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Well, as of new-a-days, its been obvious, that whenever you start a page, there's some cop around here deleting everything you have added without adding the proper citation mistakenly. I will request to them, if you really want to contribute to the articles, please find out the proper citation to prove it right, OR prove it wrong along with proper citation obviously. Other ways leave it as is, please.
Its kinda rude to delete information, just the way you can (with a tag "Speculation"). I am not getting no personal attack, but as of working with current topics I have encountered this situations a lots of time. After all everything soothes up, so why take pressures, huh !!!
Use This TALK PAGE to discuss everything you feel is not right to put in the topic, BEFORE deleting and only progress toward deletion if you have positive response to it. Actually we are not racing here, are we? (he he he...)
As of the current state of the article, I think there are some broken references, and some lines are seriously missing citations. If you manage to find out some resource, and unsure to order and organize them properly there in topic, post 'em here.
Have a good Editing time !!! – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 19:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
With the addition of iPod Touch/Phone, how do we specify this in the "Media" section of the infobox? I assume it will be a download? -- Lyverbe ( talk) 17:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
The boxart of the PC version shown is not currently like that. PC games don't have the black bar at the top that says "PC DVD" anymore. Instead, it just says PC DVD ROM on the lower left. This should be updated. -- Blah911 ( talk) 19:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone seen a screenshot of the same truck driving around in Burnout Paradise? It can be seen at the forums. 70.45.160.124 ( talk) 19:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Milian will be the lead female in the game. Here is the fixed ref. [1] Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
References
This site has posted minimum system requirements, but I'm not sure how much it can be trusted. It doesn't provide its source. Shall we add them anyway? anyone know a better source? -- Lyverbe ( talk) 16:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
There are cops mode confirmed like Criminal Scramble mode on the North American EA's store and some places that the game for pre-order not just for the Nintendo DS, but also the PS3, X-Box 360 and PC versions. While the european EA stores and some places that the game listed for pre-order claim that Criminal Scramble only for the Nintendo DS. Chase Down mode will be on the PSP version of the game and Cops N Robbers mode will be on the Wii version as part of the Wii's Party Play mode as a offline mode while for the PS3, X-Box 360 and PC it will be a online mode. About the Criminal Scramble mode for the other consoles and PC I will get further info when its available.
Red Polar Bear Ranger ( Red Polar Bear Ranger 12:33, 31 October 2008 (CUT)
I heard on the official EA NFS forums that Criminal Scramble is a mode (in pretty vague language). I promptly asked whatever the heck a Criminal Scramble mode would be, and did not get an answer. Thanks for your information on this issue! Kenavt ( talk) 01:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
From what I learned Criminal Scramble mode will only be in the DS version while the PC, 360 and PS3 versions get the online versions of the Nintendo Wii's Cops N Robbers mode. However in the console and PC version's career mode there will be some jobs where the player does get to chase bad guys but in their career car though. Of course the PSP version gets Chase Down mode. Of course the cell phone version has no cop modes at all. Red Polar Bear Ranger ( Red Polar Bear Ranger 19:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh come on Xirh, you can't honestly request a 'fact' for the "map size being the biggest in all NFS worlds". It's like asking a 'fact' for someone saying "A bicycle is smaller than a car". Just by looking at the map, it's clear to see that it's bigger than Most Wanted which was then the biggest (wasn't it?). We shouldn't put 'fact' just for the fun of having the dirty text "Citation needed" displayed in an article. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 12:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
There is no proper detail of the game plot unlike previous Need For Speed articles, and there is no "Car" section which gives the list of available cars, these two are one of the most important features of Need For Speed articles on Wikipedia, ProStreet page has the same problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.91.191.4 ( talk) 07:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
During the credits, it's proven that Need For Speed Undercover uses the Havok engine. The heroic driving engine is just one of the features in the game, not the game engine itself. Look it up in the credits, and you'll see it towards the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by APR76 ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Upon playing the game yesterday morning as a Christmas present, I noticed that by taking a look at the in-game map there were striking similarities in each of the zones in Tri-City to the boroughs of Rockport in Need for Speed: Most Wanted. Can we add useful information about the geographical layout and the comparisons to the Most Wanted map that is used in Undercover within the next few months? Brandon ( talk) 06:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm now going to put on the Cars that are within the game. P.S. Yes receiving the Game as a gift (..yay..) Awsome gameplay and storyline. Gaming-Kid 18:49 28 Decemeber 2008 (UTC)
A B C D Marmalaad ( talk) 16:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Why is it these items keep getting deleteted - shouldn't the general public know about these problems. Ngaugekid 12.05 29 Decemeber 2008 (UTC)
This section is constantly being edited and now looks really ugly with all the links and "citation needed". I believe this section has too much detail and it opens up the need to always edit it. We should provide the basic information (a single 3-4 lines paragraph) and the links will take care of the rest by pointing websites that have complete reviews. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 11:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
