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Current records listed on here are false, the Texas Giant is no longer a wooden roller coaster, it is a hybrid; so im removing that part of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpshuler ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Should we move this page to New Texas Giant? Xtreme2000 ( talk) 16:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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Themeparkgc Talk 23:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Here we go again. Theme park fans are deleting legitimate, significant WP:WEIGHT material about accidents at a theme park. They are also not getting consensus in Talk. -- Nbauman ( talk) 03:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
This is not a rumor. It's eyewitness testimony by an identified person -- Carmen Brown -- who saw it. It was reported in the Dallas News, and repeated by multiple well-established news outlets which are generally considered to be reliable for statements of fact, which is the criteria of WP:RS. The AP fact-checked the story.
It doesn't matter whether you think the eyewitness is reliable or not, for Wikipedia purposes. What matters is that those reliable sources quoted her.
I don't want to say that the lap bar did or didn't click. I want to repeat what the eyewitness said, as quoted in WP:RSs. You haven't given one good reason for deleting this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-dies-flags-roller-coaster-texas-article-1.1404147
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/21/woman-killed-rollercoaster-fell-police
Early attention was beginning to focus on witnesses’ reports that the woman’s safety restraint may have come undone.
Carmen Brown of Arlington was waiting in line as the victim was being secured in for the ride. She said she believed that the woman’s son was on the ride with her.
Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee that she was not secured correctly in her seat.
“He was basically nonchalant,” Brown said. “He was, like, ‘As long as you heard it click, you’re fine.’ Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn’t feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride.”
-- Nbauman ( talk) 15:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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Current records listed on here are false, the Texas Giant is no longer a wooden roller coaster, it is a hybrid; so im removing that part of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpshuler ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Should we move this page to New Texas Giant? Xtreme2000 ( talk) 16:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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Themeparkgc Talk 23:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Here we go again. Theme park fans are deleting legitimate, significant WP:WEIGHT material about accidents at a theme park. They are also not getting consensus in Talk. -- Nbauman ( talk) 03:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
This is not a rumor. It's eyewitness testimony by an identified person -- Carmen Brown -- who saw it. It was reported in the Dallas News, and repeated by multiple well-established news outlets which are generally considered to be reliable for statements of fact, which is the criteria of WP:RS. The AP fact-checked the story.
It doesn't matter whether you think the eyewitness is reliable or not, for Wikipedia purposes. What matters is that those reliable sources quoted her.
I don't want to say that the lap bar did or didn't click. I want to repeat what the eyewitness said, as quoted in WP:RSs. You haven't given one good reason for deleting this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-dies-flags-roller-coaster-texas-article-1.1404147
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/21/woman-killed-rollercoaster-fell-police
Early attention was beginning to focus on witnesses’ reports that the woman’s safety restraint may have come undone.
Carmen Brown of Arlington was waiting in line as the victim was being secured in for the ride. She said she believed that the woman’s son was on the ride with her.
Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee that she was not secured correctly in her seat.
“He was basically nonchalant,” Brown said. “He was, like, ‘As long as you heard it click, you’re fine.’ Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn’t feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride.”
-- Nbauman ( talk) 15:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
"However, with breaking news, reports are often made without the usual level of background checking, and are often superseded by later reports.
"Reports on breaking news stories can often be driven by a desire to get a "scoop", including less reliable sources or minor details, which would not get included in a less time-critical report. Wikipedia is not driven by a printing deadline, so it is better to wait until details have been clarified than try to track scoops and correct later. Sources from "scoop-based" reports should be treated with caution, especially if the information in question is not repeated in later, less hurried, reports. A newspaper might only have to be "correct enough for today", but Wikipedia should strive for more.
"Editors should be wary of adding too much information based on sources published very shortly after or during a current event, but instead allow time for secondary sources to do research and publish material without time pressure, which should give a broader picture and better impression of what viewpoints are deemed significant."
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