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Would it be better to move this article to lower cased "New age music" and use "new age music" throughout articles? All is One ( talk) 22:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Why not? Neither "new" nor "age" are proper nouns, and per Wikipedia, "Names of musical or literary genres do not require capitalization at all, unless the genre name contains a proper noun such as the name of a place. For example:
Incorrect: They are a Psychedelic Rock band. Correct: They are a psychedelic rock band."
What is the difference between "a Psychedelic Rock band" and "a New Age band"? The capitalization (as with New Wave/new wave) looks outdated and inconsistent. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 14:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
What makes new age so absolutely unique that it requires an exception like this to the accepted capitalization style? Softlavender, you have not responded to my logical argument, but I should also note that the burden of proof falls upon you, as this capitalization goes against Wikipedia rules. I respectfully ask for a debate before I make changes in accordance with those rules. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 13:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
To summarize- the page should be moved to New-age music and "new-age music" should be used in the article. Bhny ( talk) 11:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I think this looks a whole lot more WP:SNOWBALLish when one considers such a move/name-change bridging the New_Age#Music interface, i.e. the place to discuss a move seems to be Talk:New Age (a page that looks featured-article calibre). – Ian, DjScrawl ( talk) 04:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved due to no consensus. Ixfd64 ( talk) 19:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
New-age music → new age music – We do not hyphenate any other genre like this ( new wave music, nu metal, no wave, new school hip hop etc.); the grammatical and disambiguation arguments made for it in the original discussion (which was not done via WP:RM, and so did not represent anyone but a handful of then-present editors of the article) were not very defensible. The hyphenation is actually wrong; new age is a genre/musical movement, not a description. That is, Kitaro is a "new age composer", a composer within the new age movement in music, not a composer of a new age, which is what "new-age composer" means). If one seriously believes a reader might somehow misinterpret new age music as "age music that is new" (?!?), 1) think again, and 2) just link it to this article. As in cases like industrial music and folk music, the word music is present simply as a disambiguator, like dog in German shepherd dog, which we do not write German-shepherd dog. The lower case should be retained; new age music is a general and very wide musical genre, only vaguely and peripherally related to the New Age movement of spiritual philosophy. New age music had its origins there, but has largely plotted its own course since the 1960s. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I notice that, despite the apparent consensus (or lack thereof) documented in the two discussions above at #Possible move and #Requested re-move, that this article title has just been changed (back) to the unhyphenated form with the second word capitalised. Where is the discussion that established a new consensus for this move? I would like to read it.— Jerome Kohl ( talk) 17:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
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Possible good source for early new age history. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/1985/06/01/quiet-new-age-music-finds-respectability/ Anonymous-232 ( talk) 02:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Noting that there isn't much (or anything?) here about the connection bw new age and occultism. By this I mean Wicca, spiritual channeling, etc., of which there are many examples in the genre. Also, I refer to the anti-new age Christian movement. There are dozens of books, records, etc. that warn of the "dangers" of the new age movement. I think it's an important cultural/historical context for this page that's missing. Thoughts? Ceiap ( talk) 15:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Would it be better to move this article to lower cased "New age music" and use "new age music" throughout articles? All is One ( talk) 22:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Why not? Neither "new" nor "age" are proper nouns, and per Wikipedia, "Names of musical or literary genres do not require capitalization at all, unless the genre name contains a proper noun such as the name of a place. For example:
Incorrect: They are a Psychedelic Rock band. Correct: They are a psychedelic rock band."
What is the difference between "a Psychedelic Rock band" and "a New Age band"? The capitalization (as with New Wave/new wave) looks outdated and inconsistent. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 14:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
What makes new age so absolutely unique that it requires an exception like this to the accepted capitalization style? Softlavender, you have not responded to my logical argument, but I should also note that the burden of proof falls upon you, as this capitalization goes against Wikipedia rules. I respectfully ask for a debate before I make changes in accordance with those rules. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 13:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
To summarize- the page should be moved to New-age music and "new-age music" should be used in the article. Bhny ( talk) 11:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I think this looks a whole lot more WP:SNOWBALLish when one considers such a move/name-change bridging the New_Age#Music interface, i.e. the place to discuss a move seems to be Talk:New Age (a page that looks featured-article calibre). – Ian, DjScrawl ( talk) 04:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved due to no consensus. Ixfd64 ( talk) 19:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
New-age music → new age music – We do not hyphenate any other genre like this ( new wave music, nu metal, no wave, new school hip hop etc.); the grammatical and disambiguation arguments made for it in the original discussion (which was not done via WP:RM, and so did not represent anyone but a handful of then-present editors of the article) were not very defensible. The hyphenation is actually wrong; new age is a genre/musical movement, not a description. That is, Kitaro is a "new age composer", a composer within the new age movement in music, not a composer of a new age, which is what "new-age composer" means). If one seriously believes a reader might somehow misinterpret new age music as "age music that is new" (?!?), 1) think again, and 2) just link it to this article. As in cases like industrial music and folk music, the word music is present simply as a disambiguator, like dog in German shepherd dog, which we do not write German-shepherd dog. The lower case should be retained; new age music is a general and very wide musical genre, only vaguely and peripherally related to the New Age movement of spiritual philosophy. New age music had its origins there, but has largely plotted its own course since the 1960s. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I notice that, despite the apparent consensus (or lack thereof) documented in the two discussions above at #Possible move and #Requested re-move, that this article title has just been changed (back) to the unhyphenated form with the second word capitalised. Where is the discussion that established a new consensus for this move? I would like to read it.— Jerome Kohl ( talk) 17:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
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Possible good source for early new age history. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/1985/06/01/quiet-new-age-music-finds-respectability/ Anonymous-232 ( talk) 02:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Noting that there isn't much (or anything?) here about the connection bw new age and occultism. By this I mean Wicca, spiritual channeling, etc., of which there are many examples in the genre. Also, I refer to the anti-new age Christian movement. There are dozens of books, records, etc. that warn of the "dangers" of the new age movement. I think it's an important cultural/historical context for this page that's missing. Thoughts? Ceiap ( talk) 15:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)