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I accidentally sent before finishing the Summary, while removing this addition from "See also" (where it didn't belong):
Biblical Viewpoint
Belshazzar was not the son of Nabonidus. He was the son of Nebuchadnezzer - Daniel 5:2
The British Museum makes the following notes on the Cylinder of Nabonidus.
"Nabonidus came to the throne after the assassination of two of the successors of Nebuchadnezzar" This lines up with the Biblical account - Dan 5:30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
The kingdom was them conquered by Darius.
The Lion's Den Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom. All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellors, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree.
Nabonidus could have been one of these presidents or princes.
Daniel himself is also referred to by Nebuchadnezzar as "Belteshazzar" a slight variation of Belshazzar.
Dan 4:19 Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar
Aside from being in the wrong section, it does not reflect research into the oldest (pre Theodotion Greek & Dead Sea) versions of Daniel, that demonstrate that much scribal confusion of names took place by copyists and translators in the later Masoretic text. Nabonidus (Nabu-na'id) is nowhere mentioned by name in Daniel, but somewhere along the line his person seems to have been confused or conflated with Nebuchadnezzar (Nabu-kudurri-utsur); however Nabonidus (N-B-N-'Y) and his seven year sojourn are mentioned on one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Also, this is not the right place for a discussion of all the various forms, in versions of Daniel, of Belshazzar's and Daniel's similar or identical names (eg, Balthasor, etc.)... -- ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 19:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
-- ericlpearl Mon Mar 10 18:15:06 PDT 2008 Hope this goes here. I noticed above what appears to be a Biblical quotation regarding Darius the Mede. "The kingdom was then conquered by Darius." Not sure which version this was but:
KJV: 5:31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, ....
NIV: 5:31 and Darius the Mede took over the kingdom, ...
Cyrus has always been known as the conqueror but it seems Darius became the eventual administrator.
Ericlpearl 24.68.53.218 ( talk) 07:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC) It was mentioned in the article "Modern perceptions of Nabonidus' reign has been heavily coloured by accounts written well after his reign as king of Babylonia, notably by the Persians and the Greeks, as well as in the Hebrew Bible." I know that the Persians and Greeks mentioned Nabonidus but where in the Bible was he mentioned?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericlpearl ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
This page on Nabonidus is rather horrifying for its lac of useful content about Nabonidus, who was a strange and interesting king.
Daniel is rather inconsequential to the life of this ruler except for the fact that he was a model for the later portrayal of Nebuchadnezzar.
The article needs to have all the Daniel stuff either herded into a small corner or eradicated totally. There is next to nothing about Nabonidus.
Working from memory, as I don't have the texts available now, Nitocris is not a connection that anyone in Assyriology holds as a historical connection with Nabonidus. It is merely overworking Herodotus, whose knowledge of Mesopotamia was never particularly good. The mene mene tekel stuff should be omitted as dross in the article. Instead the material about his mother is useful, because she is given such an elevated position, that it must have been a means to elevate his own position. Also, some effort has been taken to understand the stay in Teyma to be efforts to establish alternate trading directions with Persia taking trade that once went to Babylon.
The stay in Teyma and its effect on the Babylonians is important, because it seem sthat Babylon wasn't conquered but opened its doors to Cyrus's representatives.
Please, someone with the relevant literature at hand do something about this page!
--
Ihutchesson
15:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I am ready to work on this article, but I won't be able to do anything before February. I went to a seminar on Nabonidus and the cult of Sin and I have sufficient data and bibliography to write a longer article. I just need some time, if you can leave me the right to update this, I'm very interested in Nabonidus and I have a lot of information which is hard to find normally.
This article is disappointing indeed. Especially the first paragraph; it's a total misenterpretation of the role of this great King.
The relief in the picture is attributed to Nabonidus, but we are not yet sure (since there is no name on it) if it really represents this King.
