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"See also: Ubuntu". Eh? ncurses has nothing to do with Ubuntu beyond being one of its components, in the same way as it's a component of hundreds of other GNU/Linux distributions. (I'm an Ubuntu developer.) I'll revert this if it isn't explained. -- Colin Watson 23:58, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the proper capitalization is for ncurses/Ncurses? When I first saw this page, the all lower-case seemed more probable and UNIX-ish, but the official page isn't consistent. Really a trivial issue, was just curious. -- A brisson 18:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
-- Emry 14:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Does have a link which explains why ncurses was released under a permissive licence insead of the GPL or LGPL? I can take a good guess, but getting it from Stallman would be better. Anyone? Gronky 07:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
wasn't the first paragraph supposed to give a general iudea of the subject for users not familiar with the subject. cause I don't get a single word 354d 23:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any program to install Ncurses in Windows ?. -- Mac ( talk) 14:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Found: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/ncurses.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac ( talk • contribs) 14:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
There was a short part in curses that I moved here about the date of the start of the project. May be cruft. -- Aronzak ( talk) 08:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Recent edit added an external link to a low-value article. There are three parts:
The editor who added the link appears only interested in the last part (though comparable screenshots are available from other sources, including Wikipedia). Some of the inaccuracies:
Tedickey ( talk) 00:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Anon-IP is promoting Ed Carp. I found no WP:RS to support the statements given ("full color support" by the way is advertising unless supported by multiple independent reliable sources). Googling finds that Ed Carp expressed an intention to produce a curses library, but finds nothing to indicate that the intention was carried out, nor did anyone notice. He was mentioned (along with about 20 other people) in a "thanks" section in an early version of ncurses, but even that was trimmed to eliminate non-substantial contributions in the mid-1990s. He is not mentioned in ncurses past that point; there is no apparent reason to promote Ed Carp when there are more than two hundred substantial contributors (see [ NEWS]) to consider. TEDickey ( talk) 10:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
It was widely known in the user community at the time of the curses work done by me, and lack of attribution is in no way "vandalism" or any less valid. There are many assertions in the curses and ncurses wiki pages that are not attributed, but are allowed to exist.
12.176.206.100 ( talk) 16:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC) Ed Carp (erc@pobox.com)
Editor did not clarify this "M1995" (a plain year was accurate enough, the use of "M" is obscure. By the way, the overall effect of this edit is to move away from the given sources, into editor's interpretation. TEDickey ( talk) 17:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Rogue is not a "text-based adventure game." Rogue is the text-base RPG that started the trend of "Rogue-like" games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.227.108 ( talk) 18:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
That source is unverifiable, long out of print, and by the way the statement it supported is likely not found in that source anyway. TEDickey ( talk) 21:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
The given source doesn't provide that information (doesn't cover the dates from 2000-2011). By reading the source code and website, (a) there are more contributors than mentioned, (b) but only a few accounted for more than 0.5% of the changes since 1996. TEDickey ( talk) 21:05, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
«… more than 20 contributors …»and listed 23 of them. It seems like that you just failed to read it. What are you disputing here? AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 10:17, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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I am Springnuts, a formerly uninvolved editor. I have not, AFAIK, previously interacted with any other editor involved.
User:Alexander Davronov has requested [ [4]] a 3O about whether or not the summary box which lists seven people as the developers of ncurses should have a footnote stating that
The footnote has been tagged with a ‘dubious’ tag by User:Tedickey I note that User:Alexander Davronov, who replaced a single developer name with a list of seven (presumably principal) developers, and added the footnote, is currently pursuing a complaint against user User:Tedickey at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents over a separate editing dispute, the merits of which they ( User:Alexander Davronov) are also pursuing at WP:3O. I restrict my comments to the dispute over this article. From the source the 23 contributors referenced in the footnote are referred to as minor contributors with as few as 15 lines of code. There were also an unspecified number of others who made up to 19 lines of code who are not included in the 23 people referred to in the source. In my opinion the footnote serves no encyclopaedic purpose. Readers will be aware the software development is a collaborative effort. The number given in the source is inevitably a little arbitrary. The footnote should be deleted, along with (for slightly different reasons; see below) the ‘dubious’ tag. I have no opinion (and the 3O request does not ask about this) as to the accuracy of the current list of seven principal developers. I wish to draw User:Tedickey’s attention to the policy on Conflict of interest. COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. I invite User:Tedickey to consider whether COI policy indicates they should not make further edits to this article, and that if edits already made – such as the ‘dubious’ tag - are reverted - they should not re-revert. Disclaimer: This is only my opinion, and editors are entirely free to ignore it :) Springnuts ( talk) 22:18, 19 November 2022 (UTC) |
