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I took out this text, which would be better suited to an article on the history of orca captures. I've copyedited for clarity.
Also this bit, also copyedited:
The text on the movie has also been removed, as it deserves its own entry, if there isn't one on the movie already. Movies typically don't have huge crew listings, but lots of attention is paid to synopses and production, and generally whole entries aren't lifted from some other source (as the quoted comment would suggest). For that reason I'm not quoting the text here.
I removed the potentially libellous and unbiased phrase, "Griffin had become so enthralled by money and fame ..." I'm not a particular fan of the capture of cetaceans for marine mammal parks and zoos, but Wikipedia articles need to remain unbiased.
I'm also going through doing a serious copyedit. I don't know what to do about the clashing American/British spellings (we've got "behavior" but also "sceptical"), so I'm going to leave those for now and let the article's author deal with that, or maybe post their intentions so I can change spelling accordingly.
This is a great article, but in need of a bit of cleanup and needs to cite sources. It could also use some links to other articles. Lomaprieta 01:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I've removed all of the following as it is almost identical to the text here: http://www.rockisland.com/~orcasurv/changing.htm . It needs to be rewritten before it can go back. Kla'quot 06:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Sea World in the late 1980's and early 1990's (if not before) used to use "Namu" as one of its stage/show names for its Orcas during performances. No mention of that is made here. I can't source it yet, as it's from memory of many visits to Sea World of Texas in that timeframe, but it was in their advertising and part of their shows, eg. "Sea World -- home to "Shamu, Namu & Kandu". -
Ageekgal
18:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I corrected a recent edit in which a "precedence" statement was altered in the lead paragraph. The original statement was correct - and consistent with sources / citations - so the edit was reverted. The following brief summary is based on the citations given in this (and the Moby Doll and Shamu articles) and (especially) the PBS and other sources ( [1])
Pugetbill ( talk) 17:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I am having second (third?) thoughts about the rationale for my previous "corrections" (above) to the "precedence" issues in this article. According to reliable sources, "Wanda" (aka "The Newport Specimen") was the first orca (killer whale) ever captured. This is well documented and was never in dispute as far as I know. What seems/seemed less clear (to me anyway) was whether or not Wanda was ever "displayed in a public exhibit" before she died. According to sources, Wanda was captured on Nov 18, 1961 and was introduced into Marineland of the Pacific's giant "oval tank" at 10pm Saturday evening. She expired in that same tank less than 35 hours later at 8:30am on Monday morning, Nov 20, 1961. I still can't find any specific citation that describes the orca as being on "public display" that Sunday, Nov 19, but I also see no mention that Marineland of the Pacific was closed to the public that day or that the oval tank was not available for public viewing. So, unless there is a specific source / citation that states otherwise, it seems much more likely (to me) to assume the tank (and therefore Wanda) was publicly viewable that day. This makes Wanda the first orca captured AND the first to be "displayed in a public exhibit" - even if it was only for one day. I plan to add citations and adjust the relevant language in this article as appropriate. Pugetbill ( talk) 18:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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Rewriting the lead sentence to focus on primary notability. Removing confusing claim: while Wanda was already ailing, Moby Doll the next capture (1964) was healthy in the wild and swimming with his pod until harpooned by his captors. Rebecca Beecham Gotzl ( talk) 12:03, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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I took out this text, which would be better suited to an article on the history of orca captures. I've copyedited for clarity.
Also this bit, also copyedited:
The text on the movie has also been removed, as it deserves its own entry, if there isn't one on the movie already. Movies typically don't have huge crew listings, but lots of attention is paid to synopses and production, and generally whole entries aren't lifted from some other source (as the quoted comment would suggest). For that reason I'm not quoting the text here.
I removed the potentially libellous and unbiased phrase, "Griffin had become so enthralled by money and fame ..." I'm not a particular fan of the capture of cetaceans for marine mammal parks and zoos, but Wikipedia articles need to remain unbiased.
I'm also going through doing a serious copyedit. I don't know what to do about the clashing American/British spellings (we've got "behavior" but also "sceptical"), so I'm going to leave those for now and let the article's author deal with that, or maybe post their intentions so I can change spelling accordingly.
This is a great article, but in need of a bit of cleanup and needs to cite sources. It could also use some links to other articles. Lomaprieta 01:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I've removed all of the following as it is almost identical to the text here: http://www.rockisland.com/~orcasurv/changing.htm . It needs to be rewritten before it can go back. Kla'quot 06:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Sea World in the late 1980's and early 1990's (if not before) used to use "Namu" as one of its stage/show names for its Orcas during performances. No mention of that is made here. I can't source it yet, as it's from memory of many visits to Sea World of Texas in that timeframe, but it was in their advertising and part of their shows, eg. "Sea World -- home to "Shamu, Namu & Kandu". -
Ageekgal
18:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I corrected a recent edit in which a "precedence" statement was altered in the lead paragraph. The original statement was correct - and consistent with sources / citations - so the edit was reverted. The following brief summary is based on the citations given in this (and the Moby Doll and Shamu articles) and (especially) the PBS and other sources ( [1])
Pugetbill ( talk) 17:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I am having second (third?) thoughts about the rationale for my previous "corrections" (above) to the "precedence" issues in this article. According to reliable sources, "Wanda" (aka "The Newport Specimen") was the first orca (killer whale) ever captured. This is well documented and was never in dispute as far as I know. What seems/seemed less clear (to me anyway) was whether or not Wanda was ever "displayed in a public exhibit" before she died. According to sources, Wanda was captured on Nov 18, 1961 and was introduced into Marineland of the Pacific's giant "oval tank" at 10pm Saturday evening. She expired in that same tank less than 35 hours later at 8:30am on Monday morning, Nov 20, 1961. I still can't find any specific citation that describes the orca as being on "public display" that Sunday, Nov 19, but I also see no mention that Marineland of the Pacific was closed to the public that day or that the oval tank was not available for public viewing. So, unless there is a specific source / citation that states otherwise, it seems much more likely (to me) to assume the tank (and therefore Wanda) was publicly viewable that day. This makes Wanda the first orca captured AND the first to be "displayed in a public exhibit" - even if it was only for one day. I plan to add citations and adjust the relevant language in this article as appropriate. Pugetbill ( talk) 18:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
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Rewriting the lead sentence to focus on primary notability. Removing confusing claim: while Wanda was already ailing, Moby Doll the next capture (1964) was healthy in the wild and swimming with his pod until harpooned by his captors. Rebecca Beecham Gotzl ( talk) 12:03, 15 April 2023 (UTC)