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Should we add a history section this page? There is a lot of information about Nelk missing from the article that does not fit into any of the other sections. Abobeck11 ( talk) 17:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
This section is way too big and is just a list of miscellaneous proseline, some of which is unsourced. Some of this stuff is notable (like the bigger legal cases) and I think should remain but a lot of it needs to be trimmed out. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 06:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm questioning whether Sebastiani should be listed as an official member of the online group (including his name being listed in the infobox). Bergeronpp ( talk) 02:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Consensus is needed on this. I think it’s fair to call them “Canadian-American” because they are headquartered in the US and their members consist of both Canadians and Americans. Abobeck11 ( talk) 04:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
The core identity and members of the group are Canadian, and this is referenced several times in each video. They normally go back and forth across the border for content but due to the current pandemic, they have been unable to. Even when they met President Trump, they were all saying that they shouldn't even be there because they are not American. Therefore, I feel as if the group should be called Canadian. BROSKIYA ( talk) 09:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
An alternative would be to just change the wording completely to “an entertainment group founded in Canada” to avoid any confusion. Abobeck11 ( talk) 22:13, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
My argument was more that they were founded in Canada and that the founding members were Canadian. Further, I don’t think the location of their headquarters indicates that they are American; many celebrities and YouTube groups move to Hollywood when they become famous, which doesn’t erase their national origin or identity. I see your point about them having American members, I just think that at its core, the brand is Canadian, so despite some of the members being American, Nelk, itself, should be referred to as a Canadian group. Ajshul 😃 22:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
::Agreed 100%. Although I think that it should be characterized as a Canadian group, I see the controversy in that characterization; therefore, "Founded in Canada" seems like a better choice of words.
Ajshul
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02:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
NELK's Twitter lists Toronto/Los Angeles. NELK is also categorized under "Canadian YouTubers" and "American YouTubers" Bergeronpp ( talk) 20:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is a summary of knowledge, not a mundane listing of every routine event. Why are users simply adding an synopsis (one sentence paragraphs) to every video their channel uploads onto YouTube. Please read the link I provided above. 2601:18F:900:77E0:414:7C59:EC5:E71F ( talk) 15:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Is Nelk the company, and the Nelk Boys the members? AKA Casey Rollins Talk With Casey 19:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Add in riot during Happy Dad release in San Jose that caused a family business to close and be sued for $25,000.
https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-southgate-liquors-shut-down/ 2601:246:C201:1DF4:4830:C6E5:3FCD:B7A7 ( talk) 18:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
The history section is this article is quite messy and unnecessarily bulky, as was already established in the above discussions. As most of the bulkiness is due to legal issues, and those paragraphs contain the less directly-related content, the obvious way to resolve this, as is done in many larger BLPs, is to create a new section. I am creating a subsection in history titled "Legal issues and controversies". Hillelfrei talk 16:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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Should we add a history section this page? There is a lot of information about Nelk missing from the article that does not fit into any of the other sections. Abobeck11 ( talk) 17:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
This section is way too big and is just a list of miscellaneous proseline, some of which is unsourced. Some of this stuff is notable (like the bigger legal cases) and I think should remain but a lot of it needs to be trimmed out. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 06:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm questioning whether Sebastiani should be listed as an official member of the online group (including his name being listed in the infobox). Bergeronpp ( talk) 02:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Consensus is needed on this. I think it’s fair to call them “Canadian-American” because they are headquartered in the US and their members consist of both Canadians and Americans. Abobeck11 ( talk) 04:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
The core identity and members of the group are Canadian, and this is referenced several times in each video. They normally go back and forth across the border for content but due to the current pandemic, they have been unable to. Even when they met President Trump, they were all saying that they shouldn't even be there because they are not American. Therefore, I feel as if the group should be called Canadian. BROSKIYA ( talk) 09:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
An alternative would be to just change the wording completely to “an entertainment group founded in Canada” to avoid any confusion. Abobeck11 ( talk) 22:13, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
My argument was more that they were founded in Canada and that the founding members were Canadian. Further, I don’t think the location of their headquarters indicates that they are American; many celebrities and YouTube groups move to Hollywood when they become famous, which doesn’t erase their national origin or identity. I see your point about them having American members, I just think that at its core, the brand is Canadian, so despite some of the members being American, Nelk, itself, should be referred to as a Canadian group. Ajshul 😃 22:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
::Agreed 100%. Although I think that it should be characterized as a Canadian group, I see the controversy in that characterization; therefore, "Founded in Canada" seems like a better choice of words.
Ajshul
😃
02:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
NELK's Twitter lists Toronto/Los Angeles. NELK is also categorized under "Canadian YouTubers" and "American YouTubers" Bergeronpp ( talk) 20:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is a summary of knowledge, not a mundane listing of every routine event. Why are users simply adding an synopsis (one sentence paragraphs) to every video their channel uploads onto YouTube. Please read the link I provided above. 2601:18F:900:77E0:414:7C59:EC5:E71F ( talk) 15:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Is Nelk the company, and the Nelk Boys the members? AKA Casey Rollins Talk With Casey 19:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Add in riot during Happy Dad release in San Jose that caused a family business to close and be sued for $25,000.
https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-southgate-liquors-shut-down/ 2601:246:C201:1DF4:4830:C6E5:3FCD:B7A7 ( talk) 18:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
The history section is this article is quite messy and unnecessarily bulky, as was already established in the above discussions. As most of the bulkiness is due to legal issues, and those paragraphs contain the less directly-related content, the obvious way to resolve this, as is done in many larger BLPs, is to create a new section. I am creating a subsection in history titled "Legal issues and controversies". Hillelfrei talk 16:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)