""You ... run missions where you steal cars, make 'special' deliveries and things like this now and again, but you never actually see any sequences that show how the cops are putting the evidence together or anything of that sort."[citation needed] Instead, "[Chase Lihn] will tell you [what] you need to do to get on the inside of a racing group in order to get dirt on them, and then after a race she'll say 'We have enough, let's move in.' [But you're left asking:] How did that help at all?"[26]"
I added that material and the two sentences I quoted from IGN were on the same page, back to back in fact, which is why I only provided one citation for both. The only reason I split the two sentences up was because it fit better that way. Splew ( talk) 00:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I presume it would be acceptable to cite the game itself for many of the areas that are marked for citation, namely map, damage and police system details. Am I correct? I say so because other notable video game articles like Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty: World at War frequently cite the game itself for details that cannot be verified in any way other than playing the game. Splew ( talk) 00:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
CoD 4 passed FA, so I think it's okay. It's a good idea to use it for the plot, but try not to add a POV. Just try to stick to the main things that happen. It's more likely that gamers have different opinions about the little things. Make sure that the console you're playing the game doesn't have a different plot etc compared to other consoles. If it is, then use a third party source to explain the differences. Since my expansion on the plot of CoD 5, large numbers of people have edited it. I have now removed it from my watchlist and given up checking every single edit. And yes, it is often their experience of what they think the game is showing them. Ironicaly, there were very few edits to the story section when it was just a small paragraph. Now that is looks so big, users feel confident about adding every little detail showed in the game. A few tips for writing from a video game as your reference is to not use the words "many", "lots" or "a lot", as this is your own opinion. The word "some" should never be used. Jolly Ω Janner 19:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
"...one reference per paragraph (if too many are making the article "ugly") making sure that all information in the paragraph pertains to the reference, and a reference for every sentence of different/additional information as needed."- Jack (Talk) 03:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay Spew, my mistake. Sorry about that, I must have misunderstood what you were saying. Anyways, now that a consensus has been reached I guess this topic is closed.- Jack (Talk) 22:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha indeed they are. Well until someone can be "bothered" implementing what we have decided on then I guess they will stay there.- Jack (Talk) 23:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Me either. I guess Splew can do it :P.- Jack (Talk) 23:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Why shouldn't the reference section be as big as the article? There certainly is nothing wrong with that. At the worst, it just makes it more verifiable. By the way, if you have such a hate for the article's look maybe you should do it cause to me that is logical. However, if you ask me nicely I will fix the entire article at the expense of my time.- Jack (Talk) 01:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Can you explain what you mean in some more detail please?- Jack (Talk) 07:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I know the policy except people have been arguing against it: it makes the article "ugly"; it wasn't "appropriate" etc. So someone gave an idea/opinion and people agreed with it, now it is just a matter of implementing it. Don't get me wrong I'm all for WP:V, but you should address the points people made earlier directly so all relevant people have a better idea what they are doing wrong and what policy is.- Jack (Talk) 07:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Good point. I guess the article will stay as it is then.- Jack (Talk) 08:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I also removed the part saying that Undercover "has the largest open world map that EA has ever created". I've not seen any sources saying that and it can't be verified by game experience, so I think there is no way to verify it. Splew ( talk) 00:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Can we have more images, please??
well add it MaxFinkerBerg1945-2018 ( talk) 12:27, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Good article criteria
Unfortunately I have to Quick-Fail this article. However given some updates feel free to renominate it.
Reviewer: Teancum ( talk) 18:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I have uploaded the new version of the file, as the existing lacks the EA logo at the bottom. The new image is from the website http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2833552640/tt1264900. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskhh ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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Name's members Marmalaad ( talk) 16:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
EA created a web site to promote Undercover, https://whicroadtotake.com, which can still be accessed via internet archive, but won't work due to requiring flash player. It showed an interrogation room, and clicking on objects in the room would bring up videos that included characters from the game. Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
EA also made a series of videos called Take Down, also promoting Undercover. It's since been combined into a single video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY0rOZK5UlA Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
On the game DVD, there's a promotional video for the Nissan 370Z: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eMXceuj-8 Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Well, as of new-a-days, its been obvious, that whenever you start a page, there's some cop around here deleting everything you have added without adding the proper citation mistakenly. I will request to them, if you really want to contribute to the articles, please find out the proper citation to prove it right, OR prove it wrong along with proper citation obviously. Other ways leave it as is, please.
