion, and despite ample time and opportunity, there has been no apparent organized opposition against my proposal - so let's give it another try, being open-minded, with an amended caption which I suspect that MOST reasonable people would find to represent a factually neutral and significant historical assessment. Now the same courtesy should be afforded to the side supporting this proposal - at this advanced point, bad faith reversions without discussion will need to be referred to the administrative level. Castncoot ( talk) 12:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
New York City, in addition to having a tremendously used mass transit system, has been recognized as the third most walkable city in the nation. CNBC dubbed the city, with this title, in April 2011. [1] Laurenrose3091 ( talk) 18:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The creation of The New York Community Trust -- New York City's community foundation
1920: Frank J. Parsons, vice president of the United States Mortgage and Trust Company, began speaking about starting a community foundation in New York. In his words, “the charitable problems of each generation can better be solved by the best minds of these generations rather than through the medium of the dead hand of the past.”
1924: The New York Community Trust is founded Parsons invited 20 banks to serve as the Trustees’ Committee, 11 of which adopted the Resolution and Declaration of Trust Creating "The New York Community Trust." Alvin W. Krech, president of the Equitable Trust Company, is chairman of the trustees’ committee. An 11-member distribution committee was then appointed with Thomas Williams as chairman.
Thomas Williams, chairman. Ralph Hayes, director. John Giraud Agar, appointed by the president of the Association of the Bar of the City of New York. Dr. Walter B. James, appointed by the president of the New York Academy of Medicine. Clarence H. Kelsey, appointed by president of the Chamber of Commerce of the State of New York. Judge E. Henry Lacombe, appointed by senior judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Charles J. Peabody, appointed by president of the Brooklyn Institute of Arts and Sciences. Mrs. August Belmont, appointed by Trustees. Homer Folks, appointed by Trustees. Ernest Iselin, appointed by Trustees. Felix M. Warburg, appointed by Trustees.
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What's gone wrong with the "sister cities" section? Text says there are ten, list has eleven items. 79.123.57.130 ( talk) 14:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I believe the statement that NYC is the financial capital of the world to be incorrect; indeed the sources cited for this statement are commonly editorials based on individual events and opinion. When examined by objective studies measuring multiple indices, it is clear that London is the top global financial centre [2], the world's most economically powerful city [3] and the top worldwide centre of commerce [4], ergo the financial capital of the world. It appears that this title has been taken from New York City for quite some time and I am surprised it has not yet been updated on Wikipedia.
-- 95.144.14.174 ( talk) 20:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
This seems to be more opinion than fact. Please submit proof that the London Financial center is larger then NYC. The NY Stock exchange trade nearly 3 times of the London exchange. I would really like to hear the point though, Jacob805 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs) 06:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
The financial centre page on Wikipedia only shows three lists with London on top of each. I am the first to agree that New York very well MAY be the top dog, but as it is at the least contended, the current phrasing is to strong. Some other wording would be better —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.209.73.89 ( talk) 07:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC) I believe the current wording is clearly justified and absolutely verifiable. No reason for change at this time. Castncoot ( talk) 12:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Since a number of people have complained about the montage's Lower Manhattan picture as being bland or unflattering, I decided to make three proposed alternative images and I'm posting them here to get people's opinions. So what does everyone think? I'm willing to try other ideas, but it would be best if you post the actual picture(s) that you want included. -- Jleon ( talk) 16:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
As I answered on my own Talk page, you've done a good job with these - I think #3 is best, followed by #2. If we don't hear vehement oppostion over the next day or two, perhaps we should go ahead and substitute the current image with #3. Castncoot ( talk) 04:47, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I think what UrbanNerd ( talk) is missing is the Empire State Building in the Midtown skyline. In other words, a prominent skyscraper towering over and distinguishable from the rest. Even the Chrysler Building is difficult to discern until looking closely. Perhaps though, Jleon ( talk), you could go ahead and replace the current montage with picture #3 (with a caption such as " Brooklyn Bridge and Lower Manhattan"), and then subsequently explore the possibility of finding another Midtown image. Castncoot ( talk) 05:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that is a very nice image of Lower Manhattan. However, the Brooklyn Bridge is shown but with arches not visualized. Somehow, I still prefer Choice #3 above because of the nighttime view. If there is no significant objection by anybody to replacing the current montage with Choice #3, then I feel we could make this replacement. Castncoot ( talk) 21:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
The new montage looks good, and your suggestion sounds good. Since the East River is narrower than the Hudson River, the Midtown skyline views from Queens tend to be much more impressive than from New Jersey - just a suggestion. Castncoot ( talk) 03:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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In the introductory paragraph, the population of the metro NYC area is stated as 18.6 million. The reference link on the bottom of the page, to the US Census Bureau, states the population of the ENTIRE STATE of New York as 18.6 million. The population of the city itself is 8,391,881 according to [5] This page also lists the 18.6 million figure as relating to the entire state, not just the city.
Ak80girl ( talk) 02:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah, to explain to you, the New York City Metropolitan Area can be defined either as a Metropolitan Statistical Area of approximately 19 million people or as a Combined Statistical Area containing approximately 22 million. In both cases, these entities include population elements from adjacent areas in neighboring states, most significantly New Jersey, and therefore bear no direct relationship to the population figure quoted for the State of New York itself. Hope that answers your question. Castncoot ( talk) 02:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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I believe that the first two sentences of the paragraph talking about the city's land mass are redundant in their wording. They currently state (emphasis mine):
I think they might be better worded as a single sentence such as:
Of course, the "[23][24]" will need to be the appropriate reference sources (taken from the original first sentence). Jthomerson ( talk) 02:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:New York which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RM bot 14:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I believe that one of the major parks in New York City was left out of this article. The park is Forest Park in Queens.
This park has Park Lane South in Richmond Hill as one of its boundaries. It also has a co-op complex within it, consisting of 4 six-story buildings and a guardhouse. The complex is Hampton Court, formerly known as Kent Manor. It is one of the few areas where people are actually living within a park.
I know of this because I live at Hampton Court.
Another famous, but not quite so large park, is Gramercy Park in Manhattan.
Sincerely 207.237.27.98 ( talk) 23:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)Ms. Billie M. Spaight
Hello,
I read the climate saying that winters are cold and damp. Damp means cloudy. NYC has definetely not cloudy winters since more than half of the winter days brings sunshine. If NYC had more than 80% of winter days cloudy, then it might have been considered cloudy. Winters are also not always cold, because same days could be mild and reach 50s and 60s, so it should say usually cold.
