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Before anyone gets to discussing about whether we should discuss the band's break-up, in my opinion we should. There has been a lot happen since blink-182 and there is a lot to cover. Granted, we must cover it quickly, but I believe I've accurately done so here. I'll add more about the band's reformation and more about the side-projects later. -- Thardin12 ( talk), July 15, 2011
Should Neighbourhoods (Blink-182 album) be created to redirect to Neighborhoods (Blink-182 album)? -- 121.216.222.11 ( talk) 21:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The new single is to be " After Midnight". Should this be listed as a single on the album info box/band info box? -- 121.216.222.11 ( talk) 13:33, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Should more release dates be added? for example in Australia, the album release date is September 30, 2011 -- 124.179.37.74 ( talk) 21:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Should the information about the album leak be added? -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 10:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
why has it been deleted? -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 09:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Neighborhoods is the sixth studio album by the American pop punk band Blink-182, tentatively scheduled for release September 27, 2011 through Geffen Records. But on the album information box thing it says Interscope. I know these two labels are merged together now, but this need to be fixed. -- 60.229.178.130 ( talk) 20:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have a source for the track listing? It should probably be deleted until one a source is found. Shadowhanz05 ( talk) 22:51, 15 July 2011
On this page it incorrectly states Track 6 as "Even If She FAILS" when it's actually "Even If She FALLS", as evident in the source provided here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProjectPowerless ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Why were the bonus tracks removed from the track listing section? they are listed in the same source as the main track listing section... -- 58.168.73.125 ( talk) 11:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Here is your source. -- 60.229.178.130 ( talk) 20:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
It does not matter if the track list is sourced or not. Multiple sources could say multiple things about it, with each being true at the time of publication, but still not accurate to whatever the album's final track list will be. This is the reason we have WP:CRYSTAL, and specifically point #5, which says, in part Speculation and rumor, even from reliable sources, are not appropriate encyclopedic content. On this basis I have hidden the track list; it can be corrected (if necessary) and unhidden when the album is released. Please do not restore it -- just wait a bit for the real thing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 16:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
On the Australian iTunes it is available for pre-order. for the standard edition, and the deluxe edition -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 21:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
iTunes has actually started Neighborhoods pre orders for the deluxe addition. The tracks are as follows:
1.Ghost on the Dance Floor 2. Natives 3. Up All Night 4. After Midnight 5. Snake Charmer 6. Heart’s All Gone (Interlude) 7. Heart’s All Gone 8. Wishing Well 9. Kaleidoscope 10. This Is Home 11. MH 4.18.2011 12. Love Is Dangerous 13. Fighting the Gravity 14. Even If She Falls
iTunes seems like a viable source of information, so why can't we make a track listing for the Deluxe Edition at least? -- ProjectPowerless ( talk) 15:22, 13 September 2011
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Neighborhoods Tracklist According to itunes pre-order 1. Ghosts on The Dancefloor 2. Natives 3. Up All Night 4. After Midnight 5. Snake Charmer 6. Hearts All Gone Interlude 7. Hearts All Gone 8. Wishing Well 9. Kaleidascope 10. This Is Home 11. MH 4.18.2011 12. Love Is Dangerous
Deluxe edition tracks
13. Fighting The Gravity 14. Even If She Falls
^ this is the tracklisting for neighborhoods deluxe edition i got it from a uk friend so update it to show people the songs oh and as well as that thats the DELUXE edition itunes has it on its pre orders for irefutable proof of it so update the albums tracklisting
