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On 21 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 for a record of the discussion. — Korath ( Talk) 00:53, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
From the Article: In Sweden parents can choose from a list of about 1000 names. If they don't find a name to their liking, they could opt for a different one using a petition or by going to court. Since about 2000 the naming rules have been relaxed a little, but are still pretty strict as compared to other European countries: opting for a non-existing name still requires a petition.
Does anyone have a source on this? A Swedish friend just told me there are no such restrictions, and I can't really find anything about it on the web. Darksun 13:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I can't comment on the verification or existance of such a law in Sweden, but I consider it fairly likely, as I know we have such a law in Norway, which shares its eastern border with Sweden. In Norway, you can't give a child a name that would be considered likely to be a source of bullying or a hinderance in their adult life. There has been some controversy over this, as there are several traditional names that are technically illegal under that law, although I doubt they are actually enforcing it in those cases. For instance, it is illegal to use animal names, such as Bjørn (bear) and Varg (wolf), the former being a common name with a long history, and the second being a name that at least isn't unheard of (e.g. Varg Veum). There have been several protests over this here as well. The law appears well-intentioned, but the issue is too complicated to deal with in law without the consequence being that the state meddles excessively in the affairs of ordinary citizens. Questions or replies to my talk page, as I'm just passing through. LovData can provide verification for Norway, at least, and I imagine Sweden has something similar; I can translate if necessary. Zuiram 21:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
So did the kid (who is now, if living, an adult) ever get a name (or, perhaps more precisely, an acceptable—to the government—spelling of his name)? What does he sign now that he's old enough to sign legally binding stuff of his own? -- Haruo 12:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
If there are still doubts about this story, I suggest asking the parents mentioned in the article (Elisabeth Hallin and Lasse Diding). Couple with the same names runs bit extravagant hotel Gastis * [2] (see here - * [3]) in Varberg (small town some 40km north to Halmstad (* [4]). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom.Nasdaq ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Is there an article about Swedish naming laws anywhere? Link9er 16:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
34 § Som förnamn får inte godkännas namn som kan väcka anstöt eller kan antas leda till obehag för den som skall bära det eller namn som av någon annan anledning uppenbarligen inte är lämpligt som förnamn.
which loosely translated means:
First (i.e. 'given') names shall not be approved if they can cause offense or can be supposed to cause discomfort for the one using it, or names which for some obvious reason is not suitable as a first name.
Is Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmmprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 or whatever a name? Names have to have vowels in them thisis not great this may be put for deletion. If you say so le me know. -- Bill and Pete by Tomiede Paola 02:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I think this article is childish and has the taste of yellow journalism. Therefore is not suitable as an entry in a serious encyclopedia. Imagine one day Wikipedia is printed. Who would ever search for such an entry? Please consider it for deletion...
Is this an April Fool's joke? Yanksta x 23:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Note: http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/longname.html cites "Reuters, Boston Globe 30-May-96" as a source. -- The Anome 23:49, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I first seen this name mentioned in a magazine a while back. I remembred about it when this joke question appeared. Kirk 23:53, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
How much is 5000 Kroner? Mark Richards 20:15, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
Roughly GBP £400, €500 or USD $650 Dmn 20:30, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
I am from Laholm (some 20 km south of Halmstad). I remember seeing thios in Hallandsposten, the local newspaper, don't remember exactly when though. Actually, the parents tried another spelling of the name afterwards (read the article), which wasn't approved of either.
It's true: http://www.kulturrad.no/sitefiles/1/postjournal/2006/oktober/off2410-261006.pdf
It doesn't say in the article what name the kid finally got, anyone know? AllanHainey 11:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Probably just Albin or A. 87.74.4.65 11:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
This means that in the UK if he "couldn't be named for legal reasons" he couldn't be called "Child A" because then he'd have been named...? Britmax 10:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
If I had my way, I'd call him Dennis the Menace. -- § Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody ( talk + contribs + userboxes) 21:24, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
How is this real? Are you kidding me? -- 66.218.13.155
I'd pretty much hate my parents if they did this. BirdValiant 21:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Althrough it makes an interesting read, It is NOT a biography, and NOT explanation of anything. It is simply a made up word by the parents in order to supposibly avoid a fine by Swedish courts. This should not be in Wikipedia.