Sunshine amount should say 2500 hours (according to the chart), and not between 2400 - 2800 hours or whatever it says on the article. -- New 2012 York ( talk) 22:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Damp, or "slightly wet" is true in every season in NYC, and not only in winter. There are some wet weather year-round, like most other U.S. cities. It should be changed and exclude the word damp.. -- New 2012 York ( talk) 17:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Cut the crap!! New York is COLD in the winter! Anyplace were there is consistent snow on the ground, hats and gloves and scarfs must be worn throughout winter, ice skating outside, and blizzards have been known to shut down the city is termed a cold winter. Who cares if on a rare day the temperature goes to the 50s and 60s. HELLO, that happens in Chicago too during the winter. New York's winter is not like, say Atlanta's, which is kinda cold but not overly cold. And guess what, I'm gonna tell it like it is. From what I've noticed, New York may have an average of 5-10 degrees warmer winter days than Chicago (some days, however, New York could be colder). But what does that matter? Chicago is 26 degrees on a particular day and New York is 32 on the same day. Cold is cold. That doesn't make New York warm just because its WARMER than Chicago on that day. Also New York gets less sunshine than Chicago during the winter (New York has more cloudy days) and more precipitation (rain and snow) than Chicago. So that's the trade off. Anyone who doesn't like being cold in the winter would never say "lets move to New York City". Stop trying to act like New York defies everything logical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 02:26, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I've never heard someone say, "honey, let's move somewhere that has warm winters like Phoenix, Miami, Los Angeles, or New York City". — Preceding
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This article says a lot of thing like the city has the most number of this type of people, or the most number of this type of thing, or the fewest cars owned, etc. But that's misleading. New York City has 8 million people so obviously it should have a higher flat number of things. But on a per capita basis it doesn't lead the nation in everything, and that's what this article is trying to do. For instance, let's make something up. If New York City has 30 museums, this article is written in the vain of... "New York" has the most amount of museums". But lets say a different American city has 14 museums, but a population of 3 million people. Then on a per capita basis New York City does not have the most. But this article leaves things out like that. I love New York, and although it has the highest sheer number of many things (which should be expected because it has 8 million people) it doesn't lead everything on a per capita basis and I think that should be pointed out sometimes. -Also, New Yorkers don't own the least amount of cars because they are so green and care about the environment. Its because its so expensive to live there, such as housing, that car are unaffordable to most people; not to mention the fact that there would be nowhere to park. If house costs and rent were slashed in half, you would see a whole lot more car owners in New York City, so lets not try to imply they are more greener than people in other cities. That's all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 23:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
As mentioned in List of Israeli twin towns and sister cities and in Tel Aviv New York is a sister city of Tel Aviv which is not mentioned in the New York article. Please edit the article and add Tel Aviv to the Sister Cities table. 79.176.39.22 ( talk) 21:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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Skimming over the article, I am very surprised that there is not a photo of the airplanes being slammed into the twin towers of World Trade Center or a photo of Ground Zero. This was a very important period of New York City's history and it just seems odd that besides a brief mentioning of this terrible tragedy, there isn't a photo to highlight just how important 9/11 was. Yoganate79 ( talk) 22:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Agreed: the events of 9/11 heavily influenced New York ever since they occurred. In my opinion a photo like this should be added (I would add it myself if I was autoconfirmed). Level Crossing ( talk) 19:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Done, picture added. Level Crossing ( talk) 03:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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I think there are mistakes on the size of New York City. Overall New York City sizes is around 800 km2 including, the Manhattan, Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/AtiyaDixon.shtml Zuijiadeai ( talk) 15:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
With all due respect, I strongly disagree with the TO DO list suggested by another editor. I believe you can't have such a cookie-cutter recipe for all different types of articles. City and state articles, for example, represent a totally different animal from scientific or biographic articles and need to have a (relatively) longer, stronger, more detailed, and more well-cited lead section. Also, more illustration is absolutely justified in these articles without being mislabeled as galleries. This crucial distinction needs to be recognized and the algorithms for different kinds of Wikipedia articles created in great detail before one editor decides to revamp a longstandingly constructed and consensused article. Castncoot ( talk) 19:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I came here looking for information on NY City's budget and annual expenses, but found nothing. Since NYC is a City-State type munipiciality it would be helpful if some one could add the information to the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilowattradio ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
This article says that the lowest temperature ever recorded in New York City was -15 degrees Fahrenheit. However, in the article Year Without a Summer, there is a sourced mention of temperatures in New York dropping to -26 degrees Farenheit. Which article is correct? Trektosaturday ( talk) 20:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
User Bleff added a new montage to the article's intro. Since changes like this have always been discussed here first, I just thought I should open this up for an informal vote between the previous and current images. So which do people prefer? Personally, I have a slight preference for the previous one, but I'm not exactly impartial since I had created the image myself. -- Jleon ( talk) 15:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I have to admit that I overall prefer the second (current) one, especially the lead skyline picture of Midtown - VERY impressive picture. However, the Brooklyn Bridge picture doesn't show the arches well face-on, which tends to be slightly irksome to me. Castncoot ( talk) 22:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I prefer the first montage's layout but the second montage has much better photos (except the Brooklyn Bridge and the U.N.). My main concern with both montages is that they are predominately Manhattan-based. Powers T 13:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Both have their own strengths. I think the Unisphere picture on the new one is much better, as well as the Statue of Liberty one. The new Midtown Manhattan picture is perhaps lacking in resolution, and the UN Headquarters one is not as imposing as the previous one. The nighttime shot of the Brooklyn Bridge on the previous one was likewise much more impressive and added darker tones to a very daylight-oriented montage. In my opinion we should keep the current one, for the sake of variety, but improvements are always more than welcome, and Midtown Manhattan could definitely use some pixels up there. Good job on both, though.-- AndresTM ( talk) 17:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Is anyone else interested in getting this to good article status or maybe even featured article status again? Since it is one of the most viewed articles on Wikipedia (an average of 20k views a day), it should be the best it can be. If someone could help by pin-pointing all the problems that keep this article from at least a good article status I could get to work right away trying to fix it. But I don't know where to start. Also, how do you get an article re-reviewed for GA status? Cadiomals ( talk) 00:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the picture caption New Amsterdam in 1664, the year Britain took control and renamed it "New York" to New Amsterdam in 1664, the year England took control and renamed it "New York". This is because Britain only came into existence in 1707 by the Act of Union. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_formation_of_the_United_Kingdom
