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you made a good point. I concede. Although I still don't see why mine was erased and Attention stays. they are both questions on the plot of the show and not the article itself. On some pages I've even seen shout outs that don't get erased. Now I wouldn't do that. And I concede to your point. I just don't see the difference on my section and Attention.
At the end of episode 7, during the credits, the actors were credited as playing Simon and Monty Petrelli. 24.14.120.92 10:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
As fifth episode states, Nathan can't fly as classic superheroes. Like Cannonball, he launchs himself as a rocket. -- KesheR 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Flying through the atmosphere at the height and speed (Which I'll address in a second) causes a serious lack of oxygen as well as freezing temperatures. Does this mean Nathan is invulrenable to both of these things while flying? How does he keep his eyes open to see where he's going?
As for Speed, is there any explanation as to why he can fly faster than the speed of sound but cannot do anything faster than normal? Should either of these abilities be included in his flight ability?
Peteparker
20:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Howdy, is there any reason why, Nate's name in the info box is on a Red background? -- DJ Chair 13:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
In one episode, Chandra Suresh's answering machine is playing a message from Petrelli asking for his vote in the race for New York's 14th congressional district. Is the district he's running in notable enough to include in the article? I guess there's no way to know if it is the same district as in the real world, but in the real world, incumbent Democrat Carolyn B. Maloney has represented the district since 1993 and is currently unopposed for reelection. Alienmercy 15:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
We know he was a lawyer, but was he a prosecutor? He mentions the DA asking to prosecute? Usually, Assistant District Attorneys don't get a choice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.230.65.52 ( talk • contribs) 22:48, November 28, 2006
Should his previous military career really be considered as canon? This is listed in the article, but I don't see much support for it in the episodes. In fact, Nathan once remarks that he doesn't know karate or have a gun. One would assume he'd know some martial arts and have a gun if he were in the service. Jkoudys 03:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I see that someone added that Claire is Nathan's illegitimate daughter. I want to bring it up for discussion: Should we include that word? I would consider it safe to assume, but do we really know if Claire is illegitimate? I don't think that has been addressed in the show or novels yet. Valaqil 15:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Wait until next Monday (or until other official news) to put "illegitimate" in. It looks like Nathan and Meredith are going to talk then, so we should find out for sure. -- Arwen undomiel 20:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think its safe to now. Meredith says Claire was born out of wedlock. -- Arwen undomiel 16:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Nathan was confronted by Mr. Bennet and the Haitian in "Hiros" and managed to fly away despite the Haitian's ability of power negation. Shouldn't this be noted somewhere? Is it Nathan's power to counter-negate the Haitian or something else?
It was never outright stated that the Haitian could negate all powers or it could also be Nathan's power is stronger like when Matt was still able to read one word from Mr. Bennets mind even with the Haitian there.
The article states that he can lift objects "several times his own weight", but neither example given supports this; he dropped his brother in "Genesis", and Claude does not seem heavier that a normal man. Noclevername 00:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I recently read one of the Heroes GN, and in "War Buddies Pt. 5, Introductions" we find out that Linderman worked with Petrelli in the war.. Petrelli already saw Linderman's powers in this graphic novel. Should we add this in? Nocarsgo 14:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
The only detail from this that seemed prudent was that it seemed to give Nathan's age (the comic was set in 1968, at the beginning Dallas gets a note from his wife about Nathan taking his first steps, which puts him at about a year old, and later we see Nathan as a toddler, so it's safe to say he's about 40 years old), so I added this in along with a link to the comics.-- 76.179.82.128 13:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
As I'm reading the article I notice that "weelchair-bound" is very clumsy. Can we state that she is a parapeligic or has this not been referenced? Padillah 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
War Buddies takes place in 1968 and Heroes takes place in 2006. I'd find it odd that Nathan started walking at 2... shouldn't Nathan's be birthday logically be closer to 1967 making him 39 not 40? -- Harlequin212121 20:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Why didn't Peter just fly up into the sky on his own before he "went off"? He could do it since he's absorbed Nathan's power. That way no one would die. Nathan didn't have to fly him up there. HipHopLives 00:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Peter may only use one ability at a time. With Uraniokinesis active (whether he wanted it to be or not), he could not heal, fly, stop time, move objects, phase, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.154.132.102 ( talk) 18:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Hiro did not, under any circumstances, think Nathan's power was the ability to make food crispy!!! He called him "Flying man"! Yes he had an afflicted accent but what he was saying doesn't change. Please refrain from changing it to "frying man", it's incorrect. Padillah 18:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the part where they showed Nathan's car accident was a part of Peter's dream, can it be considered canon?
