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I don't dispute that Netscape is no longer in operation as a separate entity, but I think we need to be careful how we word this in the article. These edits suggest that the company was dissolved in 2017, which is simply not the case. Netscape as a company was not legally dissolved; AOL renamed "Netscape Communications Corporation" to "New Aurora Corporation" (Source: see State of California Secretary of State business filings: click "New Aurora Corporation," and click PDF dated 03/16/2012 titled, "Amended Registration.") The following month, AOL sold the corporation formerly known as Netscape to Microsoft, who in turn sold the company to Facebook, which is why the California Secretary of State filings show Facebook's address as New Aurora Corporation's address. During the sales, AOL retained the Netscape trademarks, which is why AOL continues to use the Netscape brand to market the discount ISP.
So the company is not legally dissolved; it still exist but was renamed and sold and resold and is now a non-operating subsidiary of Facebook. The references that were provided in this edit are to third party aggregators looking at business filings in states where AOL/Microsoft/Facebook either abandoned or withdrew Netscape's local business filing. When a company withdraws their business filing in one state (or even multiple states), it doesn't necessarily mean the company is defunct--in this case, the corporate entity still legally exists in California and Delaware (where it is incorporated). The edits also suggest the company became "brand-only" in 2017; based on the above sources, this actually happened five years earlier (or even up to fourteen years earlier according to the engadget source in the paragraph below).
Based on this, we should be careful about how we word this. It might be better to say something like, "Netscape ceased operations as an operating subsidiary in 2003" (which is what this source (and several other sources from the period) suggests, though it notes that AOL continued to develop the Netscape software internally until 2008), but clarify that with a blurb about the Microsoft/Facebook sale, and AOL's continuing use of the Netscape brand after 2003 into the present. If I'm not busy during the holiday, I can try to make these edits myself. 青い(Aoi) ( talk) 20:00, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 12:41, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't dispute that Netscape is no longer in operation as a separate entity, but I think we need to be careful how we word this in the article. These edits suggest that the company was dissolved in 2017, which is simply not the case. Netscape as a company was not legally dissolved; AOL renamed "Netscape Communications Corporation" to "New Aurora Corporation" (Source: see State of California Secretary of State business filings: click "New Aurora Corporation," and click PDF dated 03/16/2012 titled, "Amended Registration.") The following month, AOL sold the corporation formerly known as Netscape to Microsoft, who in turn sold the company to Facebook, which is why the California Secretary of State filings show Facebook's address as New Aurora Corporation's address. During the sales, AOL retained the Netscape trademarks, which is why AOL continues to use the Netscape brand to market the discount ISP.
So the company is not legally dissolved; it still exist but was renamed and sold and resold and is now a non-operating subsidiary of Facebook. The references that were provided in this edit are to third party aggregators looking at business filings in states where AOL/Microsoft/Facebook either abandoned or withdrew Netscape's local business filing. When a company withdraws their business filing in one state (or even multiple states), it doesn't necessarily mean the company is defunct--in this case, the corporate entity still legally exists in California and Delaware (where it is incorporated). The edits also suggest the company became "brand-only" in 2017; based on the above sources, this actually happened five years earlier (or even up to fourteen years earlier according to the engadget source in the paragraph below).
Based on this, we should be careful about how we word this. It might be better to say something like, "Netscape ceased operations as an operating subsidiary in 2003" (which is what this source (and several other sources from the period) suggests, though it notes that AOL continued to develop the Netscape software internally until 2008), but clarify that with a blurb about the Microsoft/Facebook sale, and AOL's continuing use of the Netscape brand after 2003 into the present. If I'm not busy during the holiday, I can try to make these edits myself. 青い(Aoi) ( talk) 20:00, 19 December 2017 (UTC)