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Research issues: For Yauco, old list had Casa Lluberas Negroni, pipelinked to Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico#Corsican Landmarks in Yauco. This does not seem to be NRHP-listed. Also old list had Mansion Negroni, also pipelinked to Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico#Corsican Landmarks in Yauco, also seeming not to be NRHP-listed. (Note, Chalet Amill, likewise pipelinked, is in fact NRHP listed.). doncram ( talk) 03:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Three items from Ponce, Puerto Rico moved out of article, because these seem not to be NHRP-listed (or listed under a different name, or delisted):
doncram ( talk) 05:44, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The article Panteón Nacional Román Baldorioty de Castro now includes an incomplete NRHP infobox, and it is claimed this is listed on the NRHP. It is currently pipelinked from the Cementerio Angiguo de Ponce item in this Southern Puerto Rico list article. I would like to fix up the NRHP infobox properly.
But I wonder, is this National Register refnum 84003149, Cementerio Antiguo de Ponce, which is located at Torres no. 1 and Frontispicio St. in Ponce, PR, and also known as "Cementerio Civil de Ponce". Or is it refnum 88001249 Cementerio Catolico San Vicente de Paul, which is located "Off PR 10" in Ponce, PR, and also known as "Cementerio Catolico de Ponce"? Both are NRHP-listed in Ponce. And what is the evidence that it is one of these? doncram ( talk) 05:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I just undid a big edit that was adding NRHP listing dates and refnums into the description column for all the Ponce entries. I think but am not sure the source may have been the www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com website, which is a private website mirroring the public domain NRIS database. The table was already constructed using the NRIS database. The dates appear already in the date column of the table. And, the date, refnum, and other information from the National Register Information System (NRIS) database are easily added to any individual place article in a NRHP infobox, so including the refnum in the description column does not seem helpful. To let you know, there is a useful NRHP infobox generator tool, developed and supported by User:Elkman. You can use it to get a cut-and-paste ready infobox to use in a new article for any but the most recent NRHP listings (actually for any older than 3/2009). Try it, say searching on "Zaldo" and "PR" and you will get an infobox filled out with NRIS information including refnum and listing date for "Nebot, Zaldo de, Residencia". You can then further edit the infobox, say to unwrap it to show as "Zaldo de Nebot Residencia" instead. I use this generator whenever I have pictures or other information and am ready to start an article on a NRHP-listed place. doncram ( talk) 09:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Also, it is known that there are some errors in NRIS. If a different source can be found which shows corrected info, a wikipedia article should show corrected information. But to address the errors in NRIS, a number of NRHP editors have been identifying errors and reporting them in batches to the National Register. It's a slow process but it has been working. One good reason to do this is to help correct NRIS and eventually the several websites like the "NRHP.COM" private site which show incorrect information, so that future editors do not "correct" our corrections back to the incorrect information, based on these sources. Please see wp:NRIS info issues for apparent NRIS errors noted so far. The central National Register will make changes if it is just their typo. Other changes will require their checking with the Puerto Rico State Historic Preservation Office (PR SHPO) and possibly having the PR SHPO submit a change request form. Please don't change NRIS-based info in articles without also making a note there, to further the correction process. All other editors can be more confident in your "corrections" if u put a note there, also, because we would eventually hear back from the National Register if our "correction" is in fact a mistake.
