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Do you have sources for the recent edits you made at Negro National League (1933–1948)? I'm assuming you do. It might be helpful for you to reference your sources. Zepppep ( talk) 14:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
A recent edit added the word "Washington" into the Washington-Homestead Grays' name. The summary of that edit said "did not even acknowledge 'Homestead' in name when playing in DC in later years".
Having reread the edit, I'm undoing my original reversion of it; I originally read it as having removed "Homestead" from the name "Washington-Homestead". Damn my eyes.
I wish to disagree, however, with the assertion that "Homestead" was not used. A cursory check through ProQuest (covering 1940-1948, when the Grays were still active in the NNL), showed more than 3,000 references to "Homestead Grays" or "Washington Homestead Grays". A more careful analysis shows that the Washington Post almost universally called them throughout that time the "Washington Homestead Grays", while the NYT simply called them the "Homestead Grays". I did spot checks of all the available African-American weeklies (Defender, Amsterdam News, Atlanta Daily World, and the Pittsburgh Courier), and they all referred to the team as either the "Homestead Grays" or the "Washington Homestead Grays", most frequently the former.
My own ongoing and fairly extensive research into the 1942 NAL and NNL seasons almost never finds them named the "Washington Grays", even by the DC dailies; during that season, they played 16 games (regular season) at Griffith Stadium and 11 games in Forbes Field, plus one game in each park during the 1942 Negro World Series. Granted, they drew their largest crowds when playing in DC (and those games got better coverage than the ones in Pittsburgh), but the name "Homestead" stuck with them throughout.
It appears that the Washington newspapers were the only ones that ever called the team the "Washington Grays" and were practically the only ones that didn't generally call them the Homestead Grays. -- Couillaud 14:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
( â†) I must concede that you & Couillaud probably have done more research than I, and have more in-depth sources, so I have some discrepancies to iron out. I have not gone through that book, but it's from 2003, right? So the books I have at my fingertips (Green Cathedrals from 2006 & Holway's Complete Book from 2001) both have 1939 as the season when the DC home games began. As far as Wikipedia goes, a year or so back I went through most team pages and made consistent all of the seasons played -- re: the Grays, I made all of their mentions in WP articles have 1939 as the DC beginning. What to do now? Rgrds. -- 64.85.217.8 ( talk) 14:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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Do you have sources for the recent edits you made at Negro National League (1933–1948)? I'm assuming you do. It might be helpful for you to reference your sources. Zepppep ( talk) 14:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
A recent edit added the word "Washington" into the Washington-Homestead Grays' name. The summary of that edit said "did not even acknowledge 'Homestead' in name when playing in DC in later years".
Having reread the edit, I'm undoing my original reversion of it; I originally read it as having removed "Homestead" from the name "Washington-Homestead". Damn my eyes.
I wish to disagree, however, with the assertion that "Homestead" was not used. A cursory check through ProQuest (covering 1940-1948, when the Grays were still active in the NNL), showed more than 3,000 references to "Homestead Grays" or "Washington Homestead Grays". A more careful analysis shows that the Washington Post almost universally called them throughout that time the "Washington Homestead Grays", while the NYT simply called them the "Homestead Grays". I did spot checks of all the available African-American weeklies (Defender, Amsterdam News, Atlanta Daily World, and the Pittsburgh Courier), and they all referred to the team as either the "Homestead Grays" or the "Washington Homestead Grays", most frequently the former.
My own ongoing and fairly extensive research into the 1942 NAL and NNL seasons almost never finds them named the "Washington Grays", even by the DC dailies; during that season, they played 16 games (regular season) at Griffith Stadium and 11 games in Forbes Field, plus one game in each park during the 1942 Negro World Series. Granted, they drew their largest crowds when playing in DC (and those games got better coverage than the ones in Pittsburgh), but the name "Homestead" stuck with them throughout.
It appears that the Washington newspapers were the only ones that ever called the team the "Washington Grays" and were practically the only ones that didn't generally call them the Homestead Grays. -- Couillaud 14:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
( â†) I must concede that you & Couillaud probably have done more research than I, and have more in-depth sources, so I have some discrepancies to iron out. I have not gone through that book, but it's from 2003, right? So the books I have at my fingertips (Green Cathedrals from 2006 & Holway's Complete Book from 2001) both have 1939 as the season when the DC home games began. As far as Wikipedia goes, a year or so back I went through most team pages and made consistent all of the seasons played -- re: the Grays, I made all of their mentions in WP articles have 1939 as the DC beginning. What to do now? Rgrds. -- 64.85.217.8 ( talk) 14:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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