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Cadiomals removed several images to reduce clutter. I believe that some of the images should be restored. In particular the pictures of Citi Field, the U.S. Open, and the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. I believe that these are iconic, and provide better balance to the article. NYCRuss ☎ 12:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
There are too few pictures relating to the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. There is also a consensus that there is clutter in the article. Excluding the montage, this is how it is:
One obvious way to change this would be to add a picture of brownstones in Brooklyn. The problem with that is that all such pictures on Wikipedia are not very good. Here are some pictures (in addition to the one of three bridges posted above) that we might want to consider:
So, how do we make the choice of pictures more representative of the city as a whole, while providing the best encyclopedic value, and without adding clutter? NYCRuss ☎ 14:47, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
I think if we ever want New York City to have a good or featured article, we should probably try modeling it after city articles that do have GA or FA status, which include (just from me looking around) but aren't limited to: Houston, Seattle, Detroit, London, etc. I suggest we try checking out those articles to figure out what puts them at GA or FA status and model this one after them. it may be a good idea. Cadiomals ( talk) 15:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
What does New York City article not have, or missing, and the difference, between the other cities you mentioned? -- Maydin37622 ( talk) 04:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
This was once a Featured Article. It took a huge, enormous effort to raise it to Featured status, including an incredible amount of detail work by User:Alansohn. So, in one sense, the model already exists in earlier versions of this article (accessible through the editing history), at least as much as in articles about other cities. ¶ The reasons the reviewers gave for taking away that status are given in the beige/buff banners at the top of this talk page. One of them is that standards were changed after this article had reached Featured status, so it wasn't something this article's editors had done, rather what had happened in the meantime to WP:Featured Article Criteria. Some of the objections, such as a misunderstanding of accessibility requirements for the use of color in tables, seem a bit misguided or trivial to me. And I've never been keen on excessive insistence on Manual of Style compliance; spend a month on an MoS talk page, and you can see how arbitrary and petty the Manual can sometimes get; criteria which aren't as invitingly handy to use as MoS, such as neutral point of view or reliable sources, are far more important. One comment (there were less than a handful of reviewers) about reliance on the popular press seemed a bit off-point for a subject as dynamic as The City That Never Sleeps; at least some of the supporting material inevitably has to come from current media if this is to be more than a historical/touristic guidebook.
To put in the effort to bring this back up to Featured Article status, I think you'd need the active collaboration of a dozen editors, and at least the passive assent of a dozen more past or present editors whose own work might undergo massive changes. (I'm not suggesting WP:Ownership or the immutability of what already exists, just that gaining consensus and avoiding ugly edit wars or heated talk page debates would make the overall task much easier, less stressful and more pleasant.) It's a good idea, as you're doing right now, to see how much enthusiasm or reluctance exists among current editors; some of them may very well think that other tasks which don't lead directly to Featured Article status are more urgent (e.g. updating or revising statistics or images, or filling in gaps on topics like labor or health care). But don't let all this discourage your interest; it's certainly worth exploring what would be involved in regaining a status this article surely deserves, and learning from open-minded discussion what priorities each of us has (or might be persuaded to adopt). —— Shakescene ( talk) 06:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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Any clear consensus on where New York, New York should re-direct?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Georgia guy ( talk) 22:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
If this article is still far from FA status, I think its at least GA status or pretty darn close. However, I want a couple of people to weigh in before I nominate it. If no one does I'll go on and nominate it anyway, and if it fails we'll go back to fix whatever problems are listed, which I don't think will be a lot for GA criteria. Cadiomals ( talk) 20:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I am seeing this article for the first time, and I think it is excellent! Very educating. So many Afrikaners in South Africa think New York is the centre of the world, even though London is so much closer geographically. I am thinking you should not be adding many more pictures, however. Is there not an expression in America about not fixing what is not cracked, or something like that? MazabukaBloke ( talk) 19:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I moved it to reduce white space. Before. After. NYCRuss ☎ 16:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I removed the picture of Mayor Bloomberg ( before— after) because:
I have another note about something that is kind of misleading, but in the sidebar, where it says "Metro" population, as ~18 million, this also includes Newark. Is it common knowledge that Newark is included in the metro of New York? Because when I read it, I read that new york's metropolitan area is 18 million, and I think, New York city. Not nyc and newark.
Could just be Common knowledge, though... Noah
This says "Kind of misleading II". Where is the original "Kind of misleading"? Let me guess; someone said something about New York City that was not leaning toward the fact that that person will be willing to sell their first born for the city, or was not some type of praise about the city...so of course that had to be deleted. I know you guys, it's New York = positive messages, or don't write anything at all. Uggh! So sickening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 21:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Cheers! Castncoot ( talk) 14:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Can a section be added regarding New York's hydrography ? The section should contain the rivers in New York, and should also mention the proposed New York storm surge barriers. See Against the Deluge: Storm Surge Barriers to Protect New York City. Proposed barriers were:
91.176.7.165 ( talk) 14:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
yes my name is quay and i would like to edit this page what i have to do becuase i got some information that need to be added if not can you add for me ( Quayhands ( talk) 19:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC))
Indeed, don't projected future sea-level rises threaten to partially submerge large parts of lower Manhattan in particular in the next century or two unless a pretty extensive levee system is constructed - preferably sooner rather than later? Matt2h ( talk) 16:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
While Giovanni da Verrazzano did indeed sail into the Lower New York Bay and land in Brooklyn, he did not pass through the Narrows and did not explore the New York Harbor. He shipped out the next day. It was Robert Juet, first mate of the Half Moon who first documented the 1609 Henry Hudson 1609 voyage. The prominence of the first voyage over the latter is misleading, don't you think? Djflem ( talk) 12:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo#Twin_towns_.E2.80.94_Sister_cities
New York City is listed as one of Oslos twin/sister cities, but Oslo is not on NYC's list. Not recognized by the SCI? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.9.89.133 ( talk) 04:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, You can edit and change from 2008 to 2009 on the top of page and demograpic historical population. It is 8,391,881 in July 1, 2009. Ross Degenstein( talk) -- 208.107.123.63 ( talk) 02:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
So far only NYU and Columbia are listed as the "world class universities of New York City" in the introductory section of the article. It seems to me that the other Ph.D. granting institutions within the five boroughs ought to be added. Fordham University and Rockefeller University especially have substantial international recognition as research universities, as does Yeshiva (particularly their medical school). ( Mpaver217 ( talk) 11:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC))