Gavin Darkstorn 20:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I thought she was just driven away? That could mean separation. I know Matt and Janice are divorced but it never says Heidi and Nathan are divorced, does it? I thought it is stated that he drove them away. If someone can prove this with a quote and around the point (minute mark since I have it recorded), then fine. - Babylon pride 22:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I think that Matt's "divorce" is just a cover for their protection, but it's all we have to go on at the moment (verifiability). I agree with you on Nathan's divorce, though. As far as I know, the episode never said that they were divorced, but Angela said that he drove Heidi and the kids away. KC 23:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
when nathan looks in the mirror. he doesn't see a severely scarred version of himself he infact sees a severely burned version of peter. the burns being from the radiation 74.104.90.230 21:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Umm, yeah. That's my question. Padillah 00:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Did Nathan ever take office? He won the rigged election, correct?-- RLent 15:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Are there any oppostions to my new format ( Electrobe ( talk) 10:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC))
Why was it decided to remove the data about Spouses, Parents, Siblings and Children from the first page character box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abnermisael ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I found an interview with Adrian Pasdar. In it he says Nathan will be returning in the third season. The site is http://tv.ign.com/articles/883/883188p1.html but I don't know if we can consider this a credible source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.126.85 ( talk) 00:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, It was bad enough devoting an entire section to a single episode that was nullified by the season finale but to have an entry based on a brief comment made during a piece of one episode, now we're getting crufty. I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I cannot endorse the mention of Sylars powers in this article. They are unarguably Sylar's powers, not Nathans and placing them here gives the false impression that the two are linked in some way. Also, the recap of "Redemption" does need mention, if only to maintain context if/when Nathan does return, but I think it can be trimmed even more than is there now. We only need to keep the use of the body, but not much else. Padillah ( talk) 14:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Ophois, you say "per discussion is still considered Nathan", per what discussion? I don't remember seeing a discussion of that.
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you made a good point. I concede. Although I still don't see why mine was erased and Attention stays. they are both questions on the plot of the show and not the article itself. On some pages I've even seen shout outs that don't get erased. Now I wouldn't do that. And I concede to your point. I just don't see the difference on my section and Attention.
At the end of episode 7, during the credits, the actors were credited as playing Simon and Monty Petrelli. 24.14.120.92 10:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
As fifth episode states, Nathan can't fly as classic superheroes. Like Cannonball, he launchs himself as a rocket. -- KesheR 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Flying through the atmosphere at the height and speed (Which I'll address in a second) causes a serious lack of oxygen as well as freezing temperatures. Does this mean Nathan is invulrenable to both of these things while flying? How does he keep his eyes open to see where he's going?
As for Speed, is there any explanation as to why he can fly faster than the speed of sound but cannot do anything faster than normal? Should either of these abilities be included in his flight ability?
Peteparker
20:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Howdy, is there any reason why, Nate's name in the info box is on a Red background? -- DJ Chair 13:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
In one episode, Chandra Suresh's answering machine is playing a message from Petrelli asking for his vote in the race for New York's 14th congressional district. Is the district he's running in notable enough to include in the article? I guess there's no way to know if it is the same district as in the real world, but in the real world, incumbent Democrat Carolyn B. Maloney has represented the district since 1993 and is currently unopposed for reelection. Alienmercy 15:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
We know he was a lawyer, but was he a prosecutor? He mentions the DA asking to prosecute? Usually, Assistant District Attorneys don't get a choice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.230.65.52 ( talk • contribs) 22:48, November 28, 2006
Should his previous military career really be considered as canon? This is listed in the article, but I don't see much support for it in the episodes. In fact, Nathan once remarks that he doesn't know karate or have a gun. One would assume he'd know some martial arts and have a gun if he were in the service. Jkoudys 03:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I see that someone added that Claire is Nathan's illegitimate daughter. I want to bring it up for discussion: Should we include that word? I would consider it safe to assume, but do we really know if Claire is illegitimate? I don't think that has been addressed in the show or novels yet. Valaqil 15:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Wait until next Monday (or until other official news) to put "illegitimate" in. It looks like Nathan and Meredith are going to talk then, so we should find out for sure. -- Arwen undomiel 20:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think its safe to now. Meredith says Claire was born out of wedlock. -- Arwen undomiel 16:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Nathan was confronted by Mr. Bennet and the Haitian in "Hiros" and managed to fly away despite the Haitian's ability of power negation. Shouldn't this be noted somewhere? Is it Nathan's power to counter-negate the Haitian or something else?