216.241.196.39 ( talk) 19:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Why has the tack listing been removed? it is official now. this can be proved/confirmed by looking at the Australian release. Which was released on September 23, 2011. -- 121.212.142.150 ( talk) 03:16, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Where is the deluxe edition list? it's slightly different from the standard edition. it includes "Snake Charmer", "Heart's All Gone (Interlude)", Fighting the Gravity", and "Even If She Falls". -- 124.183.113.244 ( talk) 04:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I've added a second length to the infobox that says how long the Deluxe Edition is, and it gets deleted, why? ProjectPowerless ( talk) 16:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Where on Billboard.com does it say that Neighborhoods is number 2? The link takes me to a blank page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.235.73.210 ( talk) 15:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone actually seen the standard version of the album on physical CD? I never have. I'm not saying we should remove the standard section of the listing. I'm just asking. -- 124.183.113.244 ( talk) 04:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Anybody have anything on the sales? I know this was a highly anticipated album and I imagine first-day sales or something have been released. DanielDPeterson ( talk) 02:40, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Mark has publicly stated that he recorded "more guitars on this album than on any other". I believe one of these times was on an online Q&A through justin.tv or something like that. Shouldn't he be credited for this? There are videos of him recording the bridge of Kaleidoscope on his Facebook and he even confirmed it himself.-- 98.197.233.161 ( talk) 17:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I see the sample of "Heart's All Gone" is the only one on the page. Shouldn't we be aiming for a more representative sample of the album? I'm pretty sure this song has a lot more of an old-school sound than most of the rest of the album. Tim meh 17:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
The fact that blink-182 sold bundles of the album packaged with a t-shirt and a surprise (that could've been an instrument from the band) seems worth mentioning in the release section of this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.233.222 ( talk) 11:41, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
In the introduction to this page, the article writes "As of October 29, 2011 the album has sold 38,000 copies." According to the section "Chart history" in this article it says that the album has been certified Gold in Australia after having sold 35,000+ copies. So, for this article to be true, the album would've sold only 3,000 copies in the rest of the world. There is absolutely no way this can be the real amount of record sales. Could anyone cast some light on this matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.52.93.206 ( talk) 15:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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it should be edited because a person has the amount of copies sold wrong.they gave information on sales of one week not overall
Alep3 ( talk) 21:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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38,000 is for Germany. Real number is 151k. Source: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/10/05/j-cole-debuts-at-1-blink-182-at-2-on-billboard-200-chart
Please change 38,000 records sold in the first week to 151,000 sold in the first week.
AnimalCrackerr ( talk) 18:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
they released an music vidoe for it isn't it a single — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Should " After Midnight" be listed as second single? It has been charted, and the video is to be released.-- 121.216.40.20 ( talk) 08:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I know this is original research which is why I'm talking about it in the talk page but has their been a reliable source suggesting this album is post-punk? It fuses a lot of influence from The Cure with the new wave keyboards and lyrically some of the album is styled as quite gloomy. Jonjonjohny ( talk) 18:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning album bundle? (if not already mentioned on the article) Source for bundle [10] [11] -- 121.218.201.74 ( talk) 10:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
The article currently ends the lead with "In its first twelve weeks it sold 259,000 copies, much less than the five times platinum Enema of the State of the band's commercial peak..
It's sourced and true and everything... but is that really a fair observation? I mean, albums in general just don't sell like that anymore, between piracy and the advent of single song downloads. Unless you're among a few exceptions like Adele or Glee or something, sales like that aren't expected anymore. It seems to insinuate a sort "failure" on the bands part, where as likely no one involved, or even speculating, would think it would reach those levels in this day and age.
Secondly, even if you disagree with that sentiment, it's Wikipedia policy that the lead isn't supposed to introduce any new ideas, but I'm only seeing the sales info in the lead. So I'd propose perhaps strictly the sales of Neighborhoods were mentioned in the lead, and then the comparison could be mention somewhere in the reception section.
Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 03:33, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, it seems everyone can agree it's not right for the lead. (Technically, it looks like there's consensus to remove outright, with "3 for removal" and "1 neutral", though Illazilla doesn't argue a neutral stance as much as a "keep" stance.) I've moved the more detailed sales information down to a sales section, keeping some vague summary points in the lead. I still say remove it outright, but this is a start at least. Sergecross73 msg me 18:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Before anyone gets to discussing about whether we should discuss the band's break-up, in my opinion we should. There has been a lot happen since blink-182 and there is a lot to cover. Granted, we must cover it quickly, but I believe I've accurately done so here. I'll add more about the band's reformation and more about the side-projects later. -- Thardin12 ( talk), July 15, 2011
Should Neighbourhoods (Blink-182 album) be created to redirect to Neighborhoods (Blink-182 album)? -- 121.216.222.11 ( talk) 21:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The new single is to be " After Midnight". Should this be listed as a single on the album info box/band info box? -- 121.216.222.11 ( talk) 13:33, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Should more release dates be added? for example in Australia, the album release date is September 30, 2011 -- 124.179.37.74 ( talk) 21:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Should the information about the album leak be added? -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 10:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
why has it been deleted? -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 09:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Neighborhoods is the sixth studio album by the American pop punk band Blink-182, tentatively scheduled for release September 27, 2011 through Geffen Records. But on the album information box thing it says Interscope. I know these two labels are merged together now, but this need to be fixed. -- 60.229.178.130 ( talk) 20:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have a source for the track listing? It should probably be deleted until one a source is found. Shadowhanz05 ( talk) 22:51, 15 July 2011
On this page it incorrectly states Track 6 as "Even If She FAILS" when it's actually "Even If She FALLS", as evident in the source provided here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProjectPowerless ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Why were the bonus tracks removed from the track listing section? they are listed in the same source as the main track listing section... -- 58.168.73.125 ( talk) 11:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Here is your source. -- 60.229.178.130 ( talk) 20:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
It does not matter if the track list is sourced or not. Multiple sources could say multiple things about it, with each being true at the time of publication, but still not accurate to whatever the album's final track list will be. This is the reason we have WP:CRYSTAL, and specifically point #5, which says, in part Speculation and rumor, even from reliable sources, are not appropriate encyclopedic content. On this basis I have hidden the track list; it can be corrected (if necessary) and unhidden when the album is released. Please do not restore it -- just wait a bit for the real thing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 16:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
On the Australian iTunes it is available for pre-order. for the standard edition, and the deluxe edition -- 121.212.16.220 ( talk) 21:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
iTunes has actually started Neighborhoods pre orders for the deluxe addition. The tracks are as follows:
1.Ghost on the Dance Floor 2. Natives 3. Up All Night 4. After Midnight 5. Snake Charmer 6. Heart’s All Gone (Interlude) 7. Heart’s All Gone 8. Wishing Well 9. Kaleidoscope 10. This Is Home 11. MH 4.18.2011 12. Love Is Dangerous 13. Fighting the Gravity 14. Even If She Falls
iTunes seems like a viable source of information, so why can't we make a track listing for the Deluxe Edition at least? -- ProjectPowerless ( talk) 15:22, 13 September 2011
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Neighborhoods Tracklist According to itunes pre-order 1. Ghosts on The Dancefloor 2. Natives 3. Up All Night 4. After Midnight 5. Snake Charmer 6. Hearts All Gone Interlude 7. Hearts All Gone 8. Wishing Well 9. Kaleidascope 10. This Is Home 11. MH 4.18.2011 12. Love Is Dangerous
Deluxe edition tracks
13. Fighting The Gravity 14. Even If She Falls
^ this is the tracklisting for neighborhoods deluxe edition i got it from a uk friend so update it to show people the songs oh and as well as that thats the DELUXE edition itunes has it on its pre orders for irefutable proof of it so update the albums tracklisting