I didn't see a section or article dealing with wildlife in New York City, which seems surprising. NYC has lots of wildlife which exists in a fairly unique setting (Just for (trivial) example: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/nyregion/23reptile.html)
Have I missed something? Any suggestions where information about NYC wildlife should go? Thanks! David Hollman ( Talk) 12:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
This article states that New York City is the poorest city in America. http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0806em.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.75.25 ( talk) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
we need GDP (PPP) comparisons. GDP per capita in NY / wages are higher than they would otherwise be due heavily to the fact that land and cost of living is high. there are plenty of other lower GDP cities with lower cost of living that would have a GDP-PPP better than New York's. --- 何献龙4993 ( talk) 11:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
ITOMIC ( talk) 18:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC) New York city is definitely not the poorest city in the world the cost of living is high but those in poverty or of working class have many benefits like food stamps,medicaid,subsidized housing and other benefits new york high cost of living only effects the middle class not the rich and poor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmgeorge37 ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
As per http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate.php?location=USNY0996, NYC has an average of 2677 hours of sunshine per year. It is incorrect to take weatherbases 58% of total possible sunshine and multiply out because 58% is simply an average of the 12 months. Of course, the 12 months differ significantly in how much sunshine is possible, with most late spring and summer and least in late fall and winter. In NYC, sunniest months as a percent of total possible happen to be summer months. So if you want to change to number of sunshine to something other than 2677, find a better source than weatherbase. Mishnayd ( talk) 21:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Why does the article start with just New York? For as long as I've been alive it has always been New York City with New York being its nickname. It would be like saying México is the capital of México instead of México City. Correct me if I'm wrong? La Fuzion ( talk) 14:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
My question was not about whether the name is correct or not. What I was getting to is why would the article start with New York instead of its official name which is New York City? If you look at the Mexico City article, it begins "Mexico City ( Spanish: Ciudad de México) is the capital and largest city in the country of Mexico. It does not start with "Mexico"... Does that make sense? La Fuzion ( talk) 16:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
OK fair enough so the article should start "The City of New York..." Agreed? La Fuzion ( talk) 02:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone's upset. No need to get hostile and subject dropped before I get punish. La Fuzion ( talk) 03:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
What you have to do now seems to be nearly impossible (and in my opinion not reasonable), convince a clear preponderance of the folks who concentrate their editing on the state article rather than this one. See this archive page (referred to by a little yellow box at the top right of this one): Talk:New York (state)/Archive 3. The last discussion (I think) was two years ago, so it's not premature to raise the question afresh, but what is a fair and appropriate forum is a different question. We could put the question on the Centralized Discussion template, and create a fresh sub-page of Talk:New York City to accommodate what would be a long digressive debate. Although one might note that the last of the New York state discussions, about the disambiguation that some of us here favour, didn't seem to draw too many "votes" on either side, so it doesn't look like a thumping Consensus or Lack of Consensus. —— Shakescene ( talk) 19:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
From the Charter of the City of New York (as obtained on Westlaw, August 20, 2010):
§ 1 The city.
The city of New York as now existing shall continue with the boundaries and with the powers, rights and property, and subject to the obligations and liabilities which exist at the time when this charter shall take effect.
Note the lowercase c as in "city." That is not a part of the proper name, but merely a reference to the fact that there is a city called "New York."
Alvin P. Bluthman apbluthman@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.56.203 ( talk) 20:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I ran the following Westlaw search in the Charter "(te)city of new york" and found this text in 78 sections. You report that it is capitalized in three. Assuming that soem are mistakes, which are the mistakes, the three or the seventy-five?
Alvin P. Bluthman apbluthman@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.56.203 ( talk) 17:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
What puzzles me is why this discussion is continuing on despite the resolving of the moving issue. I personally despise the appendage of "City" at the end, but we cannot yet break past reasoning. --- 何献龙4993 ( talk) 14:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
See: Talk:New York (state)/Archive 4#Requested move
Is where it says that one of New York's sister cities is "The City of London" correct, or should it just be London? The reference article simply says London. If it is just supposed to be the City of London then the statement underneath the table of sister cities, that "Like New York City, all except Beijing are the most populous cities of their respective countries" is not correct as the City of London has a population of just 8000 people (in a one square mile area). Christopher White 1982 ( talk) 12:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
For what it's worth, out of the many discussions of this subject, here's a lengthy one (and I think the most recent one), in which both I and British Watcher participated: Talk:New York City/Archive 11#Sister Cities London. (I'm leaving this active talk for the moment, because I don't want to crash into a third or fourth edit conflict. I don't have the patience.) —— Shakescene ( talk) 17:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Of the 10 other articles that say they are sister cities of London, all of them simply say London and all that link to an article simply link to London. This page [1] clearly is talking about London as a whole, and not just the City of London and the area it talks about covers the Greater London area(although it does not mention that term within the text), just links to the authority responsible for the wider area. City of London and Greater London are all covered in the London article. London is what needs to be said. It is silly to point to City of london and an article on an administrative sub division Greater London, rather than the actual article on the actual city. If there is no more debate i will be changing it to simply say London. BritishWatcher ( talk) 12:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I find it unfathomable that in this article, not even in the introduction, there is no mentioning that New York City has several nicknames used to refer to the city. New York City is known as "the Big Apple", "Gotham City", and the "city that never sleeps". This is common knowledge, and the city is called by these names by most Americans in every day speech, yet there is no mentioning of NYC's nicknames. Surely the city's nicknames warrant mentioning. Yoganate79 ( talk) 20:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
The Big Apple, Gotham, Center of The Universe, The City That Never Sleeps"
A Request for Comments about changing Bronx's article name to " The Bronx" (or changing it to something else) has now opened. See Talk:Bronx#Request for Comments on renaming "(The) Bronx" (September 2010). If inspired to comment, please read the extensive earlier discussions above this section. Thanks. —— Shakescene ( talk) 02:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
In case anyone isn't already aware, there's a discussion at Talk:New York regarding how that article (the one on the state) should be named, and whether the city, the state or neither should be regarded as primary topic for "New York". Please contribute at the other talk page if you wish.-- Kotniski ( talk) 10:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
{{ edit semi-protected}} In first paragraph. GREAT SHOPPING!!
