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It's just been released on iTunes. - down load ׀ sign! 22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a big expert of genres, but are sure that the song is Industrial Rock? For me, it's only "alternative rock". :) Darkmastertr ( talk) 12:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I would say that the song is too complex to describe as "alternative rock." I think that maybe, we should try to find a better suit for the song. I am not saying to change it. But to add another genre, a more explanatory one, to the infobox. Genres that come to mind are: Dream pop, New wave revival, Coldwave, Synth rock. Now, these are not the types of music I prefer (I like stuff like Disturbed and Bullet For My Valentine), so I am not an expert on what they sound like. as I have said, Alternative rock is not broad enough to describe this song (in my personal opinion); I would say it better describes stuff like R.E.M., Lostprophets, and Coldplay. Alten hofen 02:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
the guitar is more prominant in New Divide than Breaking the Habit however they are both densly layered with electronics and Chester performs a very melodic vocal style with an upbeat course. i no nothing about coldwave but i don't think industrial rock is that bad of a description, I shied away from it as it had been dismissed in previous descussion. either way synth rock seems like a bad description to me, electronica or Industrial rock are much closer to the mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.46 ( talk) 03:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
omg, I didn't mean that they were alike i ment one should be substituted Synth rock, the guitar can be explained by Alternative rock, I know that there is no way this song could only be described by electronica, I suggested it to be added under Alternative Rock because that genre alone doesn't cover the extent of electronics in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.157 ( talk) 04:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
umm... I know? my appologies thought that you were taking me as meaning as that I *only* wanted electronica listed and not Alternative rock which is not the case.
Mike talks alot about how he wants Linkin Park to be percieved musically, the thing is that what he says is rarely taken into consideration by the majority of websights that review and label their music, as is the case with most artists. I dunno synth rock + linkin park makes me think of shadow of the day and it appears new divide is a bit of a step in a slightly different direction to shadow of the day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.183 ( talk) 02:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
so what? are you gonna start calling this song just 'rock' then? It's ok saying 'Linkin Park is a rock band...' for example but when it comes to listing it in the info box you've gotta used the sub genres otherwise it's vague and misleading —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.55.11 ( talk) 06:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not doing it and though I have been argueing for a substitute for it i wonder if it could be left out all together?, to use Disturbed as an example again 'Inside the Fire' uses electronics yet is only listed as Heavy Metal. Ultimatly I still believe something should used to account for the electronics though as they are more prominant in this than Inside the Fire —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.148 ( talk) 02:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
How about the fact that Synth Rock directs to electronic Rock which includes bands like The Prodigy? Does this song sound anything at all like the Prodigy? Or any other band listed under Synth or Electronic Rock?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.41.52 ( talk) 01:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
the song 'Hurt' by Nine Inch Nails is Industrial Rock, it isn't heavy. Neither is 'Something I Can Never Have', that is also Industrial rock. Not to say that this song sounds alot like those, just that it doesnt have to be that heavy to be industrial rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.154.179 ( talk) 05:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This is one of the stupidest talk pages I've seen. It's not industrial, It's not a "synth-" genre. It's not electronica. It's generic popular modern rock. I guess crappy music means fans with crappy taste which means crappy article writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.223.201 ( talk) 11:45, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
by the way it is no longer number one on itunes.it has been replaced by a band named glee cast.i have changed this but i think it is odd that there is no article on glee cast on wikipedia.and sorry about the comment above this section i didnt notice the new section thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.38.116 ( talk) 14:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Where is your source? Why can't you do it yourself? Sign your coments for gods sake! Alten hofen 17:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
New Divide has been number one on the modern rock tracks for two weeks. Someone please fix this.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsvoltaire ( talk • contribs) 08:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Same thing as above, you can edit this talk page, why can't you fix it yourself? AND SIGN YOUR COMENTS, THIS IS A TALKPAGE, NOT A MESSAGE BOARD!!!! Alten hofen 17:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
This has the makings of a GA. I can feel it. Maybe I'll make it my next goal to bring this up to a GA. I do have higher priorities though, so if anyone has some time on their hands, don't hesitate to expand and improve. Tim meh 03:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a mention of 2 different music videos? The one being sold on iTunes doesn't have any Transformers scenes in it. CollisionCourse ( talk) 12:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