Keltica - 16/01/2007
--
Keltica
20:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
There's a lot that could be done to improve this article - there's a huge chunk in the middle about Belshazzar for some reason, and there's a distressing lack of sources being cited. I think this could benefit from a "needs cleanup" tag, or a "needs sources" tag, or both, but I'm hesitant to add either before I start looking into this a bit further (and looking more into the usual WP protocols for tagging articles). Fumoses 17:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I have now completely re-written the page (sorry for the typo in the revision summary). I am not completely knowledgable on Nabonidus, but I thought that these were some basic assyriological essentials that should have been said (instead of the traditional stuff that was there before). I do not know much about his reign in detail (I am working on the capture of Babylon by Cyrus) or of relevant reliefs and iconography, and my bibliography is obviously incomplete too. Nonetheless, as I said, I do think that my revision is basically in line with current scholarly opinions - but feel free to add and/or edit, and please supply further bibliographical references if you have them.
Cheimoon 11:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
EliasAlucard wrote the following (17:34, 23 October 2007):
"revert, totally original research and POV representation, while you may be right, I do take Parpola's opinion as a higher authority at the moment"
I am sorry, but this is nonsense. I suppose 'original research and POV representation' refer to my revision. If so, and also in general, it should be clear that my revision is not connected to my personal ideas on this subject, but to the current communis opinio in the scholarly world. The original version however (with EliasAlucard restored) represents the traditional view on the subject, based solely on the Old Testament and Herodotus. As usual, the layman's/public's view adhere to traditional ideas. While academics go on, it takes a long time before the progression they achieve reaches the general public. Since the Neo-Babylonians (apart from the Jewish Exile) and the Persians do not find much general interest, this applies especially to Nabonidus. However, scholarly views did change, and indeed quite a lot, to the extreme of now being almost the opposite of the traditional stories. To find out about that, consult the currently most used handbooks in universities (limiting myself to English here):
Of course, being handbooks, these cover the relevant period only cursorily. But this subject has received quite some attention in the last two decades, for which see mainly the following studies (I cannot help it if these are not all available to you, but I am referring to these nonetheless, as one cannot possibly form an opinion about this subject without being up to date with the latest scholarly literature!):
As you see: my version has got absolutely nothing to do with 'POV'; it is based on what is being written on the subject nowadays by academics. And regarding your point on Simo Parpola: I am afraid that the opinions of the people listed above will have to be valued higher than his in this matter. All of these are specialists in the relevant fields, either in Neo-Babylonian or in Persian history and culture (you can look them up online to check this if you wish). Simo Parpola on the other hand is a Neo-Assyriologist, whose views on the post-Neo-Assyrian history and culture of Mesopotamia are contested in academic circles, because they have - sometimes - a tendency towards Assyriocentrism (which, again, is not just my personal opinion, but can be gleaned from reading the relevant literature). However, there's no real need to discuss Simo Parpola's credentials in this matter, as all his article refers to regarding the older version of this page which you restored, is Nabonibus' possible Assyrian descend. Even though this is not quite as certain as Parpola says, it has got nothing to do with the entire rest of the old version.
Because of all this, I am now restoring the version that I wrote. If you are going to restore yours again, then I really do expect some argumentation for this, referring to modern scholarly literature (and not just Parpola, whom I just showed hardly discusses Nabonidus). I suppose that is what this discussion page is for.
P.s.: I see now that I omitted that it is being thought that Nabonidus in his royal propaganda and imagery seems to have been referring to Ashurbanipal, the last great Neo-Assyrian king. I will now add this to my version.
Cheimoon 18:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have attempted another large rewrite (which is why I am starting this on the left again - and also because this bit would otherwise become very long in number of lines...). I have read some more on Nabonidus, so I could include better information. However, I also see now that my previous version was written too much as a scholarly article, instead of an encyclopedia entry. So I hope it is better this way (re. the comment directly above: I agree on accuracy/expertise vs. political correctness - but nonetheless, regarding the writing style, I could have done much better initially). Some content-related issues: I have deleted the section on the Old Testament. All of this also features in the articles Cyrus (Bible) and The writing on the wall. And it is much more appropriate there, too, as it has little to do with historical reconstructions or common opinion (Wikipedia being a-religious and all that; there are probably some great abbreviations for this!). Then, I have changed the bit on Nabonidus' religous policy, to allow different academic opinions to shine through.