AGREE
If it was to be included in Wikipedia, the most appropriate will be in the List of unusual personal names.
-- drybittermelon ( talk. contribs) 17:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
How tf is Blkjrfhsljfghslkjfg(whatever) pronounced Aibin (or something)? Niko Silver 01:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I've made some merchandise for the Wikipedia store based on this article: [www.cafepress.com/wikipedia/2585476 Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116] section. Let me know what you think on the meta page. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 01:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Is he, and if so, what is his name? A•N•N•A hi! 20:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116
1991 yılında İsveçli bir aile(Elisabeth Hallin and Lasse Diding), İsveçteki "İsim Verme Yasası"nı protesto etmek amacıyla yeni doğan çocuklarına "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116" adını verdi. Devlet tarafından açılan dava sonucunda aile sözü geçen yasaya aykırı davrandıkları için yaklaşık 5,000 kronor( US$ 682 ) lık cezaya çarptırıldılar. Temyize giden aile bu kez çocuklarının adını "A" olarak değiştirmek istediler fakat mahkeme bu isme de karşı çıktı.(language:Turkish)
Hers/his bad. See here. -- Michael Angelkovich ( talk) 22:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow, this looks more like a Hash key than a name :) Can we get some more refrences? Thedjatclubrock :-) ( T/ C) 02:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Per the (declined) speedy; see GNews Hits. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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[6] Might be worth adding to the article. The leftorium 13:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it correct to give direct links from this article to entries about Brfx...11116's case itself in other languages? It's only one of cases having to do with this law. If another one gets so known, then why Brfx...1116 must be of a higher priority? I suggest removal of all interwikis save for he: and sv:, which lead to analogous articles. -- Microcell ( talk) 12:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)\
primarily in order to prevent non-noble families from giving their children the names of noble families. It would be great to have some examples of both.
I was bold and removed this sentence, it is wrong.
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This article needs editing, i will try to make this article better, perhaps translations of swedish wiki articles.
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title says it all 65.113.155.18 ( talk) 21:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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On 21 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 for a record of the discussion. — Korath ( Talk) 00:53, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
From the Article: In Sweden parents can choose from a list of about 1000 names. If they don't find a name to their liking, they could opt for a different one using a petition or by going to court. Since about 2000 the naming rules have been relaxed a little, but are still pretty strict as compared to other European countries: opting for a non-existing name still requires a petition.
Does anyone have a source on this? A Swedish friend just told me there are no such restrictions, and I can't really find anything about it on the web. Darksun 13:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I can't comment on the verification or existance of such a law in Sweden, but I consider it fairly likely, as I know we have such a law in Norway, which shares its eastern border with Sweden. In Norway, you can't give a child a name that would be considered likely to be a source of bullying or a hinderance in their adult life. There has been some controversy over this, as there are several traditional names that are technically illegal under that law, although I doubt they are actually enforcing it in those cases. For instance, it is illegal to use animal names, such as Bjørn (bear) and Varg (wolf), the former being a common name with a long history, and the second being a name that at least isn't unheard of (e.g. Varg Veum). There have been several protests over this here as well. The law appears well-intentioned, but the issue is too complicated to deal with in law without the consequence being that the state meddles excessively in the affairs of ordinary citizens. Questions or replies to my talk page, as I'm just passing through. LovData can provide verification for Norway, at least, and I imagine Sweden has something similar; I can translate if necessary. Zuiram 21:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
So did the kid (who is now, if living, an adult) ever get a name (or, perhaps more precisely, an acceptable—to the government—spelling of his name)? What does he sign now that he's old enough to sign legally binding stuff of his own? -- Haruo 12:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
If there are still doubts about this story, I suggest asking the parents mentioned in the article (Elisabeth Hallin and Lasse Diding). Couple with the same names runs bit extravagant hotel Gastis * [2] (see here - * [3]) in Varberg (small town some 40km north to Halmstad (* [4]). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom.Nasdaq ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Is there an article about Swedish naming laws anywhere? Link9er 16:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
34 § Som förnamn får inte godkännas namn som kan väcka anstöt eller kan antas leda till obehag för den som skall bära det eller namn som av någon annan anledning uppenbarligen inte är lämpligt som förnamn.
which loosely translated means:
First (i.e. 'given') names shall not be approved if they can cause offense or can be supposed to cause discomfort for the one using it, or names which for some obvious reason is not suitable as a first name.