It was never outright stated that the Haitian could negate all powers or it could also be Nathan's power is stronger like when Matt was still able to read one word from Mr. Bennets mind even with the Haitian there.
The article states that he can lift objects "several times his own weight", but neither example given supports this; he dropped his brother in "Genesis", and Claude does not seem heavier that a normal man. Noclevername 00:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I recently read one of the Heroes GN, and in "War Buddies Pt. 5, Introductions" we find out that Linderman worked with Petrelli in the war.. Petrelli already saw Linderman's powers in this graphic novel. Should we add this in? Nocarsgo 14:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
The only detail from this that seemed prudent was that it seemed to give Nathan's age (the comic was set in 1968, at the beginning Dallas gets a note from his wife about Nathan taking his first steps, which puts him at about a year old, and later we see Nathan as a toddler, so it's safe to say he's about 40 years old), so I added this in along with a link to the comics.-- 76.179.82.128 13:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
As I'm reading the article I notice that "weelchair-bound" is very clumsy. Can we state that she is a parapeligic or has this not been referenced? Padillah 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
War Buddies takes place in 1968 and Heroes takes place in 2006. I'd find it odd that Nathan started walking at 2... shouldn't Nathan's be birthday logically be closer to 1967 making him 39 not 40? -- Harlequin212121 20:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Why didn't Peter just fly up into the sky on his own before he "went off"? He could do it since he's absorbed Nathan's power. That way no one would die. Nathan didn't have to fly him up there. HipHopLives 00:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Peter may only use one ability at a time. With Uraniokinesis active (whether he wanted it to be or not), he could not heal, fly, stop time, move objects, phase, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.154.132.102 ( talk) 18:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Hiro did not, under any circumstances, think Nathan's power was the ability to make food crispy!!! He called him "Flying man"! Yes he had an afflicted accent but what he was saying doesn't change. Please refrain from changing it to "frying man", it's incorrect. Padillah 18:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the part where they showed Nathan's car accident was a part of Peter's dream, can it be considered canon?
Gavin Darkstorn 20:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I thought she was just driven away? That could mean separation. I know Matt and Janice are divorced but it never says Heidi and Nathan are divorced, does it? I thought it is stated that he drove them away. If someone can prove this with a quote and around the point (minute mark since I have it recorded), then fine. - Babylon pride 22:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I think that Matt's "divorce" is just a cover for their protection, but it's all we have to go on at the moment (verifiability). I agree with you on Nathan's divorce, though. As far as I know, the episode never said that they were divorced, but Angela said that he drove Heidi and the kids away. KC 23:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
when nathan looks in the mirror. he doesn't see a severely scarred version of himself he infact sees a severely burned version of peter. the burns being from the radiation 74.104.90.230 21:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Umm, yeah. That's my question. Padillah 00:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Did Nathan ever take office? He won the rigged election, correct?-- RLent 15:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Are there any oppostions to my new format ( Electrobe ( talk) 10:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC))
Why was it decided to remove the data about Spouses, Parents, Siblings and Children from the first page character box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abnermisael ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I found an interview with Adrian Pasdar. In it he says Nathan will be returning in the third season. The site is http://tv.ign.com/articles/883/883188p1.html but I don't know if we can consider this a credible source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.126.85 ( talk) 00:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, It was bad enough devoting an entire section to a single episode that was nullified by the season finale but to have an entry based on a brief comment made during a piece of one episode, now we're getting crufty. I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH ( review me)( help me) 13:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I cannot endorse the mention of Sylars powers in this article. They are unarguably Sylar's powers, not Nathans and placing them here gives the false impression that the two are linked in some way. Also, the recap of "Redemption" does need mention, if only to maintain context if/when Nathan does return, but I think it can be trimmed even more than is there now. We only need to keep the use of the body, but not much else. Padillah ( talk) 14:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Ophois, you say "per discussion is still considered Nathan", per what discussion? I don't remember seeing a discussion of that.
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