Finally (I mention this specifically because we have discussed it before), I have put a slight bit more doubt on Nabonidus' Assyrian account. For having gone to through the relevant primary and secondary sources for my own studies, I have found only one refernce to this, i.e., the one by Mayer (1998). Parpola fully draws upon this without adding new information. But Mayer's reconstruction is completely hypothetical. He says that Nabonidus' mother is a temple priestess of Sîn, important in Babylon and from Harran, so that she must have been royal. And therefore, he links here to the brother of Ashurbanipal, making Nabonidus a nephew of the latter. But there is just no evidence for this. Instead of a priestess, Nabonidus' mother may have been just an important person who payed for temple reconstruction and therefore had a building inscription made, exactly as kings do (Amélie Kuhrt (I think it was) suggests this somewhere, but I can't remember the exact quote). There is also no evidence that she was born in Harran, plus that Nabonidus' reference to Ashurbanipal means nothing, as Cyrus after him does the same (again in Kuhrt, I think 2007, "Ancient Near Easter..."). Of course, there are no other theories concerning Nabonidus' descent, but still, the idea of him being an Assyrian is as valid as anything else anyone can come up with that does not contradict the sources (the scarcity of which makes that there are so many possibilities that no-one attempts this). So I think the matter is unclear enough to express it with somewhat less certainty here. After all, this 'certainty' is just Mayer's personal opinion, followed only by Parpola, but nowhere else.
So perhaps that tag about the need of an expert can go now? Cheimoon ( talk) 01:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The line about so-called Orientalism seems misplaced. As the late Prof. Said basically lumped all of the study of non-Western antiquities in with some obscure imperialist project, I guess by definition the study of ancient Mesopotamia is "Orientalist." The author does not show how "Orientalism" has distorted his subject's image. If by "Orientalist," he meant "popular misconceptions based on an over-reliance on Western sources," he should simply say so, if for no other reason than for the sake of clarity. Evan Siegel ( talk) 19:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
"Similarly, his mother, who lived to high age and may have been connected to the temple of the moongod Sîn in Harran, in her inscriptions does not mention her descent."
Does this mother have a name? Dimadick ( talk) 18:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
<quote>While some claim that it is obvious from his inscriptions that he became almost henotheistic,[5] others consider Nabonidus to have been a regular ruler, who properly respected the other cults in his kingdom, including the traditional construction works to their temples.[6]</quote>
This sentence contains two statements which are both sourced, but the word "while" suggests that there is a contradiction between them, and the presence of such a contradiction is not obvious and could be original research. Nabonidus could have been personally henotheistic and yet "properly respected" the other cults. He could have been officially henotheistic on state-level (Hindu-style) and yet respected them properly. If some authors say directly that he disrespected or attacked other cults, that can be attributed to them, but the claim that he was a henotheist alone does not automatically imply it and can't be used as a source for it.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 17:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I am a chance observer (directed by a suggestion bot for editing) to this article and notice that a recent dispute over what era is in place in the text. After some comparison of past versions I see that: a) reference is made to the ERA policy which, I see, gives primacy to the earliest established convention; b) the convention has been changed several times patchily but not in harmony, but, editors who have introduced BCE are often ignored so causing the current mixture of usage while those who restore the BC convention are usually speedily reverted so perpetuating the current mixture; c) the mixed system currently used is not in keeping with the policy on era. I am harmonising the article without prejudice to other editors.-- Mevagiss ( talk) 12:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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I find this statement in the lead a bit difficult to parse. What about, to pick an arbitrary example from thousands, Barham Salih? It seems it is either missing the qualifier "in antiquity" or is using some special sense of the term "Mesopotamian" that ought to be explained (and perhaps questioned). – Joe ( talk) 15:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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I accidentally sent before finishing the Summary, while removing this addition from "See also" (where it didn't belong):
Biblical Viewpoint
Belshazzar was not the son of Nabonidus. He was the son of Nebuchadnezzer - Daniel 5:2
The British Museum makes the following notes on the Cylinder of Nabonidus.