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"See also: Ubuntu". Eh? ncurses has nothing to do with Ubuntu beyond being one of its components, in the same way as it's a component of hundreds of other GNU/Linux distributions. (I'm an Ubuntu developer.) I'll revert this if it isn't explained. -- Colin Watson 23:58, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the proper capitalization is for ncurses/Ncurses? When I first saw this page, the all lower-case seemed more probable and UNIX-ish, but the official page isn't consistent. Really a trivial issue, was just curious. -- A brisson 18:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
-- Emry 14:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Does have a link which explains why ncurses was released under a permissive licence insead of the GPL or LGPL? I can take a good guess, but getting it from Stallman would be better. Anyone? Gronky 07:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
wasn't the first paragraph supposed to give a general iudea of the subject for users not familiar with the subject. cause I don't get a single word 354d 23:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any program to install Ncurses in Windows ?. -- Mac ( talk) 14:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Found: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/ncurses.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac ( talk • contribs) 14:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
There was a short part in curses that I moved here about the date of the start of the project. May be cruft. -- Aronzak ( talk) 08:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Recent edit added an external link to a low-value article. There are three parts:
The editor who added the link appears only interested in the last part (though comparable screenshots are available from other sources, including Wikipedia). Some of the inaccuracies:
Tedickey ( talk) 00:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Anon-IP is promoting Ed Carp. I found no WP:RS to support the statements given ("full color support" by the way is advertising unless supported by multiple independent reliable sources). Googling finds that Ed Carp expressed an intention to produce a curses library, but finds nothing to indicate that the intention was carried out, nor did anyone notice. He was mentioned (along with about 20 other people) in a "thanks" section in an early version of ncurses, but even that was trimmed to eliminate non-substantial contributions in the mid-1990s. He is not mentioned in ncurses past that point; there is no apparent reason to promote Ed Carp when there are more than two hundred substantial contributors (see [ NEWS]) to consider. TEDickey ( talk) 10:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
It was widely known in the user community at the time of the curses work done by me, and lack of attribution is in no way "vandalism" or any less valid. There are many assertions in the curses and ncurses wiki pages that are not attributed, but are allowed to exist.
12.176.206.100 ( talk) 16:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC) Ed Carp (erc@pobox.com)
Editor did not clarify this "M1995" (a plain year was accurate enough, the use of "M" is obscure. By the way, the overall effect of this edit is to move away from the given sources, into editor's interpretation. TEDickey ( talk) 17:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Rogue is not a "text-based adventure game." Rogue is the text-base RPG that started the trend of "Rogue-like" games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.227.108 ( talk) 18:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
That source is unverifiable, long out of print, and by the way the statement it supported is likely not found in that source anyway. TEDickey ( talk) 21:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
The given source doesn't provide that information (doesn't cover the dates from 2000-2011). By reading the source code and website, (a) there are more contributors than mentioned, (b) but only a few accounted for more than 0.5% of the changes since 1996. TEDickey ( talk) 21:05, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
«… more than 20 contributors …»and listed 23 of them. It seems like that you just failed to read it. What are you disputing here? AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 10:17, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request: |
I am Springnuts, a formerly uninvolved editor. I have not, AFAIK, previously interacted with any other editor involved.
User:Alexander Davronov has requested [ [4]] a 3O about whether or not the summary box which lists seven people as the developers of ncurses should have a footnote stating that
The footnote has been tagged with a ‘dubious’ tag by User:Tedickey I note that User:Alexander Davronov, who replaced a single developer name with a list of seven (presumably principal) developers, and added the footnote, is currently pursuing a complaint against user User:Tedickey at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents over a separate editing dispute, the merits of which they ( User:Alexander Davronov) are also pursuing at WP:3O. I restrict my comments to the dispute over this article. From the source the 23 contributors referenced in the footnote are referred to as minor contributors with as few as 15 lines of code. There were also an unspecified number of others who made up to 19 lines of code who are not included in the 23 people referred to in the source. In my opinion the footnote serves no encyclopaedic purpose. Readers will be aware the software development is a collaborative effort. The number given in the source is inevitably a little arbitrary. The footnote should be deleted, along with (for slightly different reasons; see below) the ‘dubious’ tag. I have no opinion (and the 3O request does not ask about this) as to the accuracy of the current list of seven principal developers. I wish to draw User:Tedickey’s attention to the policy on Conflict of interest. COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. I invite User:Tedickey to consider whether COI policy indicates they should not make further edits to this article, and that if edits already made – such as the ‘dubious’ tag - are reverted - they should not re-revert. Disclaimer: This is only my opinion, and editors are entirely free to ignore it :) Springnuts ( talk) 22:18, 19 November 2022 (UTC) |