24.20.124.29 ( talk) 05:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I find it to be in bad taste that their is a picture of the World Trade Center in flames from 9/11, especially in a section (Geography) where it is irrelevant. I would request that this picture be removed from the article entirely, as there are many more appropriate images of the City. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.179.208 ( talk) 05:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Surely the history section would be clearer, and easier to edit, if it were broken up into subsections either by era or by century? Huw Powell ( talk) 07:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
alex js —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.130.100 ( talk) 23:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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"Under the Köppen climate classification New York City has a humid subtropical climate (Cfa), and using the 0 °C threshold it is the northernmost major city on the continent with such categorization."
Needs to be changed to say:
"Under the Köppen climate classification New York City has a Humid Continental Climate / Warm Summer Continental or Hemiboreal Climateste (Dfb)."
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Humidcontinentalworld2.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humid_continental_climate#Dfb.2FDwb:_Warm_summer_subtype
"Dfb/Dwb/Dsb: Warm summer subtype
Regions with warm summer humid continental climates
The warm summer version of the humid continental climate covers a much larger area than the hot subtype. In North America, the climate zone covers from about 44°N to 50°N latitude mostly east of the 100th meridian. However, it can be found as far north as 54°N, and further west in the Canadian Prairie Provinces and below 40°N in the high Appalachians. In Europe this subtype reaches its most northern latitude at nearly 61°N. Areas featuring this subtype of the continental climate have an average temperature in its warmest month below 22°C. Summer high temperatures in this zone typically average between 21–28 °C (70–82 °F) during the daytime and the average winter temperatures in the coldest month are generally far below the −3 °C (26.6 °F) isotherm.
It includes the following places: Northern, Central and Western New York... ...Albany, New York Rochester, New York Syracuse, New York Buffalo, New York"
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Not done: The problem is that this is the article about New York 'City', not about the state of New York. Note that New York City is not listed anywhere on the page you refer to. It is, however, mentioned on the page Humid subtropical climate. Unless you have a reliable source (a site outside Wikipedia) that identifies NYC as Dfb, then I don't think this should change. Qwyrxian ( talk) 05:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Exactly what is meant by "world-class universities" mentioned in the article lead-in. I noticed someone added Fordham to the list (previously comprising Columbia and NYU). Unless we can decide what constitutes a "world-class" university, chances are people will keeping adding names to the list. This matter needs to be resolved. Avman89 ( talk) 03:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree, this needs to be changed immediately. I'm sorry, but Fordham University is not, by any stretch of the imagination, 'world class'. To be honest, people in the U.S. outside of the New York area have hardly even heard of it. This needs to be changed ASAP to secure the integrity of the article. —Preceding
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As I agree with the two of you, I am going to go ahead and change it to "reputable". Whether Fordham deserves to be included alongside Columbia and NYU is another issue. -- HXL 's Roundtable, and Record 01:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
See http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/nyregion/25census.html ScottyBerg ( talk) 19:07, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
1698 4,937 — 1712 5,840 18.3% 1723 7,248 24.1% 1737 10,664 47.1% 1746 11,717 9.9% 1756 13,046 11.3% 1771 21,863 67.6% 1790 49,401 126.0% 1800 79,216 60.4% 1810 119,734 51.1% 1820 152,056 27.0% 1830 242,278 59.3% 1840 391,114 61.4% 1850 696,115 78.0% 1860 1,174,779 68.8% 1870 1,478,103 25.8% 1880 1,911,698 29.3% 1890 2,507,414 31.2% 1900 3,437,202 37.1% 1910 4,766,883 38.7% 1920 5,620,048 17.9% 1930 6,930,446 23.3% 1940 7,454,995 7.6% 1950 7,891,957 5.9% 1960 7,781,984 −1.4% 1970 7,894,862 1.5% 1980 7,071,639 −10.4% 1990 7,322,564 3.5% 2000 8,008,288 9.4% 2010 8,175,133 2.1%
The information about the population of 2010 is wrong. The right number is somewhere around 8,5 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOE4ce ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
New York's population on July 1, 2009, to be 8,391,881 2000 8,008,288 9.4% 2010 8,175,133 2.1%
The text says that the population in 2009 was 8,391,881 and in 2010 8,175,133. Has the population from 2009-2010 desent, or is the information about the population in 2009 wrong? -I do appologize if my English isn't correct :)- — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOE4ce ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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Should it be mentioned that as many as 4 in 10 Americans have ancestors who came through Ellis Island? That seems like it would be worth mentioning. [2] [3] [4] PShula ( talk) 10:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
As I was reading through the article, I came across this statement: "95.1% of all murder victims and 95.9% of all shooting victims in New York City are black or Hispanic."
While true, I think it's potentially deceptive unless supplied by the fact that these two groups are also the main crime perpetrators, as the statement implies some sort of bias against them. Moreover, i believe that it's not appropriate to lump the two groups together since they have different rates of both crime and victimhood; instead, i propose to give the rates for each separately.-- 69.121.51.151 ( talk) 05:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
What do people think of replacing the image of Lower Manhattan with a more updated image depicting the rise of the new World Trade Center building? Castncoot ( talk) 15:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
In the meantime, any possibility of replacing the bottom two images in the montage with perhaps more "attractive" images? There's a nice nighttime picture of the Brooklyn Bridge with the arches more "face on" and with the nighttime Lower Manhattan skyline in the background in the Brooklyn Bridge article, for example. There's also a nice picture of Koreatown structures in the Koreatown, Manhattan article. Just suggestions, that's all. I think it'll be awhile before the One WTC is topped off. Castncoot ( talk) 07:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
The New York City metropolitan area is home to the largest Jewish community outside Israel, and the city proper contains the largest Jewish community in the world. A bit of a contradiction here? How can the metropolitan area contain the largest Jewish community outside of Israel, yet the city proper contain the largest Jewish community in the world? Something's not right here. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 11:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Out of respect for the other editors and for the system, the following is a discussion about the Stonewall image, caption, and tagged reference which were deleted by two separate editors. It would be remiss to speculate upon their agendas, so let's give these editors the benefit of the doubt instead and deal with the subject matter and the technicalities themselves.
First of all, one editor remarked that the subject was irrelevant. This could not be further from the truth. The Stonewall Rebellion was a sentinel moment and a cry heard around the world for the LGBT community. It was additionally an important milestone in the archives of the history of New York City, which is the topic of this article.
