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Were the ranks of the SA, SS, and Waffen SS essentially the same? There should be a page comparing all ranks of Nazi Germany, both military and paramilitary.
One can (and should) say many bad things about the Nazis, but boy could those guys invent ranks and distinctions - and both in a very orderly, repetitive and logical fasion.
The Wehrmacht was the German armed forces - not quite a PARAmilitary but a very military institution indeed. Boeing720 ( talk) 21:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Was before december 1941 Field Marshal Walther von Brauchitsch, and after the defeat outside of Moscow Adolf Hitler himself. Commander of OKW was Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel. I do not see how Hermann Göring fits in here. However Heinrich Himmler was the only RFSS, Reichsführer der SS, and ought to stand at top level under SS. And all SS-officers should move up one step. Oberstgruppenfüher came second (after Himmler) then Obergruppenführer (both ranks were Field Marshals, Generalfeldmarschall, and Gruppenfüher eaqualed General. The Wehrmacht ranks were not invented by NSDAP by the way Boeing720 ( talk) 22:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Putting the HJ children ranks into the hierarchy actually skews the table pretty badly. For instance, a Bannfuhrer was more like a lieutenant or captain - certainly not a colonel and the HJ children ranks were not equatable to senior NCOs in the German Army. Rather the opposite, even the highest HJ child rank would have been outranked by a German Corporal or even Private. I've never heard of a single case where HJ minors commanded active duty German soldiers. I believe the table should be changed. - OberRanks ( talk) 12:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Were the ranks of the SA, SS, and Waffen SS essentially the same? There should be a page comparing all ranks of Nazi Germany, both military and paramilitary.
One can (and should) say many bad things about the Nazis, but boy could those guys invent ranks and distinctions - and both in a very orderly, repetitive and logical fasion.
The Wehrmacht was the German armed forces - not quite a PARAmilitary but a very military institution indeed. Boeing720 ( talk) 21:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Was before december 1941 Field Marshal Walther von Brauchitsch, and after the defeat outside of Moscow Adolf Hitler himself. Commander of OKW was Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel. I do not see how Hermann Göring fits in here. However Heinrich Himmler was the only RFSS, Reichsführer der SS, and ought to stand at top level under SS. And all SS-officers should move up one step. Oberstgruppenfüher came second (after Himmler) then Obergruppenführer (both ranks were Field Marshals, Generalfeldmarschall, and Gruppenfüher eaqualed General. The Wehrmacht ranks were not invented by NSDAP by the way Boeing720 ( talk) 22:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Putting the HJ children ranks into the hierarchy actually skews the table pretty badly. For instance, a Bannfuhrer was more like a lieutenant or captain - certainly not a colonel and the HJ children ranks were not equatable to senior NCOs in the German Army. Rather the opposite, even the highest HJ child rank would have been outranked by a German Corporal or even Private. I've never heard of a single case where HJ minors commanded active duty German soldiers. I believe the table should be changed. - OberRanks ( talk) 12:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)