A. I agree the genre changing needs to be Reliably sourced.
B. that source does NOT say Nu Metal, it says Alt Rock/Alt Metal
C. It doesnt really matter because it does not appear to be unreliable.
D. allmusic has the transformers 2 album under Hard Rock, Post-Grunge, Punk-Pop. of these Hard Rock seems most appropriate to this song 143.238.233.15 ( talk) 11:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
This is not rock. Have you any source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.146.180.146 ( talk) 16:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
yeah it has to stay as rock, before that it was being changed pretty much every day Ducky610 ( talk) 09:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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It's just been released on iTunes. - down load ׀ sign! 22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a big expert of genres, but are sure that the song is Industrial Rock? For me, it's only "alternative rock". :) Darkmastertr ( talk) 12:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I would say that the song is too complex to describe as "alternative rock." I think that maybe, we should try to find a better suit for the song. I am not saying to change it. But to add another genre, a more explanatory one, to the infobox. Genres that come to mind are: Dream pop, New wave revival, Coldwave, Synth rock. Now, these are not the types of music I prefer (I like stuff like Disturbed and Bullet For My Valentine), so I am not an expert on what they sound like. as I have said, Alternative rock is not broad enough to describe this song (in my personal opinion); I would say it better describes stuff like R.E.M., Lostprophets, and Coldplay. Alten hofen 02:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
the guitar is more prominant in New Divide than Breaking the Habit however they are both densly layered with electronics and Chester performs a very melodic vocal style with an upbeat course. i no nothing about coldwave but i don't think industrial rock is that bad of a description, I shied away from it as it had been dismissed in previous descussion. either way synth rock seems like a bad description to me, electronica or Industrial rock are much closer to the mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.46 ( talk) 03:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
omg, I didn't mean that they were alike i ment one should be substituted Synth rock, the guitar can be explained by Alternative rock, I know that there is no way this song could only be described by electronica, I suggested it to be added under Alternative Rock because that genre alone doesn't cover the extent of electronics in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.157 ( talk) 04:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
umm... I know? my appologies thought that you were taking me as meaning as that I *only* wanted electronica listed and not Alternative rock which is not the case.
Mike talks alot about how he wants Linkin Park to be percieved musically, the thing is that what he says is rarely taken into consideration by the majority of websights that review and label their music, as is the case with most artists. I dunno synth rock + linkin park makes me think of shadow of the day and it appears new divide is a bit of a step in a slightly different direction to shadow of the day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.183 ( talk) 02:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
so what? are you gonna start calling this song just 'rock' then? It's ok saying 'Linkin Park is a rock band...' for example but when it comes to listing it in the info box you've gotta used the sub genres otherwise it's vague and misleading —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.55.11 ( talk) 06:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not doing it and though I have been argueing for a substitute for it i wonder if it could be left out all together?, to use Disturbed as an example again 'Inside the Fire' uses electronics yet is only listed as Heavy Metal. Ultimatly I still believe something should used to account for the electronics though as they are more prominant in this than Inside the Fire —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.148 ( talk) 02:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
How about the fact that Synth Rock directs to electronic Rock which includes bands like The Prodigy? Does this song sound anything at all like the Prodigy? Or any other band listed under Synth or Electronic Rock?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.41.52 ( talk) 01:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
the song 'Hurt' by Nine Inch Nails is Industrial Rock, it isn't heavy. Neither is 'Something I Can Never Have', that is also Industrial rock. Not to say that this song sounds alot like those, just that it doesnt have to be that heavy to be industrial rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.154.179 ( talk) 05:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This is one of the stupidest talk pages I've seen. It's not industrial, It's not a "synth-" genre. It's not electronica. It's generic popular modern rock. I guess crappy music means fans with crappy taste which means crappy article writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.223.201 ( talk) 11:45, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
by the way it is no longer number one on itunes.it has been replaced by a band named glee cast.i have changed this but i think it is odd that there is no article on glee cast on wikipedia.and sorry about the comment above this section i didnt notice the new section thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.38.116 ( talk) 14:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Where is your source? Why can't you do it yourself? Sign your coments for gods sake! Alten hofen 17:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
New Divide has been number one on the modern rock tracks for two weeks. Someone please fix this.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsvoltaire ( talk • contribs) 08:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Same thing as above, you can edit this talk page, why can't you fix it yourself? AND SIGN YOUR COMENTS, THIS IS A TALKPAGE, NOT A MESSAGE BOARD!!!! Alten hofen 17:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
This has the makings of a GA. I can feel it. Maybe I'll make it my next goal to bring this up to a GA. I do have higher priorities though, so if anyone has some time on their hands, don't hesitate to expand and improve. Tim meh 03:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a mention of 2 different music videos? The one being sold on iTunes doesn't have any Transformers scenes in it. CollisionCourse ( talk) 12:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
A. I agree the genre changing needs to be Reliably sourced.
B. that source does NOT say Nu Metal, it says Alt Rock/Alt Metal
C. It doesnt really matter because it does not appear to be unreliable.
D. allmusic has the transformers 2 album under Hard Rock, Post-Grunge, Punk-Pop. of these Hard Rock seems most appropriate to this song 143.238.233.15 ( talk) 11:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
This is not rock. Have you any source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.146.180.146 ( talk) 16:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
yeah it has to stay as rock, before that it was being changed pretty much every day Ducky610 ( talk) 09:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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