More importantly, the second editor remarked that he has concerns about a potential WP:UNDUE issue. The statement of the caption was not something derived from my own opinion but rather a statement referenced directly from an official U.S. government website, namely that of the United States Department of the Interior's National Park Service. This thereby represents de facto the 300 million constituents of the United States and in no way can be misconstrued as a fringe viewpoint.
Clearly there is enough relevance, importance, and value to the image, caption, and certainly the tagged reference that they belong in the article in a prominent fashion, whether in the lede or adjacent to the National Park System section. And from a technical standpoint, this edit meets WP:NPOV criteria acceptably, for the reasons stated above.
If there is any significant disagreement here, this issue will need to be referred to WP:Administrators, given the gravitas involved. Castncoot ( talk) 09:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
By that line of reasoning, then why even have any pictures at all, save for the absolutely most important icons of the City? Likewise then, does the picture of the historic Battery Weed need to be up there mentioned as a part of the National Park System? That picture doesn't even have the human dimension or significance reflective of any critical mass that the Stonewall picture has. Likewise is true with a number of pics in the article. New York is home to all of the world's cuisines, and natively, there's New York cheesecake, New York steak, Long Island iced tea, etc., yet New York-style pizza is singled out in an image. If WP space is supposedly such a precious commodity, then the Stonewall picture should replace the Battery Weed picture. We can circle round and round endlessly with these arguments. The bottom line is that the Stonewall picture adds significant factual value and human dimension to the article which can be captioned in a constructive way to satisfy a consensus. I feel that we should try to work toward that consensus. Castncoot ( talk) 04:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC) OK, 3 days have passed since the inception of this civilized discussion, and despite ample time and opportunity, there has been no apparent organized opposition against my proposal - so let's give it another try, being open-minded, with an amended caption which I suspect that MOST reasonable people would find to represent a factually neutral and significant historical assessment. Now the same courtesy should be afforded to the side supporting this proposal - at this advanced point, bad faith reversions without discussion will need to be referred to the administrative level. Castncoot ( talk) 12:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
New York City, in addition to having a tremendously used mass transit system, has been recognized as the third most walkable city in the nation. CNBC dubbed the city, with this title, in April 2011. [1] Laurenrose3091 ( talk) 18:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The creation of The New York Community Trust -- New York City's community foundation
1920: Frank J. Parsons, vice president of the United States Mortgage and Trust Company, began speaking about starting a community foundation in New York. In his words, “the charitable problems of each generation can better be solved by the best minds of these generations rather than through the medium of the dead hand of the past.”
1924: The New York Community Trust is founded Parsons invited 20 banks to serve as the Trustees’ Committee, 11 of which adopted the Resolution and Declaration of Trust Creating "The New York Community Trust." Alvin W. Krech, president of the Equitable Trust Company, is chairman of the trustees’ committee. An 11-member distribution committee was then appointed with Thomas Williams as chairman.
Thomas Williams, chairman. Ralph Hayes, director. John Giraud Agar, appointed by the president of the Association of the Bar of the City of New York. Dr. Walter B. James, appointed by the president of the New York Academy of Medicine. Clarence H. Kelsey, appointed by president of the Chamber of Commerce of the State of New York. Judge E. Henry Lacombe, appointed by senior judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Charles J. Peabody, appointed by president of the Brooklyn Institute of Arts and Sciences. Mrs. August Belmont, appointed by Trustees. Homer Folks, appointed by Trustees. Ernest Iselin, appointed by Trustees. Felix M. Warburg, appointed by Trustees.
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What's gone wrong with the "sister cities" section? Text says there are ten, list has eleven items. 79.123.57.130 ( talk) 14:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I believe the statement that NYC is the financial capital of the world to be incorrect; indeed the sources cited for this statement are commonly editorials based on individual events and opinion. When examined by objective studies measuring multiple indices, it is clear that London is the top global financial centre [2], the world's most economically powerful city [3] and the top worldwide centre of commerce [4], ergo the financial capital of the world. It appears that this title has been taken from New York City for quite some time and I am surprised it has not yet been updated on Wikipedia.
-- 95.144.14.174 ( talk) 20:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
This seems to be more opinion than fact. Please submit proof that the London Financial center is larger then NYC. The NY Stock exchange trade nearly 3 times of the London exchange. I would really like to hear the point though, Jacob805 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs) 06:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
The financial centre page on Wikipedia only shows three lists with London on top of each. I am the first to agree that New York very well MAY be the top dog, but as it is at the least contended, the current phrasing is to strong. Some other wording would be better —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.209.73.89 ( talk) 07:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC) I believe the current wording is clearly justified and absolutely verifiable. No reason for change at this time. Castncoot ( talk) 12:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Since a number of people have complained about the montage's Lower Manhattan picture as being bland or unflattering, I decided to make three proposed alternative images and I'm posting them here to get people's opinions. So what does everyone think? I'm willing to try other ideas, but it would be best if you post the actual picture(s) that you want included. -- Jleon ( talk) 16:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
As I answered on my own Talk page, you've done a good job with these - I think #3 is best, followed by #2. If we don't hear vehement oppostion over the next day or two, perhaps we should go ahead and substitute the current image with #3. Castncoot ( talk) 04:47, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I think what UrbanNerd ( talk) is missing is the Empire State Building in the Midtown skyline. In other words, a prominent skyscraper towering over and distinguishable from the rest. Even the Chrysler Building is difficult to discern until looking closely. Perhaps though, Jleon ( talk), you could go ahead and replace the current montage with picture #3 (with a caption such as " Brooklyn Bridge and Lower Manhattan"), and then subsequently explore the possibility of finding another Midtown image. Castncoot ( talk) 05:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that is a very nice image of Lower Manhattan. However, the Brooklyn Bridge is shown but with arches not visualized. Somehow, I still prefer Choice #3 above because of the nighttime view. If there is no significant objection by anybody to replacing the current montage with Choice #3, then I feel we could make this replacement. Castncoot ( talk) 21:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
The new montage looks good, and your suggestion sounds good. Since the East River is narrower than the Hudson River, the Midtown skyline views from Queens tend to be much more impressive than from New Jersey - just a suggestion. Castncoot ( talk) 03:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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In the introductory paragraph, the population of the metro NYC area is stated as 18.6 million. The reference link on the bottom of the page, to the US Census Bureau, states the population of the ENTIRE STATE of New York as 18.6 million. The population of the city itself is 8,391,881 according to [5] This page also lists the 18.6 million figure as relating to the entire state, not just the city.
