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I'm slightly confused. The Nationalist Government is the government of the Republic of China. It's true that it's a one party state, but why do we refer to The Nationalist Government as a "state", instead of "the ruling government of a state"? For comparison, the Chinese article is 中華民國國民政府, Nationalist Government of the Republic of China, and the article refers to it as a government, not a state. Jim Sukwutput 20:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
It was discussed in Talk:Republic of China (1912–1949)#Disputed that this article will cover the period between 1928 and 1949 to fill in the void between the 1912-1928 period and the post-1949 period. However, the current revision of the article shows the timeframe to be between 1927 and 1947. However, if one were to look at the Chinese-language version of the article, you will realize that the Nationalist Government was actually founded on July 1, 1925 in Guangzhou and was officially abolished on May 20, 1948 when Chiang Kai-shek was inaugurated as the 1st ROC President under the constitution. I've changed the "year_end" value of the infobox to 1948 as a result of that, but have not done the same for the "year_start" value.
To properly fill in the gaps in between the three periods, I propose should change it to 1928-1949 (1928 being the year when the KMT declared China as "unified" after capturing Beijing, and gaining international recognition as a result, as well as 1949, when the government retreated to Taiwan). However, we should also make slight mention of the 1925 establishment of the Nationalist Government in Guangzhou, the rival Wuhan Nationalist Government, and finally the 1927 establishment of the Nanjing Nationalist Government, which is the main focus of this article. It might sound a little confusing for some editors, but those who have read the Chinese version of the article will understand where I am coming from. Raiolu ( talk) 21:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
In zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/中華民國國民政府 it indicates on ROC Territories that there is Republic of China People's Republic of China Mongolia Russia Tajik Afghanistan Pakistan Bhutan Myanmar Korea India some thing is missing. Dadapotato ( talk) 17:30, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I think he was right to remove the infobox since it was not a state, but still, this would be great to add a submit to Wikipedia a new infobox for old governments or find a template. I think there is an infobox government. But it might not have some required things, like Is part of Linguiyi ( talk) 21:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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List of Presidents of the Republic of China list the first Chairperson is Tan Yankai (1928). Please provide reliable source for Wang Jingwei (1925). Please provide reliable source or i considered as adding hoax. Matthew hk ( talk) 15:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Please form a consensus to change to non-SVG map first here. Stable version had SVG map (see the article history in 2013. even older version of the article use another map, but was File:Map-ROC.png in clean color scheme (grey for other countries, highlighted for the subject). Matthew hk ( talk) 14:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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so please considered to name one.
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to state the region really controlled by Nationalist government in the map caption. This method can solve the problem you concerned effectively and avoid using other inappropriate maps. 123.150.182.179 07:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)The quote getting to Jonathan Fenby's book? / publication, is incomplete.
Wikipedia's own history of the man clearly indicate a lifelong history of working/publishing inside British institutions / in positions of influence, why should we as-readers assume there's nothing-suspicious about this quote if it's LEFT incomplete?
it would come as no-surprise that the initial "strike first" against the PRC's predecessor, needing to've been genuine, else if-not delegitimizing many of the sequences of events that happened as-a-result of it right up to the present day,.. could still be of interest to foreign powers that vainly want to turn back time. 120.21.22.154 ( talk) 08:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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I'm slightly confused. The Nationalist Government is the government of the Republic of China. It's true that it's a one party state, but why do we refer to The Nationalist Government as a "state", instead of "the ruling government of a state"? For comparison, the Chinese article is 中華民國國民政府, Nationalist Government of the Republic of China, and the article refers to it as a government, not a state. Jim Sukwutput 20:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
It was discussed in Talk:Republic of China (1912–1949)#Disputed that this article will cover the period between 1928 and 1949 to fill in the void between the 1912-1928 period and the post-1949 period. However, the current revision of the article shows the timeframe to be between 1927 and 1947. However, if one were to look at the Chinese-language version of the article, you will realize that the Nationalist Government was actually founded on July 1, 1925 in Guangzhou and was officially abolished on May 20, 1948 when Chiang Kai-shek was inaugurated as the 1st ROC President under the constitution. I've changed the "year_end" value of the infobox to 1948 as a result of that, but have not done the same for the "year_start" value.
To properly fill in the gaps in between the three periods, I propose should change it to 1928-1949 (1928 being the year when the KMT declared China as "unified" after capturing Beijing, and gaining international recognition as a result, as well as 1949, when the government retreated to Taiwan). However, we should also make slight mention of the 1925 establishment of the Nationalist Government in Guangzhou, the rival Wuhan Nationalist Government, and finally the 1927 establishment of the Nanjing Nationalist Government, which is the main focus of this article. It might sound a little confusing for some editors, but those who have read the Chinese version of the article will understand where I am coming from. Raiolu ( talk) 21:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
In zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/中華民國國民政府 it indicates on ROC Territories that there is Republic of China People's Republic of China Mongolia Russia Tajik Afghanistan Pakistan Bhutan Myanmar Korea India some thing is missing. Dadapotato ( talk) 17:30, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I think he was right to remove the infobox since it was not a state, but still, this would be great to add a submit to Wikipedia a new infobox for old governments or find a template. I think there is an infobox government. But it might not have some required things, like Is part of Linguiyi ( talk) 21:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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List of Presidents of the Republic of China list the first Chairperson is Tan Yankai (1928). Please provide reliable source for Wang Jingwei (1925). Please provide reliable source or i considered as adding hoax. Matthew hk ( talk) 15:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Please form a consensus to change to non-SVG map first here. Stable version had SVG map (see the article history in 2013. even older version of the article use another map, but was File:Map-ROC.png in clean color scheme (grey for other countries, highlighted for the subject). Matthew hk ( talk) 14:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
|alt_map=
so please considered to name one.
Matthew hk (
talk)
15:18, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
<ref>
to state the region really controlled by Nationalist government in the map caption. This method can solve the problem you concerned effectively and avoid using other inappropriate maps. 123.150.182.179 07:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)The quote getting to Jonathan Fenby's book? / publication, is incomplete.
Wikipedia's own history of the man clearly indicate a lifelong history of working/publishing inside British institutions / in positions of influence, why should we as-readers assume there's nothing-suspicious about this quote if it's LEFT incomplete?
it would come as no-surprise that the initial "strike first" against the PRC's predecessor, needing to've been genuine, else if-not delegitimizing many of the sequences of events that happened as-a-result of it right up to the present day,.. could still be of interest to foreign powers that vainly want to turn back time. 120.21.22.154 ( talk) 08:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)