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@ GBRV: An account is whitewashing organizations mentioned in the new Vice article, which describes the incitement of violence online by NCOSE and Exodus Cry. Changes reverted as no rationale for hiding this information from a known national source from the public was provided. EffortMoose ( talk) 22:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
The site described is accurate as to the nature and history of the organization. Morality in Media is operated as a lobby and as such I feel that it is pertinent to identify the organization as represented by its' chief executive, Patrick A. Truman, as a registered lobby. Thank you, GCM
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This reference appeared in the introduction https://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/1943664/yahoo-slammed-porn-sites
I have deleted it. It refers to him as a lobbyist (a) in 2001 and (b) for the American Family Association. patsw ( talk) 03:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
This is one of the strangest editing disputes I have had. There's a slight difference in wording of the identical idea from this organization's main page and its about page.
https://endsexualexploitation.org
So my edit makes the mission ...which seeks to expose the seamless connection between all forms of sexual exploitation.
ChiveFungi chose from
https://endsexualexploitation.org/about/
CF's edit changes the mission to ...exposing the links between all forms of sexual exploitation
So what's the difference in meaning here that justifies this edit? patsw ( talk) 16:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Or does the Christian Left opposed the goals of the NCOSE?
It seems that sexual exploitation is common ground for all Christians as a matter of social justice. The characterization of NCOSE as on the right politically seems without evidence from the web site itself. If NCOSE is on the right, is every non-profit opposed to sexual exploitation on the right? Is the Me Too movement a movement of the right? Is the Left opposed (or indifferent) to ending sexual exploitation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patsw ( talk • contribs)
I removed it from See Also. I couldn't find any source declaring it to be part of the Christian Right. If there's a source or even a reasoned opinion for relating it to the Christian Right, I'm open to discussion. patsw ( talk) 20:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I simply condensed the see also section to just include a link to religious views on pornography as I feel that is more appropriate Mfernflower ( talk) 04:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
DSM-5-TR, incoming in March 2022, is expected to give the lie to the pornography public health crisis, and thus to the 16 US states legislatures which adopted such resolutions. Sorry, elected politicians, US psychiatrists have spit upon your parliamentary resolutions. tgeorgescu ( talk) 18:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
DSM-5 was revised (version + "TR"). Still no pornography, sex addiction, sex compulsion, etc. There remains insufficient evidence of the existence of these as independent pathologies. psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.pn.2022.1.20tgeorgescu ( talk) 19:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
I have just removed all the content from the lede which was cited to sources not discussing the NCSE. Article ledes aren't a platform for editorialising either about the subject, or on broader topics. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 16:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
References
Excessive use of the Internet not involving playing of online games (e.g., excessive use of social media, such as Facebook; viewing pornography online) is not considered analogous to Internet gaming disorder, and future research on other excessive uses of the Internet would need to follow similar guidelines as suggested herein. Excessive gambling online may qualify for a separate diagnosis of gambling disorder.
In addition to the substance-related disorders, this chapter also includes gambling disorder, reflecting evidence that gambling behaviors activate reward systems similar to those activated by drugs of abuse and that produce some behavioral symptoms that appear comparable to those produced by the substance use disorders. Other excessive behavioral patterns, such as Internet gaming (see "Conditions for Further Study"), have also been described, but the research on these and other behavioral syndromes is less clear. Thus, groups of repetitive behaviors, sometimes termed behavioral addictions (with subcategories such as "sex addiction," "exercise addiction," and "shopping addiction"), are not included because there is insufficient peer-reviewed evidence to establish the diagnostic criteria and course descriptions needed to identify these behaviors as mental disorders.
The medical community does not support the idea of pornography as a public health crisis: Rothman, Emily F. (26 August 2021). "Pornography as a US Public Health Problem". Pornography and Public Health. Oxford University Press. pp. 1–15. doi: 10.1093/oso/9780190075477.003.0001. tgeorgescu ( talk) 03:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
An explanation of how scientists have reacted to pseudoscientific theories should be prominently includedWP:PSCI. tgeorgescu ( talk) 11:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
This is a civil law matter. As argued on live TV about Rupert Murdoch's settlement in respect to Dominion Voting Systems, the civil law does not operate with "guilty" or "not guilty", but with "show me the money". tgeorgescu ( talk) 22:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
logo is missing. unless it is a non-PD. Lellyhatesanimals ( talk) 05:19, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
According to Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/us-far-right-group-influencing-anti-gay-policy-africa?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 2600:100B:B01A:6FE0:8541:109E:FD92:7418 ( talk) 18:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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@ GBRV: An account is whitewashing organizations mentioned in the new Vice article, which describes the incitement of violence online by NCOSE and Exodus Cry. Changes reverted as no rationale for hiding this information from a known national source from the public was provided. EffortMoose ( talk) 22:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
The site described is accurate as to the nature and history of the organization. Morality in Media is operated as a lobby and as such I feel that it is pertinent to identify the organization as represented by its' chief executive, Patrick A. Truman, as a registered lobby. Thank you, GCM
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This reference appeared in the introduction https://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/1943664/yahoo-slammed-porn-sites
I have deleted it. It refers to him as a lobbyist (a) in 2001 and (b) for the American Family Association. patsw ( talk) 03:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
This is one of the strangest editing disputes I have had. There's a slight difference in wording of the identical idea from this organization's main page and its about page.
