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"doctoral degree candidate"

This is odd wording.. a PhD candidate is someone who's finished their coursework and is writing a thesis. The next sentence gives the title of her thesis (AllGov.com calls it a doctoral "project").. so did she graduate or not? Saying she was a "candidate" seems to suggest she never finished, but dances around the issue entirely. Hairhorn ( talk) 01:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Both the sources I looked at described her as a doctoral candidate, but do not indicate that she graduated. So I think it should be fine to describe it in the same manner as those sources. Maybe she began her thesis but never finished, or never had a chance to defend. It's not clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Numera astra ( talkcontribs) 01:26, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply
If she didn't finish, the entry should say so; anything else is obfuscation. Hairhorn ( talk) 02:48, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Well, the sources are ambiguous on that point. Even though they seem to indicate that she didn't finish, they don't explicitly state that, so I don't know if we should extrapolate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Numera astra ( talkcontribs) 16:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

I've tried to pare down the awkward language without extrapolating. Hairhorn ( talk) 19:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Ok, that looks agreeable to me. Numera astra ( talk) 14:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Change infobox?

I looked at the article with Infobox Political post; the infobox seems pretty bare. I suggest switching to Infobox ambassador so that more information can be added in the personal data section. It will provide a better snapshot of Nathalie Cely. Comments? DocTree ( ʞlɐʇ · cont) Join WER 03:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Seems like a fine idea (by the way, thanks for all your help!) Numera astra ( talk) 14:23, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"doctoral degree candidate"

This is odd wording.. a PhD candidate is someone who's finished their coursework and is writing a thesis. The next sentence gives the title of her thesis (AllGov.com calls it a doctoral "project").. so did she graduate or not? Saying she was a "candidate" seems to suggest she never finished, but dances around the issue entirely. Hairhorn ( talk) 01:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Both the sources I looked at described her as a doctoral candidate, but do not indicate that she graduated. So I think it should be fine to describe it in the same manner as those sources. Maybe she began her thesis but never finished, or never had a chance to defend. It's not clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Numera astra ( talkcontribs) 01:26, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply
If she didn't finish, the entry should say so; anything else is obfuscation. Hairhorn ( talk) 02:48, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Well, the sources are ambiguous on that point. Even though they seem to indicate that she didn't finish, they don't explicitly state that, so I don't know if we should extrapolate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Numera astra ( talkcontribs) 16:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

I've tried to pare down the awkward language without extrapolating. Hairhorn ( talk) 19:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Ok, that looks agreeable to me. Numera astra ( talk) 14:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Change infobox?

I looked at the article with Infobox Political post; the infobox seems pretty bare. I suggest switching to Infobox ambassador so that more information can be added in the personal data section. It will provide a better snapshot of Nathalie Cely. Comments? DocTree ( ʞlɐʇ · cont) Join WER 03:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Seems like a fine idea (by the way, thanks for all your help!) Numera astra ( talk) 14:23, 7 September 2012 (UTC) reply


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