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Reviewer: Farang Rak Tham ( talk · contribs) 07:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I will review this.--
Farang Rak Tham
(Talk)
07:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I will continue with a detailed review per section. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries. Feel free to discuss any copyedit i have done, and if necessary revert.
... its inaugural chairman David Z. T. Yui sought to balance pressure from both nationalist and anti-nationalist groups, ... The NCC sided with the nationalist protesters ...
... unequal treaties ...
... liberal leanings ...
Even during the years of Nationalist China ...
Similarly, at times the government needed the NCC's support to make its initiatives effective.This seems to indicate a position of influence, which contradicts the first part of this paragraph
The NCC quieted down its activities ...Why?
...to have them back.To have the personnel back in office?
In the midst of the transition period, the NCC spoke against corruption and social injustice, but considering the handover of all political affairs to the Communist Party of China (CPC), this was "too little too late".Please explain.
The NCC "sorely missed the leadership" ...Is Bayes quoting the NCC, or is he saying this himself?
Instead, five progressive Christians ...So first the NCC was too liberal, now they are too conservative?
... became involved in the united front controlled by the CPC ...Who is the CPC?
... informing them about the imminent founding of the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA).What were the implications or consequences of this?
Wu also reported to the NCC ...To report may imply an employer-employee relationship. So Wu was working for the NCC now, not the CPCC?
...had become part of a campaign to establish the TSPMPlease explain first where this stands for.
To be continued. Feel free to start editing...
Above there are two minor points left, both underlined. I am continuing the per-section review:
... "The Christian Manifesto" had become part of a campaign ...;
... a relatively small number of activists ...It isn't quite clear from this and the following paragraphs who promoted the manifesto. You might want to change several sentences from passive to active voice, and specify who did what, especially in the section about the manifesto.
... the road was open for both the inception of the TSPM and the success of the manifesto ...replace success by a more neutral word, such as acceptance or support ... by the Protestants.
As already suggested above, better to merge with the history section, as to provide context.--
Farang Rak Tham
(Talk)
12:14, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Most sources about the subject are not cited much on Google Scholar, and this it is hard to establish what is mainstream and what is not.
I found
this and
this source stating that the NCC was founded by the China Continuation Committee, and that the NCC already was involved with promotion of the three-self principles in 1922. This should be mentioned in the article.
(I further found this, this, this and this source, which you might want to take a look at. Thomson also mentions some reform programs of the NCC, which you have not yet covered, and might consider later. These sources contain nothing essential for GA coverage, though.)-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) Edited.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I am putting the article on hold to give you some more time.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 11:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Good Article review progress box
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Currently there is no Pinyin in the Chinese infobox which is arguably indispensable given the fact that most China-related articles contain Pinyin. -- 123.161.170.169 ( talk) 01:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Farang Rak Tham ( talk · contribs) 07:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I will review this.--
Farang Rak Tham
(Talk)
07:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I will continue with a detailed review per section. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries. Feel free to discuss any copyedit i have done, and if necessary revert.
... its inaugural chairman David Z. T. Yui sought to balance pressure from both nationalist and anti-nationalist groups, ... The NCC sided with the nationalist protesters ...
... unequal treaties ...
... liberal leanings ...
Even during the years of Nationalist China ...
Similarly, at times the government needed the NCC's support to make its initiatives effective.This seems to indicate a position of influence, which contradicts the first part of this paragraph
The NCC quieted down its activities ...Why?
...to have them back.To have the personnel back in office?
In the midst of the transition period, the NCC spoke against corruption and social injustice, but considering the handover of all political affairs to the Communist Party of China (CPC), this was "too little too late".Please explain.
The NCC "sorely missed the leadership" ...Is Bayes quoting the NCC, or is he saying this himself?
Instead, five progressive Christians ...So first the NCC was too liberal, now they are too conservative?
... became involved in the united front controlled by the CPC ...Who is the CPC?
... informing them about the imminent founding of the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA).What were the implications or consequences of this?
Wu also reported to the NCC ...To report may imply an employer-employee relationship. So Wu was working for the NCC now, not the CPCC?
...had become part of a campaign to establish the TSPMPlease explain first where this stands for.
To be continued. Feel free to start editing...
Above there are two minor points left, both underlined. I am continuing the per-section review:
... "The Christian Manifesto" had become part of a campaign ...;
... a relatively small number of activists ...It isn't quite clear from this and the following paragraphs who promoted the manifesto. You might want to change several sentences from passive to active voice, and specify who did what, especially in the section about the manifesto.
... the road was open for both the inception of the TSPM and the success of the manifesto ...replace success by a more neutral word, such as acceptance or support ... by the Protestants.
As already suggested above, better to merge with the history section, as to provide context.--
Farang Rak Tham
(Talk)
12:14, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Most sources about the subject are not cited much on Google Scholar, and this it is hard to establish what is mainstream and what is not.
I found
this and
this source stating that the NCC was founded by the China Continuation Committee, and that the NCC already was involved with promotion of the three-self principles in 1922. This should be mentioned in the article.
(I further found this, this, this and this source, which you might want to take a look at. Thomson also mentions some reform programs of the NCC, which you have not yet covered, and might consider later. These sources contain nothing essential for GA coverage, though.)-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) Edited.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I am putting the article on hold to give you some more time.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 11:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Good Article review progress box
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Currently there is no Pinyin in the Chinese infobox which is arguably indispensable given the fact that most China-related articles contain Pinyin. -- 123.161.170.169 ( talk) 01:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)