216.241.196.39 ( talk) 19:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Why has the tack listing been removed? it is official now. this can be proved/confirmed by looking at the Australian release. Which was released on September 23, 2011. -- 121.212.142.150 ( talk) 03:16, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Where is the deluxe edition list? it's slightly different from the standard edition. it includes "Snake Charmer", "Heart's All Gone (Interlude)", Fighting the Gravity", and "Even If She Falls". -- 124.183.113.244 ( talk) 04:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I've added a second length to the infobox that says how long the Deluxe Edition is, and it gets deleted, why? ProjectPowerless ( talk) 16:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Where on Billboard.com does it say that Neighborhoods is number 2? The link takes me to a blank page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.235.73.210 ( talk) 15:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone actually seen the standard version of the album on physical CD? I never have. I'm not saying we should remove the standard section of the listing. I'm just asking. -- 124.183.113.244 ( talk) 04:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Anybody have anything on the sales? I know this was a highly anticipated album and I imagine first-day sales or something have been released. DanielDPeterson ( talk) 02:40, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Mark has publicly stated that he recorded "more guitars on this album than on any other". I believe one of these times was on an online Q&A through justin.tv or something like that. Shouldn't he be credited for this? There are videos of him recording the bridge of Kaleidoscope on his Facebook and he even confirmed it himself.-- 98.197.233.161 ( talk) 17:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I see the sample of "Heart's All Gone" is the only one on the page. Shouldn't we be aiming for a more representative sample of the album? I'm pretty sure this song has a lot more of an old-school sound than most of the rest of the album. Tim meh 17:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
The fact that blink-182 sold bundles of the album packaged with a t-shirt and a surprise (that could've been an instrument from the band) seems worth mentioning in the release section of this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.233.222 ( talk) 11:41, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
In the introduction to this page, the article writes "As of October 29, 2011 the album has sold 38,000 copies." According to the section "Chart history" in this article it says that the album has been certified Gold in Australia after having sold 35,000+ copies. So, for this article to be true, the album would've sold only 3,000 copies in the rest of the world. There is absolutely no way this can be the real amount of record sales. Could anyone cast some light on this matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.52.93.206 ( talk) 15:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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it should be edited because a person has the amount of copies sold wrong.they gave information on sales of one week not overall
Alep3 ( talk) 21:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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38,000 is for Germany. Real number is 151k. Source: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/10/05/j-cole-debuts-at-1-blink-182-at-2-on-billboard-200-chart
Please change 38,000 records sold in the first week to 151,000 sold in the first week.
AnimalCrackerr ( talk) 18:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
they released an music vidoe for it isn't it a single — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Should " After Midnight" be listed as second single? It has been charted, and the video is to be released.-- 121.216.40.20 ( talk) 08:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I know this is original research which is why I'm talking about it in the talk page but has their been a reliable source suggesting this album is post-punk? It fuses a lot of influence from The Cure with the new wave keyboards and lyrically some of the album is styled as quite gloomy. Jonjonjohny ( talk) 18:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning album bundle? (if not already mentioned on the article) Source for bundle [10] [11] -- 121.218.201.74 ( talk) 10:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
The article currently ends the lead with "In its first twelve weeks it sold 259,000 copies, much less than the five times platinum Enema of the State of the band's commercial peak..
It's sourced and true and everything... but is that really a fair observation? I mean, albums in general just don't sell like that anymore, between piracy and the advent of single song downloads. Unless you're among a few exceptions like Adele or Glee or something, sales like that aren't expected anymore. It seems to insinuate a sort "failure" on the bands part, where as likely no one involved, or even speculating, would think it would reach those levels in this day and age.
Secondly, even if you disagree with that sentiment, it's Wikipedia policy that the lead isn't supposed to introduce any new ideas, but I'm only seeing the sales info in the lead. So I'd propose perhaps strictly the sales of Neighborhoods were mentioned in the lead, and then the comparison could be mention somewhere in the reception section.
Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 03:33, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, it seems everyone can agree it's not right for the lead. (Technically, it looks like there's consensus to remove outright, with "3 for removal" and "1 neutral", though Illazilla doesn't argue a neutral stance as much as a "keep" stance.) I've moved the more detailed sales information down to a sales section, keeping some vague summary points in the lead. I still say remove it outright, but this is a start at least. Sergecross73 msg me 18:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)