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Concerns over the content of"Controversy" on "New Westminster Police Department" page
I suggest that the "Controversy" part on the "New Westminster Police Department page" should be removed.
I personally believe that the incident of 3 off-duty police officer has nothing to do with Police Departments. That was the 3 off-duty police officers' personal behaviors.
First, the Police Departments’ managers didn’t tell them to go somewhere to assault somebody. Why Wikipedia always emphasize the NWPD? As if the New Westminster Police Department's Top cop taught him to do that.
Second, the incident happened when they were off duty, in their spare time, which was their personal behaviors.
Third, Police officers are human beings, so it is easily understood that they may have alcohol drink after work. Shouldn’t Police officers make a little mistake only because they are police officers? It is unfair. Police officers are also human beings.
I give you an example. Suppose you are a mother with 3 children, and your 3 children went outside to play. For some reason, they were fighting with other guys. Why they were fighting only with those guys, not others? There must be some reasons. And media always accuse you. Especially Wikipedia emphasizes your name with this incident for 10 more years. People who view Wikipedia all know your name and they all mistakenly think that you are a not good mother who taught your children to have that kind of incident. Did you tell them to do that? Absolutely not. No mother will do that. Then what do you think about Wikipedia??? Do you ask Wikipedia to correct or do you accept it???
In the world, there are many things happen every day. Why doesn't Wikipedia focus on other events? Why does Wikipedia give overladen focus on BC Police Departments?
I can give Wikipedia some suggestions. Wikipedia can focus more on how Marilyn Monroe died, and why Princess Diana died. That entertainment news relating to American former President and British Royal Family are more popular than police officers.
(1) The reason why Marilyn Monroe died is that she slept around two Kennedy.
It is not something related to who was more powerful, it is something related to men's dignity.
(2) The reason why Princess Diana died is that she ruined the image of the Royal Family.
Her behaviors made the Royal Family extremely awkward. She could choose to fight with her rival for Prince Charles, and people would view it as entertainment. However, she chose to give media improper remarks.
I suggest Wikipedia gives more attention to American former President, instead of police. The brilliant image of police officers is helpful for the stability of society.
One most important thing I need to mention is that the New Westminster Police Department is a really good Police Department. The current Chief Constable is a really good person. the officers there are all reasonable and respectful. Previous and current Chief Constables there all make contributions on good training to their officers. This is a fact!!! If only because of a previous staff's a little mistake, make the department has a bad reputation, it is unfair to them!!!!!! I believe that there must be a lot of positive reports relating to them. Why Wikipedia only keep the negative report instead of the positives? KathleenKathleen12345 ( talk) 17:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
I personally believe that the incident of 3 off-duty police officer has nothing to do with Police Departments. That was the 3 off-duty police officers' personal behaviors.
the Police Departments’ managers didn’t tell them to go somewhere to assault somebody. Why Wikipedia always emphasize the NWPD? As if the New Westminster Police Department's Top cop taught him to do that.
the incident happened when they were off duty, in their spare time, which was their personal behaviors.
Police officers are human beings, so it is easily understood that they may have alcohol drink after work. Shouldn’t Police officers make a little mistake only because they are police officers? It is unfair. Police officers are also human beings.
In the world, there are many things happen every day. Why doesn't Wikipedia focus on other events? Why does Wikipedia give overladen focus on BC Police Departments? I can give Wikipedia some suggestions. Wikipedia can focus more on how Marilyn Monroe died, and why Princess Diana died. That entertainment news relating to American former President and British Royal Family are more popular than police officers.
I suggest Wikipedia gives more attention to American former President, instead of police. The brilliant image of police officers is helpful for the stability of society.
The "controversy" section seems pretty big given the size of the article.
Perhaps someone with access to a local public library can expand the article by adding more details about the department's history. For example, HOW was the department affected by the Great Fire of 1898, the bank theft in 1911, etc.?
A section on current and past highly-visible police initiatives would be helpful, as would a brief list of any high-profile investigations that this department led.
Most of the details in the "controversy" section can probably be streamlined. For example, the corresponding section in
West Vancouver Police Department is smaller and less detailed, while keeping all of the references. That said, the September 2019 incident with COI-editing of Wikipedia should stay. As a side-note, I hope whoever it was from the department that ran that account understands the meaning of "
Streissand effect". If they didn't then, they should now.
davidwr/(
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contribs) 16:39, 16 September 2020 (UTC) Updated with strike to correct bad editing, should have removed it before saving.
davidwr/(
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We have reached a consensus for the change in the article. Thank you!!! KathleenKathleen12345 ( talk) 04:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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In September 2019, a Wikipedia user account operated by a member of the department's communications team was blocked after attempting to scrub the department's Wikipedia article of information about two officers (one employed by NWPD) convicted of assaulting and robbing a newspaper deliveryman (and making racist comments in the process) in Vancouver in 2009.