"Nabonidus came to the throne after the assassination of two of the successors of Nebuchadnezzar" This lines up with the Biblical account - Dan 5:30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
The kingdom was them conquered by Darius.
The Lion's Den Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom. All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellors, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree.
Nabonidus could have been one of these presidents or princes.
Daniel himself is also referred to by Nebuchadnezzar as "Belteshazzar" a slight variation of Belshazzar.
Dan 4:19 Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar
Aside from being in the wrong section, it does not reflect research into the oldest (pre Theodotion Greek & Dead Sea) versions of Daniel, that demonstrate that much scribal confusion of names took place by copyists and translators in the later Masoretic text. Nabonidus (Nabu-na'id) is nowhere mentioned by name in Daniel, but somewhere along the line his person seems to have been confused or conflated with Nebuchadnezzar (Nabu-kudurri-utsur); however Nabonidus (N-B-N-'Y) and his seven year sojourn are mentioned on one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Also, this is not the right place for a discussion of all the various forms, in versions of Daniel, of Belshazzar's and Daniel's similar or identical names (eg, Balthasor, etc.)... -- ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 19:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
-- ericlpearl Mon Mar 10 18:15:06 PDT 2008 Hope this goes here. I noticed above what appears to be a Biblical quotation regarding Darius the Mede. "The kingdom was then conquered by Darius." Not sure which version this was but:
KJV: 5:31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, ....
NIV: 5:31 and Darius the Mede took over the kingdom, ...
Cyrus has always been known as the conqueror but it seems Darius became the eventual administrator.
Ericlpearl 24.68.53.218 ( talk) 07:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC) It was mentioned in the article "Modern perceptions of Nabonidus' reign has been heavily coloured by accounts written well after his reign as king of Babylonia, notably by the Persians and the Greeks, as well as in the Hebrew Bible." I know that the Persians and Greeks mentioned Nabonidus but where in the Bible was he mentioned?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericlpearl ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
This page on Nabonidus is rather horrifying for its lac of useful content about Nabonidus, who was a strange and interesting king.
Daniel is rather inconsequential to the life of this ruler except for the fact that he was a model for the later portrayal of Nebuchadnezzar.
The article needs to have all the Daniel stuff either herded into a small corner or eradicated totally. There is next to nothing about Nabonidus.
Working from memory, as I don't have the texts available now, Nitocris is not a connection that anyone in Assyriology holds as a historical connection with Nabonidus. It is merely overworking Herodotus, whose knowledge of Mesopotamia was never particularly good. The mene mene tekel stuff should be omitted as dross in the article. Instead the material about his mother is useful, because she is given such an elevated position, that it must have been a means to elevate his own position. Also, some effort has been taken to understand the stay in Teyma to be efforts to establish alternate trading directions with Persia taking trade that once went to Babylon.
The stay in Teyma and its effect on the Babylonians is important, because it seem sthat Babylon wasn't conquered but opened its doors to Cyrus's representatives.
Please, someone with the relevant literature at hand do something about this page!
--
Ihutchesson
15:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I am ready to work on this article, but I won't be able to do anything before February. I went to a seminar on Nabonidus and the cult of Sin and I have sufficient data and bibliography to write a longer article. I just need some time, if you can leave me the right to update this, I'm very interested in Nabonidus and I have a lot of information which is hard to find normally.
This article is disappointing indeed. Especially the first paragraph; it's a total misenterpretation of the role of this great King.
The relief in the picture is attributed to Nabonidus, but we are not yet sure (since there is no name on it) if it really represents this King.