Note: coordinates being off should just be corrected. Also the NRHP name for a property being spelt differently, without Spanish-language accents, is not an error, though it differs from the common name for a place which should be used as the wikipedia article title. The NRHP name is what the property is listed as, on the National Register. The NRHP name should show in the NRHP list-article, although links may go to differently accented article names. I think that NRHP names should appear in the NRHP infobox and usually also in bold in the article lede, too. Of course if the NRHP name is simply wrong otherwise it should be corrected. Official NRHP names are shown also in a PDF document prepared by the PR SHPO, linked from wp:NRIS info issues#Puerto Rico. doncram ( talk) 16:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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Research issues: For Yauco, old list had Casa Lluberas Negroni, pipelinked to Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico#Corsican Landmarks in Yauco. This does not seem to be NRHP-listed. Also old list had Mansion Negroni, also pipelinked to Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico#Corsican Landmarks in Yauco, also seeming not to be NRHP-listed. (Note, Chalet Amill, likewise pipelinked, is in fact NRHP listed.). doncram ( talk) 03:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Three items from Ponce, Puerto Rico moved out of article, because these seem not to be NHRP-listed (or listed under a different name, or delisted):
doncram ( talk) 05:44, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The article Panteón Nacional Román Baldorioty de Castro now includes an incomplete NRHP infobox, and it is claimed this is listed on the NRHP. It is currently pipelinked from the Cementerio Angiguo de Ponce item in this Southern Puerto Rico list article. I would like to fix up the NRHP infobox properly.
But I wonder, is this National Register refnum 84003149, Cementerio Antiguo de Ponce, which is located at Torres no. 1 and Frontispicio St. in Ponce, PR, and also known as "Cementerio Civil de Ponce". Or is it refnum 88001249 Cementerio Catolico San Vicente de Paul, which is located "Off PR 10" in Ponce, PR, and also known as "Cementerio Catolico de Ponce"? Both are NRHP-listed in Ponce. And what is the evidence that it is one of these? doncram ( talk) 05:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I just undid a big edit that was adding NRHP listing dates and refnums into the description column for all the Ponce entries. I think but am not sure the source may have been the www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com website, which is a private website mirroring the public domain NRIS database. The table was already constructed using the NRIS database. The dates appear already in the date column of the table. And, the date, refnum, and other information from the National Register Information System (NRIS) database are easily added to any individual place article in a NRHP infobox, so including the refnum in the description column does not seem helpful. To let you know, there is a useful NRHP infobox generator tool, developed and supported by User:Elkman. You can use it to get a cut-and-paste ready infobox to use in a new article for any but the most recent NRHP listings (actually for any older than 3/2009). Try it, say searching on "Zaldo" and "PR" and you will get an infobox filled out with NRIS information including refnum and listing date for "Nebot, Zaldo de, Residencia". You can then further edit the infobox, say to unwrap it to show as "Zaldo de Nebot Residencia" instead. I use this generator whenever I have pictures or other information and am ready to start an article on a NRHP-listed place. doncram ( talk) 09:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Also, it is known that there are some errors in NRIS. If a different source can be found which shows corrected info, a wikipedia article should show corrected information. But to address the errors in NRIS, a number of NRHP editors have been identifying errors and reporting them in batches to the National Register. It's a slow process but it has been working. One good reason to do this is to help correct NRIS and eventually the several websites like the "NRHP.COM" private site which show incorrect information, so that future editors do not "correct" our corrections back to the incorrect information, based on these sources. Please see wp:NRIS info issues for apparent NRIS errors noted so far. The central National Register will make changes if it is just their typo. Other changes will require their checking with the Puerto Rico State Historic Preservation Office (PR SHPO) and possibly having the PR SHPO submit a change request form. Please don't change NRIS-based info in articles without also making a note there, to further the correction process. All other editors can be more confident in your "corrections" if u put a note there, also, because we would eventually hear back from the National Register if our "correction" is in fact a mistake.
Note: coordinates being off should just be corrected. Also the NRHP name for a property being spelt differently, without Spanish-language accents, is not an error, though it differs from the common name for a place which should be used as the wikipedia article title. The NRHP name is what the property is listed as, on the National Register. The NRHP name should show in the NRHP list-article, although links may go to differently accented article names. I think that NRHP names should appear in the NRHP infobox and usually also in bold in the article lede, too. Of course if the NRHP name is simply wrong otherwise it should be corrected. Official NRHP names are shown also in a PDF document prepared by the PR SHPO, linked from wp:NRIS info issues#Puerto Rico. doncram ( talk) 16:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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