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Concerns over the content of"Controversy" on "New Westminster Police Department" page
I suggest that the "Controversy" part on the "New Westminster Police Department page" should be removed.
I personally believe that the incident of 3 off-duty police officer has nothing to do with Police Departments. That was the 3 off-duty police officers' personal behaviors.
First, the Police Departments’ managers didn’t tell them to go somewhere to assault somebody. Why Wikipedia always emphasize the NWPD? As if the New Westminster Police Department's Top cop taught him to do that.
Second, the incident happened when they were off duty, in their spare time, which was their personal behaviors.
Third, Police officers are human beings, so it is easily understood that they may have alcohol drink after work. Shouldn’t Police officers make a little mistake only because they are police officers? It is unfair. Police officers are also human beings.
I give you an example. Suppose you are a mother with 3 children, and your 3 children went outside to play. For some reason, they were fighting with other guys. Why they were fighting only with those guys, not others? There must be some reasons. And media always accuse you. Especially Wikipedia emphasizes your name with this incident for 10 more years. People who view Wikipedia all know your name and they all mistakenly think that you are a not good mother who taught your children to have that kind of incident. Did you tell them to do that? Absolutely not. No mother will do that. Then what do you think about Wikipedia??? Do you ask Wikipedia to correct or do you accept it???
In the world, there are many things happen every day. Why doesn't Wikipedia focus on other events? Why does Wikipedia give overladen focus on BC Police Departments?
I can give Wikipedia some suggestions. Wikipedia can focus more on how Marilyn Monroe died, and why Princess Diana died. That entertainment news relating to American former President and British Royal Family are more popular than police officers.
(1) The reason why Marilyn Monroe died is that she slept around two Kennedy.
It is not something related to who was more powerful, it is something related to men's dignity.
(2) The reason why Princess Diana died is that she ruined the image of the Royal Family.
Her behaviors made the Royal Family extremely awkward. She could choose to fight with her rival for Prince Charles, and people would view it as entertainment. However, she chose to give media improper remarks.
I suggest Wikipedia gives more attention to American former President, instead of police. The brilliant image of police officers is helpful for the stability of society.
One most important thing I need to mention is that the New Westminster Police Department is a really good Police Department. The current Chief Constable is a really good person. the officers there are all reasonable and respectful. Previous and current Chief Constables there all make contributions on good training to their officers. This is a fact!!! If only because of a previous staff's a little mistake, make the department has a bad reputation, it is unfair to them!!!!!! I believe that there must be a lot of positive reports relating to them. Why Wikipedia only keep the negative report instead of the positives? KathleenKathleen12345 ( talk) 17:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
I personally believe that the incident of 3 off-duty police officer has nothing to do with Police Departments. That was the 3 off-duty police officers' personal behaviors.
the Police Departments’ managers didn’t tell them to go somewhere to assault somebody. Why Wikipedia always emphasize the NWPD? As if the New Westminster Police Department's Top cop taught him to do that.
the incident happened when they were off duty, in their spare time, which was their personal behaviors.
Police officers are human beings, so it is easily understood that they may have alcohol drink after work. Shouldn’t Police officers make a little mistake only because they are police officers? It is unfair. Police officers are also human beings.
In the world, there are many things happen every day. Why doesn't Wikipedia focus on other events? Why does Wikipedia give overladen focus on BC Police Departments? I can give Wikipedia some suggestions. Wikipedia can focus more on how Marilyn Monroe died, and why Princess Diana died. That entertainment news relating to American former President and British Royal Family are more popular than police officers.
I suggest Wikipedia gives more attention to American former President, instead of police. The brilliant image of police officers is helpful for the stability of society.
The "controversy" section seems pretty big given the size of the article.
Perhaps someone with access to a local public library can expand the article by adding more details about the department's history. For example, HOW was the department affected by the Great Fire of 1898, the bank theft in 1911, etc.?
A section on current and past highly-visible police initiatives would be helpful, as would a brief list of any high-profile investigations that this department led.
Most of the details in the "controversy" section can probably be streamlined. For example, the corresponding section in
West Vancouver Police Department is smaller and less detailed, while keeping all of the references. That said, the September 2019 incident with COI-editing of Wikipedia should stay. As a side-note, I hope whoever it was from the department that ran that account understands the meaning of "
Streissand effect". If they didn't then, they should now.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 16:39, 16 September 2020 (UTC) Updated with strike to correct bad editing, should have removed it before saving.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 17:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
We have reached a consensus for the change in the article. Thank you!!! KathleenKathleen12345 ( talk) 04:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Collapse tangential commentay so as to make it less visible and avoid drawing attention to it
|
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In September 2019, a Wikipedia user account operated by a member of the department's communications team was blocked after attempting to scrub the department's Wikipedia article of information about two officers (one employed by NWPD) convicted of assaulting and robbing a newspaper deliveryman (and making racist comments in the process) in Vancouver in 2009.