Ak80girl ( talk) 02:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah, to explain to you, the New York City Metropolitan Area can be defined either as a Metropolitan Statistical Area of approximately 19 million people or as a Combined Statistical Area containing approximately 22 million. In both cases, these entities include population elements from adjacent areas in neighboring states, most significantly New Jersey, and therefore bear no direct relationship to the population figure quoted for the State of New York itself. Hope that answers your question. Castncoot ( talk) 02:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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I believe that the first two sentences of the paragraph talking about the city's land mass are redundant in their wording. They currently state (emphasis mine):
I think they might be better worded as a single sentence such as:
Of course, the "[23][24]" will need to be the appropriate reference sources (taken from the original first sentence). Jthomerson ( talk) 02:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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I believe that one of the major parks in New York City was left out of this article. The park is Forest Park in Queens.
This park has Park Lane South in Richmond Hill as one of its boundaries. It also has a co-op complex within it, consisting of 4 six-story buildings and a guardhouse. The complex is Hampton Court, formerly known as Kent Manor. It is one of the few areas where people are actually living within a park.
I know of this because I live at Hampton Court.
Another famous, but not quite so large park, is Gramercy Park in Manhattan.
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I read the climate saying that winters are cold and damp. Damp means cloudy. NYC has definetely not cloudy winters since more than half of the winter days brings sunshine. If NYC had more than 80% of winter days cloudy, then it might have been considered cloudy. Winters are also not always cold, because same days could be mild and reach 50s and 60s, so it should say usually cold.
Sunshine amount should say 2500 hours (according to the chart), and not between 2400 - 2800 hours or whatever it says on the article. -- New 2012 York ( talk) 22:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Damp, or "slightly wet" is true in every season in NYC, and not only in winter. There are some wet weather year-round, like most other U.S. cities. It should be changed and exclude the word damp.. -- New 2012 York ( talk) 17:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Cut the crap!! New York is COLD in the winter! Anyplace were there is consistent snow on the ground, hats and gloves and scarfs must be worn throughout winter, ice skating outside, and blizzards have been known to shut down the city is termed a cold winter. Who cares if on a rare day the temperature goes to the 50s and 60s. HELLO, that happens in Chicago too during the winter. New York's winter is not like, say Atlanta's, which is kinda cold but not overly cold. And guess what, I'm gonna tell it like it is. From what I've noticed, New York may have an average of 5-10 degrees warmer winter days than Chicago (some days, however, New York could be colder). But what does that matter? Chicago is 26 degrees on a particular day and New York is 32 on the same day. Cold is cold. That doesn't make New York warm just because its WARMER than Chicago on that day. Also New York gets less sunshine than Chicago during the winter (New York has more cloudy days) and more precipitation (rain and snow) than Chicago. So that's the trade off. Anyone who doesn't like being cold in the winter would never say "lets move to New York City". Stop trying to act like New York defies everything logical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 02:26, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I've never heard someone say, "honey, let's move somewhere that has warm winters like Phoenix, Miami, Los Angeles, or New York City". — Preceding
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This article says a lot of thing like the city has the most number of this type of people, or the most number of this type of thing, or the fewest cars owned, etc. But that's misleading. New York City has 8 million people so obviously it should have a higher flat number of things. But on a per capita basis it doesn't lead the nation in everything, and that's what this article is trying to do. For instance, let's make something up. If New York City has 30 museums, this article is written in the vain of... "New York" has the most amount of museums". But lets say a different American city has 14 museums, but a population of 3 million people. Then on a per capita basis New York City does not have the most. But this article leaves things out like that. I love New York, and although it has the highest sheer number of many things (which should be expected because it has 8 million people) it doesn't lead everything on a per capita basis and I think that should be pointed out sometimes. -Also, New Yorkers don't own the least amount of cars because they are so green and care about the environment. Its because its so expensive to live there, such as housing, that car are unaffordable to most people; not to mention the fact that there would be nowhere to park. If house costs and rent were slashed in half, you would see a whole lot more car owners in New York City, so lets not try to imply they are more greener than people in other cities. That's all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 23:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
As mentioned in List of Israeli twin towns and sister cities and in Tel Aviv New York is a sister city of Tel Aviv which is not mentioned in the New York article. Please edit the article and add Tel Aviv to the Sister Cities table. 79.176.39.22 ( talk) 21:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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Skimming over the article, I am very surprised that there is not a photo of the airplanes being slammed into the twin towers of World Trade Center or a photo of Ground Zero. This was a very important period of New York City's history and it just seems odd that besides a brief mentioning of this terrible tragedy, there isn't a photo to highlight just how important 9/11 was. Yoganate79 ( talk) 22:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Agreed: the events of 9/11 heavily influenced New York ever since they occurred. In my opinion a photo like this should be added (I would add it myself if I was autoconfirmed). Level Crossing ( talk) 19:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Done, picture added. Level Crossing ( talk) 03:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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I think there are mistakes on the size of New York City. Overall New York City sizes is around 800 km2 including, the Manhattan, Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/AtiyaDixon.shtml Zuijiadeai ( talk) 15:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
With all due respect, I strongly disagree with the TO DO list suggested by another editor. I believe you can't have such a cookie-cutter recipe for all different types of articles. City and state articles, for example, represent a totally different animal from scientific or biographic articles and need to have a (relatively) longer, stronger, more detailed, and more well-cited lead section. Also, more illustration is absolutely justified in these articles without being mislabeled as galleries. This crucial distinction needs to be recognized and the algorithms for different kinds of Wikipedia articles created in great detail before one editor decides to revamp a longstandingly constructed and consensused article. Castncoot ( talk) 19:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I came here looking for information on NY City's budget and annual expenses, but found nothing. Since NYC is a City-State type munipiciality it would be helpful if some one could add the information to the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilowattradio ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
This article says that the lowest temperature ever recorded in New York City was -15 degrees Fahrenheit. However, in the article Year Without a Summer, there is a sourced mention of temperatures in New York dropping to -26 degrees Farenheit. Which article is correct? Trektosaturday ( talk) 20:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