Is Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmmprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 or whatever a name? Names have to have vowels in them thisis not great this may be put for deletion. If you say so le me know. -- Bill and Pete by Tomiede Paola 02:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I think this article is childish and has the taste of yellow journalism. Therefore is not suitable as an entry in a serious encyclopedia. Imagine one day Wikipedia is printed. Who would ever search for such an entry? Please consider it for deletion...
Is this an April Fool's joke? Yanksta x 23:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Note: http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/longname.html cites "Reuters, Boston Globe 30-May-96" as a source. -- The Anome 23:49, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I first seen this name mentioned in a magazine a while back. I remembred about it when this joke question appeared. Kirk 23:53, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
How much is 5000 Kroner? Mark Richards 20:15, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
Roughly GBP £400, €500 or USD $650 Dmn 20:30, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
I am from Laholm (some 20 km south of Halmstad). I remember seeing thios in Hallandsposten, the local newspaper, don't remember exactly when though. Actually, the parents tried another spelling of the name afterwards (read the article), which wasn't approved of either.
It's true: http://www.kulturrad.no/sitefiles/1/postjournal/2006/oktober/off2410-261006.pdf
It doesn't say in the article what name the kid finally got, anyone know? AllanHainey 11:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Probably just Albin or A. 87.74.4.65 11:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
This means that in the UK if he "couldn't be named for legal reasons" he couldn't be called "Child A" because then he'd have been named...? Britmax 10:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
If I had my way, I'd call him Dennis the Menace. -- § Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody ( talk + contribs + userboxes) 21:24, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
How is this real? Are you kidding me? -- 66.218.13.155
I'd pretty much hate my parents if they did this. BirdValiant 21:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Althrough it makes an interesting read, It is NOT a biography, and NOT explanation of anything. It is simply a made up word by the parents in order to supposibly avoid a fine by Swedish courts. This should not be in Wikipedia.
AGREE
If it was to be included in Wikipedia, the most appropriate will be in the List of unusual personal names.
-- drybittermelon ( talk. contribs) 17:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
How tf is Blkjrfhsljfghslkjfg(whatever) pronounced Aibin (or something)? Niko Silver 01:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I've made some merchandise for the Wikipedia store based on this article: [www.cafepress.com/wikipedia/2585476 Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116] section. Let me know what you think on the meta page. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 01:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Is he, and if so, what is his name? A•N•N•A hi! 20:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116
1991 yılında İsveçli bir aile(Elisabeth Hallin and Lasse Diding), İsveçteki "İsim Verme Yasası"nı protesto etmek amacıyla yeni doğan çocuklarına "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116" adını verdi. Devlet tarafından açılan dava sonucunda aile sözü geçen yasaya aykırı davrandıkları için yaklaşık 5,000 kronor( US$ 682 ) lık cezaya çarptırıldılar. Temyize giden aile bu kez çocuklarının adını "A" olarak değiştirmek istediler fakat mahkeme bu isme de karşı çıktı.(language:Turkish)
Hers/his bad. See here. -- Michael Angelkovich ( talk) 22:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow, this looks more like a Hash key than a name :) Can we get some more refrences? Thedjatclubrock :-) ( T/ C) 02:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Per the (declined) speedy; see GNews Hits. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
[6] Might be worth adding to the article. The leftorium 13:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it correct to give direct links from this article to entries about Brfx...11116's case itself in other languages? It's only one of cases having to do with this law. If another one gets so known, then why Brfx...1116 must be of a higher priority? I suggest removal of all interwikis save for he: and sv:, which lead to analogous articles. -- Microcell ( talk) 12:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)\
primarily in order to prevent non-noble families from giving their children the names of noble families. It would be great to have some examples of both.
I was bold and removed this sentence, it is wrong.
Pat8548 (
talk) 19:59, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
This article needs editing, i will try to make this article better, perhaps translations of swedish wiki articles.
Pat8548 (
talk)
20:10, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
title says it all 65.113.155.18 ( talk) 21:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)