Keltica - 16/01/2007
--
Keltica
20:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
There's a lot that could be done to improve this article - there's a huge chunk in the middle about Belshazzar for some reason, and there's a distressing lack of sources being cited. I think this could benefit from a "needs cleanup" tag, or a "needs sources" tag, or both, but I'm hesitant to add either before I start looking into this a bit further (and looking more into the usual WP protocols for tagging articles). Fumoses 17:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I have now completely re-written the page (sorry for the typo in the revision summary). I am not completely knowledgable on Nabonidus, but I thought that these were some basic assyriological essentials that should have been said (instead of the traditional stuff that was there before). I do not know much about his reign in detail (I am working on the capture of Babylon by Cyrus) or of relevant reliefs and iconography, and my bibliography is obviously incomplete too. Nonetheless, as I said, I do think that my revision is basically in line with current scholarly opinions - but feel free to add and/or edit, and please supply further bibliographical references if you have them.
Cheimoon 11:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
EliasAlucard wrote the following (17:34, 23 October 2007):
"revert, totally original research and POV representation, while you may be right, I do take Parpola's opinion as a higher authority at the moment"
I am sorry, but this is nonsense. I suppose 'original research and POV representation' refer to my revision. If so, and also in general, it should be clear that my revision is not connected to my personal ideas on this subject, but to the current communis opinio in the scholarly world. The original version however (with EliasAlucard restored) represents the traditional view on the subject, based solely on the Old Testament and Herodotus. As usual, the layman's/public's view adhere to traditional ideas. While academics go on, it takes a long time before the progression they achieve reaches the general public. Since the Neo-Babylonians (apart from the Jewish Exile) and the Persians do not find much general interest, this applies especially to Nabonidus. However, scholarly views did change, and indeed quite a lot, to the extreme of now being almost the opposite of the traditional stories. To find out about that, consult the currently most used handbooks in universities (limiting myself to English here):
Of course, being handbooks, these cover the relevant period only cursorily. But this subject has received quite some attention in the last two decades, for which see mainly the following studies (I cannot help it if these are not all available to you, but I am referring to these nonetheless, as one cannot possibly form an opinion about this subject without being up to date with the latest scholarly literature!):
As you see: my version has got absolutely nothing to do with 'POV'; it is based on what is being written on the subject nowadays by academics. And regarding your point on Simo Parpola: I am afraid that the opinions of the people listed above will have to be valued higher than his in this matter. All of these are specialists in the relevant fields, either in Neo-Babylonian or in Persian history and culture (you can look them up online to check this if you wish). Simo Parpola on the other hand is a Neo-Assyriologist, whose views on the post-Neo-Assyrian history and culture of Mesopotamia are contested in academic circles, because they have - sometimes - a tendency towards Assyriocentrism (which, again, is not just my personal opinion, but can be gleaned from reading the relevant literature). However, there's no real need to discuss Simo Parpola's credentials in this matter, as all his article refers to regarding the older version of this page which you restored, is Nabonibus' possible Assyrian descend. Even though this is not quite as certain as Parpola says, it has got nothing to do with the entire rest of the old version.
Because of all this, I am now restoring the version that I wrote. If you are going to restore yours again, then I really do expect some argumentation for this, referring to modern scholarly literature (and not just Parpola, whom I just showed hardly discusses Nabonidus). I suppose that is what this discussion page is for.
P.s.: I see now that I omitted that it is being thought that Nabonidus in his royal propaganda and imagery seems to have been referring to Ashurbanipal, the last great Neo-Assyrian king. I will now add this to my version.
Cheimoon 18:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have attempted another large rewrite (which is why I am starting this on the left again - and also because this bit would otherwise become very long in number of lines...). I have read some more on Nabonidus, so I could include better information. However, I also see now that my previous version was written too much as a scholarly article, instead of an encyclopedia entry. So I hope it is better this way (re. the comment directly above: I agree on accuracy/expertise vs. political correctness - but nonetheless, regarding the writing style, I could have done much better initially). Some content-related issues: I have deleted the section on the Old Testament. All of this also features in the articles Cyrus (Bible) and The writing on the wall. And it is much more appropriate there, too, as it has little to do with historical reconstructions or common opinion (Wikipedia being a-religious and all that; there are probably some great abbreviations for this!). Then, I have changed the bit on Nabonidus' religous policy, to allow different academic opinions to shine through.