User Bleff added a new montage to the article's intro. Since changes like this have always been discussed here first, I just thought I should open this up for an informal vote between the previous and current images. So which do people prefer? Personally, I have a slight preference for the previous one, but I'm not exactly impartial since I had created the image myself. -- Jleon ( talk) 15:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I have to admit that I overall prefer the second (current) one, especially the lead skyline picture of Midtown - VERY impressive picture. However, the Brooklyn Bridge picture doesn't show the arches well face-on, which tends to be slightly irksome to me. Castncoot ( talk) 22:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I prefer the first montage's layout but the second montage has much better photos (except the Brooklyn Bridge and the U.N.). My main concern with both montages is that they are predominately Manhattan-based. Powers T 13:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Both have their own strengths. I think the Unisphere picture on the new one is much better, as well as the Statue of Liberty one. The new Midtown Manhattan picture is perhaps lacking in resolution, and the UN Headquarters one is not as imposing as the previous one. The nighttime shot of the Brooklyn Bridge on the previous one was likewise much more impressive and added darker tones to a very daylight-oriented montage. In my opinion we should keep the current one, for the sake of variety, but improvements are always more than welcome, and Midtown Manhattan could definitely use some pixels up there. Good job on both, though.-- AndresTM ( talk) 17:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Is anyone else interested in getting this to good article status or maybe even featured article status again? Since it is one of the most viewed articles on Wikipedia (an average of 20k views a day), it should be the best it can be. If someone could help by pin-pointing all the problems that keep this article from at least a good article status I could get to work right away trying to fix it. But I don't know where to start. Also, how do you get an article re-reviewed for GA status? Cadiomals ( talk) 00:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the picture caption New Amsterdam in 1664, the year Britain took control and renamed it "New York" to New Amsterdam in 1664, the year England took control and renamed it "New York". This is because Britain only came into existence in 1707 by the Act of Union. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_formation_of_the_United_Kingdom
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Cadiomals removed several images to reduce clutter. I believe that some of the images should be restored. In particular the pictures of Citi Field, the U.S. Open, and the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. I believe that these are iconic, and provide better balance to the article. NYCRuss ☎ 12:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
There are too few pictures relating to the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. There is also a consensus that there is clutter in the article. Excluding the montage, this is how it is:
One obvious way to change this would be to add a picture of brownstones in Brooklyn. The problem with that is that all such pictures on Wikipedia are not very good. Here are some pictures (in addition to the one of three bridges posted above) that we might want to consider:
So, how do we make the choice of pictures more representative of the city as a whole, while providing the best encyclopedic value, and without adding clutter? NYCRuss ☎ 14:47, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
I think if we ever want New York City to have a good or featured article, we should probably try modeling it after city articles that do have GA or FA status, which include (just from me looking around) but aren't limited to: Houston, Seattle, Detroit, London, etc. I suggest we try checking out those articles to figure out what puts them at GA or FA status and model this one after them. it may be a good idea. Cadiomals ( talk) 15:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
What does New York City article not have, or missing, and the difference, between the other cities you mentioned? -- Maydin37622 ( talk) 04:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
This was once a Featured Article. It took a huge, enormous effort to raise it to Featured status, including an incredible amount of detail work by User:Alansohn. So, in one sense, the model already exists in earlier versions of this article (accessible through the editing history), at least as much as in articles about other cities. ¶ The reasons the reviewers gave for taking away that status are given in the beige/buff banners at the top of this talk page. One of them is that standards were changed after this article had reached Featured status, so it wasn't something this article's editors had done, rather what had happened in the meantime to WP:Featured Article Criteria. Some of the objections, such as a misunderstanding of accessibility requirements for the use of color in tables, seem a bit misguided or trivial to me. And I've never been keen on excessive insistence on Manual of Style compliance; spend a month on an MoS talk page, and you can see how arbitrary and petty the Manual can sometimes get; criteria which aren't as invitingly handy to use as MoS, such as neutral point of view or reliable sources, are far more important. One comment (there were less than a handful of reviewers) about reliance on the popular press seemed a bit off-point for a subject as dynamic as The City That Never Sleeps; at least some of the supporting material inevitably has to come from current media if this is to be more than a historical/touristic guidebook.
To put in the effort to bring this back up to Featured Article status, I think you'd need the active collaboration of a dozen editors, and at least the passive assent of a dozen more past or present editors whose own work might undergo massive changes. (I'm not suggesting WP:Ownership or the immutability of what already exists, just that gaining consensus and avoiding ugly edit wars or heated talk page debates would make the overall task much easier, less stressful and more pleasant.) It's a good idea, as you're doing right now, to see how much enthusiasm or reluctance exists among current editors; some of them may very well think that other tasks which don't lead directly to Featured Article status are more urgent (e.g. updating or revising statistics or images, or filling in gaps on topics like labor or health care). But don't let all this discourage your interest; it's certainly worth exploring what would be involved in regaining a status this article surely deserves, and learning from open-minded discussion what priorities each of us has (or might be persuaded to adopt). —— Shakescene ( talk) 06:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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Any clear consensus on where New York, New York should re-direct?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Georgia guy ( talk) 22:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
If this article is still far from FA status, I think its at least GA status or pretty darn close. However, I want a couple of people to weigh in before I nominate it. If no one does I'll go on and nominate it anyway, and if it fails we'll go back to fix whatever problems are listed, which I don't think will be a lot for GA criteria. Cadiomals ( talk) 20:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I am seeing this article for the first time, and I think it is excellent! Very educating. So many Afrikaners in South Africa think New York is the centre of the world, even though London is so much closer geographically. I am thinking you should not be adding many more pictures, however. Is there not an expression in America about not fixing what is not cracked, or something like that? MazabukaBloke ( talk) 19:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I moved it to reduce white space. Before. After. NYCRuss ☎ 16:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I removed the picture of Mayor Bloomberg ( before— after) because:
I have another note about something that is kind of misleading, but in the sidebar, where it says "Metro" population, as ~18 million, this also includes Newark. Is it common knowledge that Newark is included in the metro of New York? Because when I read it, I read that new york's metropolitan area is 18 million, and I think, New York city. Not nyc and newark.
Could just be Common knowledge, though... Noah
This says "Kind of misleading II". Where is the original "Kind of misleading"? Let me guess; someone said something about New York City that was not leaning toward the fact that that person will be willing to sell their first born for the city, or was not some type of praise about the city...so of course that had to be deleted. I know you guys, it's New York = positive messages, or don't write anything at all. Uggh! So sickening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 21:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Cheers! Castncoot ( talk) 14:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)