https://endsexualexploitation.org
So my edit makes the mission ...which seeks to expose the seamless connection between all forms of sexual exploitation.
ChiveFungi chose from
https://endsexualexploitation.org/about/
CF's edit changes the mission to ...exposing the links between all forms of sexual exploitation
So what's the difference in meaning here that justifies this edit? patsw ( talk) 16:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Or does the Christian Left opposed the goals of the NCOSE?
It seems that sexual exploitation is common ground for all Christians as a matter of social justice. The characterization of NCOSE as on the right politically seems without evidence from the web site itself. If NCOSE is on the right, is every non-profit opposed to sexual exploitation on the right? Is the Me Too movement a movement of the right? Is the Left opposed (or indifferent) to ending sexual exploitation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patsw ( talk • contribs)
I removed it from See Also. I couldn't find any source declaring it to be part of the Christian Right. If there's a source or even a reasoned opinion for relating it to the Christian Right, I'm open to discussion. patsw ( talk) 20:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I simply condensed the see also section to just include a link to religious views on pornography as I feel that is more appropriate Mfernflower ( talk) 04:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
DSM-5-TR, incoming in March 2022, is expected to give the lie to the pornography public health crisis, and thus to the 16 US states legislatures which adopted such resolutions. Sorry, elected politicians, US psychiatrists have spit upon your parliamentary resolutions. tgeorgescu ( talk) 18:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
DSM-5 was revised (version + "TR"). Still no pornography, sex addiction, sex compulsion, etc. There remains insufficient evidence of the existence of these as independent pathologies. psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.pn.2022.1.20tgeorgescu ( talk) 19:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
I have just removed all the content from the lede which was cited to sources not discussing the NCSE. Article ledes aren't a platform for editorialising either about the subject, or on broader topics. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 16:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
References
Excessive use of the Internet not involving playing of online games (e.g., excessive use of social media, such as Facebook; viewing pornography online) is not considered analogous to Internet gaming disorder, and future research on other excessive uses of the Internet would need to follow similar guidelines as suggested herein. Excessive gambling online may qualify for a separate diagnosis of gambling disorder.
In addition to the substance-related disorders, this chapter also includes gambling disorder, reflecting evidence that gambling behaviors activate reward systems similar to those activated by drugs of abuse and that produce some behavioral symptoms that appear comparable to those produced by the substance use disorders. Other excessive behavioral patterns, such as Internet gaming (see "Conditions for Further Study"), have also been described, but the research on these and other behavioral syndromes is less clear. Thus, groups of repetitive behaviors, sometimes termed behavioral addictions (with subcategories such as "sex addiction," "exercise addiction," and "shopping addiction"), are not included because there is insufficient peer-reviewed evidence to establish the diagnostic criteria and course descriptions needed to identify these behaviors as mental disorders.
The medical community does not support the idea of pornography as a public health crisis: Rothman, Emily F. (26 August 2021). "Pornography as a US Public Health Problem". Pornography and Public Health. Oxford University Press. pp. 1–15. doi: 10.1093/oso/9780190075477.003.0001. tgeorgescu ( talk) 03:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
An explanation of how scientists have reacted to pseudoscientific theories should be prominently includedWP:PSCI. tgeorgescu ( talk) 11:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
This is a civil law matter. As argued on live TV about Rupert Murdoch's settlement in respect to Dominion Voting Systems, the civil law does not operate with "guilty" or "not guilty", but with "show me the money". tgeorgescu ( talk) 22:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
logo is missing. unless it is a non-PD. Lellyhatesanimals ( talk) 05:19, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
According to Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/us-far-right-group-influencing-anti-gay-policy-africa?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 2600:100B:B01A:6FE0:8541:109E:FD92:7418 ( talk) 18:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)