Its kinda rude to delete information, just the way you can (with a tag "Speculation"). I am not getting no personal attack, but as of working with current topics I have encountered this situations a lots of time. After all everything soothes up, so why take pressures, huh !!!
Use This TALK PAGE to discuss everything you feel is not right to put in the topic, BEFORE deleting and only progress toward deletion if you have positive response to it. Actually we are not racing here, are we? (he he he...)
As of the current state of the article, I think there are some broken references, and some lines are seriously missing citations. If you manage to find out some resource, and unsure to order and organize them properly there in topic, post 'em here.
Have a good Editing time !!! – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 19:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
With the addition of iPod Touch/Phone, how do we specify this in the "Media" section of the infobox? I assume it will be a download? -- Lyverbe ( talk) 17:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
The boxart of the PC version shown is not currently like that. PC games don't have the black bar at the top that says "PC DVD" anymore. Instead, it just says PC DVD ROM on the lower left. This should be updated. -- Blah911 ( talk) 19:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone seen a screenshot of the same truck driving around in Burnout Paradise? It can be seen at the forums. 70.45.160.124 ( talk) 19:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Milian will be the lead female in the game. Here is the fixed ref. [1] Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
References
This site has posted minimum system requirements, but I'm not sure how much it can be trusted. It doesn't provide its source. Shall we add them anyway? anyone know a better source? -- Lyverbe ( talk) 16:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
There are cops mode confirmed like Criminal Scramble mode on the North American EA's store and some places that the game for pre-order not just for the Nintendo DS, but also the PS3, X-Box 360 and PC versions. While the european EA stores and some places that the game listed for pre-order claim that Criminal Scramble only for the Nintendo DS. Chase Down mode will be on the PSP version of the game and Cops N Robbers mode will be on the Wii version as part of the Wii's Party Play mode as a offline mode while for the PS3, X-Box 360 and PC it will be a online mode. About the Criminal Scramble mode for the other consoles and PC I will get further info when its available.
Red Polar Bear Ranger ( Red Polar Bear Ranger 12:33, 31 October 2008 (CUT)
I heard on the official EA NFS forums that Criminal Scramble is a mode (in pretty vague language). I promptly asked whatever the heck a Criminal Scramble mode would be, and did not get an answer. Thanks for your information on this issue! Kenavt ( talk) 01:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
From what I learned Criminal Scramble mode will only be in the DS version while the PC, 360 and PS3 versions get the online versions of the Nintendo Wii's Cops N Robbers mode. However in the console and PC version's career mode there will be some jobs where the player does get to chase bad guys but in their career car though. Of course the PSP version gets Chase Down mode. Of course the cell phone version has no cop modes at all. Red Polar Bear Ranger ( Red Polar Bear Ranger 19:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh come on Xirh, you can't honestly request a 'fact' for the "map size being the biggest in all NFS worlds". It's like asking a 'fact' for someone saying "A bicycle is smaller than a car". Just by looking at the map, it's clear to see that it's bigger than Most Wanted which was then the biggest (wasn't it?). We shouldn't put 'fact' just for the fun of having the dirty text "Citation needed" displayed in an article. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 12:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
There is no proper detail of the game plot unlike previous Need For Speed articles, and there is no "Car" section which gives the list of available cars, these two are one of the most important features of Need For Speed articles on Wikipedia, ProStreet page has the same problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.91.191.4 ( talk) 07:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
During the credits, it's proven that Need For Speed Undercover uses the Havok engine. The heroic driving engine is just one of the features in the game, not the game engine itself. Look it up in the credits, and you'll see it towards the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by APR76 ( talk • contribs) 13:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Upon playing the game yesterday morning as a Christmas present, I noticed that by taking a look at the in-game map there were striking similarities in each of the zones in Tri-City to the boroughs of Rockport in Need for Speed: Most Wanted. Can we add useful information about the geographical layout and the comparisons to the Most Wanted map that is used in Undercover within the next few months? Brandon ( talk) 06:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm now going to put on the Cars that are within the game. P.S. Yes receiving the Game as a gift (..yay..) Awsome gameplay and storyline. Gaming-Kid 18:49 28 Decemeber 2008 (UTC)
A B C D Marmalaad ( talk) 16:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Why is it these items keep getting deleteted - shouldn't the general public know about these problems. Ngaugekid 12.05 29 Decemeber 2008 (UTC)
This section is constantly being edited and now looks really ugly with all the links and "citation needed". I believe this section has too much detail and it opens up the need to always edit it. We should provide the basic information (a single 3-4 lines paragraph) and the links will take care of the rest by pointing websites that have complete reviews. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 11:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