Finally (I mention this specifically because we have discussed it before), I have put a slight bit more doubt on Nabonidus' Assyrian account. For having gone to through the relevant primary and secondary sources for my own studies, I have found only one refernce to this, i.e., the one by Mayer (1998). Parpola fully draws upon this without adding new information. But Mayer's reconstruction is completely hypothetical. He says that Nabonidus' mother is a temple priestess of Sîn, important in Babylon and from Harran, so that she must have been royal. And therefore, he links here to the brother of Ashurbanipal, making Nabonidus a nephew of the latter. But there is just no evidence for this. Instead of a priestess, Nabonidus' mother may have been just an important person who payed for temple reconstruction and therefore had a building inscription made, exactly as kings do (Amélie Kuhrt (I think it was) suggests this somewhere, but I can't remember the exact quote). There is also no evidence that she was born in Harran, plus that Nabonidus' reference to Ashurbanipal means nothing, as Cyrus after him does the same (again in Kuhrt, I think 2007, "Ancient Near Easter..."). Of course, there are no other theories concerning Nabonidus' descent, but still, the idea of him being an Assyrian is as valid as anything else anyone can come up with that does not contradict the sources (the scarcity of which makes that there are so many possibilities that no-one attempts this). So I think the matter is unclear enough to express it with somewhat less certainty here. After all, this 'certainty' is just Mayer's personal opinion, followed only by Parpola, but nowhere else.
So perhaps that tag about the need of an expert can go now? Cheimoon ( talk) 01:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The line about so-called Orientalism seems misplaced. As the late Prof. Said basically lumped all of the study of non-Western antiquities in with some obscure imperialist project, I guess by definition the study of ancient Mesopotamia is "Orientalist." The author does not show how "Orientalism" has distorted his subject's image. If by "Orientalist," he meant "popular misconceptions based on an over-reliance on Western sources," he should simply say so, if for no other reason than for the sake of clarity. Evan Siegel ( talk) 19:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
"Similarly, his mother, who lived to high age and may have been connected to the temple of the moongod Sîn in Harran, in her inscriptions does not mention her descent."
Does this mother have a name? Dimadick ( talk) 18:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
<quote>While some claim that it is obvious from his inscriptions that he became almost henotheistic,[5] others consider Nabonidus to have been a regular ruler, who properly respected the other cults in his kingdom, including the traditional construction works to their temples.[6]</quote>
This sentence contains two statements which are both sourced, but the word "while" suggests that there is a contradiction between them, and the presence of such a contradiction is not obvious and could be original research. Nabonidus could have been personally henotheistic and yet "properly respected" the other cults. He could have been officially henotheistic on state-level (Hindu-style) and yet respected them properly. If some authors say directly that he disrespected or attacked other cults, that can be attributed to them, but the claim that he was a henotheist alone does not automatically imply it and can't be used as a source for it.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 17:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I am a chance observer (directed by a suggestion bot for editing) to this article and notice that a recent dispute over what era is in place in the text. After some comparison of past versions I see that: a) reference is made to the ERA policy which, I see, gives primacy to the earliest established convention; b) the convention has been changed several times patchily but not in harmony, but, editors who have introduced BCE are often ignored so causing the current mixture of usage while those who restore the BC convention are usually speedily reverted so perpetuating the current mixture; c) the mixed system currently used is not in keeping with the policy on era. I am harmonising the article without prejudice to other editors.-- Mevagiss ( talk) 12:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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I find this statement in the lead a bit difficult to parse. What about, to pick an arbitrary example from thousands, Barham Salih? It seems it is either missing the qualifier "in antiquity" or is using some special sense of the term "Mesopotamian" that ought to be explained (and perhaps questioned). – Joe ( talk) 15:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)