""You ... run missions where you steal cars, make 'special' deliveries and things like this now and again, but you never actually see any sequences that show how the cops are putting the evidence together or anything of that sort."[citation needed] Instead, "[Chase Lihn] will tell you [what] you need to do to get on the inside of a racing group in order to get dirt on them, and then after a race she'll say 'We have enough, let's move in.' [But you're left asking:] How did that help at all?"[26]"
I added that material and the two sentences I quoted from IGN were on the same page, back to back in fact, which is why I only provided one citation for both. The only reason I split the two sentences up was because it fit better that way. Splew ( talk) 00:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I presume it would be acceptable to cite the game itself for many of the areas that are marked for citation, namely map, damage and police system details. Am I correct? I say so because other notable video game articles like Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty: World at War frequently cite the game itself for details that cannot be verified in any way other than playing the game. Splew ( talk) 00:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
CoD 4 passed FA, so I think it's okay. It's a good idea to use it for the plot, but try not to add a POV. Just try to stick to the main things that happen. It's more likely that gamers have different opinions about the little things. Make sure that the console you're playing the game doesn't have a different plot etc compared to other consoles. If it is, then use a third party source to explain the differences. Since my expansion on the plot of CoD 5, large numbers of people have edited it. I have now removed it from my watchlist and given up checking every single edit. And yes, it is often their experience of what they think the game is showing them. Ironicaly, there were very few edits to the story section when it was just a small paragraph. Now that is looks so big, users feel confident about adding every little detail showed in the game. A few tips for writing from a video game as your reference is to not use the words "many", "lots" or "a lot", as this is your own opinion. The word "some" should never be used. Jolly Ω Janner 19:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
"...one reference per paragraph (if too many are making the article "ugly") making sure that all information in the paragraph pertains to the reference, and a reference for every sentence of different/additional information as needed."- Jack (Talk) 03:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay Spew, my mistake. Sorry about that, I must have misunderstood what you were saying. Anyways, now that a consensus has been reached I guess this topic is closed.- Jack (Talk) 22:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha indeed they are. Well until someone can be "bothered" implementing what we have decided on then I guess they will stay there.- Jack (Talk) 23:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Me either. I guess Splew can do it :P.- Jack (Talk) 23:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Why shouldn't the reference section be as big as the article? There certainly is nothing wrong with that. At the worst, it just makes it more verifiable. By the way, if you have such a hate for the article's look maybe you should do it cause to me that is logical. However, if you ask me nicely I will fix the entire article at the expense of my time.- Jack (Talk) 01:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Can you explain what you mean in some more detail please?- Jack (Talk) 07:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I know the policy except people have been arguing against it: it makes the article "ugly"; it wasn't "appropriate" etc. So someone gave an idea/opinion and people agreed with it, now it is just a matter of implementing it. Don't get me wrong I'm all for WP:V, but you should address the points people made earlier directly so all relevant people have a better idea what they are doing wrong and what policy is.- Jack (Talk) 07:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Good point. I guess the article will stay as it is then.- Jack (Talk) 08:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I also removed the part saying that Undercover "has the largest open world map that EA has ever created". I've not seen any sources saying that and it can't be verified by game experience, so I think there is no way to verify it. Splew ( talk) 00:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Can we have more images, please??
well add it MaxFinkerBerg1945-2018 ( talk) 12:27, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Good article criteria
Unfortunately I have to Quick-Fail this article. However given some updates feel free to renominate it.
Reviewer: Teancum ( talk) 18:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I have uploaded the new version of the file, as the existing lacks the EA logo at the bottom. The new image is from the website http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2833552640/tt1264900. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskhh ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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Name's members Marmalaad ( talk) 16:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
EA created a web site to promote Undercover, https://whicroadtotake.com, which can still be accessed via internet archive, but won't work due to requiring flash player. It showed an interrogation room, and clicking on objects in the room would bring up videos that included characters from the game. Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
EA also made a series of videos called Take Down, also promoting Undercover. It's since been combined into a single video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY0rOZK5UlA Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
On the game DVD, there's a promotional video for the Nissan 370Z: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eMXceuj-8 Rcgldr ( talk) 17:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)