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Should we list title defenses here, since it's so early in the reign? Like how Rollins defended against Michael McGillicutty? Not even sure why that guy who Seth already beat in tournament got a shot before untried guys like Big E or Bray Wyatt. Ranze ( talk) 21:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Shouldnt this article have a photo of the title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.66.76.254 ( talk) 20:27, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Should Zayn's reign really be counted? It's my understanding that a restarted match is basically treated as though it never ended, and thus it just goes down as a successful retain for Dallas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Before this page gets protected from edit warring, let's talk about the Combined reigns section and if this page needs it or not. Most of the reigns will be only one reign, but the WWE (or for this matter NXT) will make someone a two or more time champion one day. Right now we don't need it since everyone has only one reign and whoever won and lost it has been promoted to the main roster, with the exception of Sami Zayn. Zayn might become champion again if they want him to do it again.-- Keith Okamoto ( talk) 00:06, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
The combined reigns section is included because of statistics. It shows the exact number of days each person held the title. It is not exactly about multiple reigns, it is about reigns in general. There is no consensus that it takes two reigns to have the table. The table is to exist as long as there are multiple champions.-- Will C 21:24, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
As far as I recall, there was never a project discussion on the format to lists. The only discussion took place at FL, where all notable information is to be included. That includes all statistics regarding a championship. I should know, I've been dealing with championships and lists are years.-- Will C 03:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
That is taken into account because you don't have to perform an option to get the information. I could get the information that someone won the title twice without needing the table as well by doing the same function. You are arguing against yourself now for even having the table in general. I could add up all the reigns in my head and get the information the table would give in any list. Though the table still reflects it without me needing to do any action. As a reader I could get that information with a little work. We could list just who won the belt and get the rest of the info by looking at bios. Articles are meant to be informative and well done. This gives all information in an orderly fashion.-- Will C 09:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
They just don't know.-- Will C 13:23, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
See, here you go again presenting points that in actuality don't work. For instance, you said; The table will be in the article anyway'. That's crystal balling because this is a developmental promotion with a high turnover of talent, not a core promotion with long term "residents" (for want of a better word). So the additional point of the make up of the table resembles snowballing. And you said The table is about combined reigns. There are no two reigns but it displays important information, ignoring the fact that the important information you speak of already exists in the main table with the list of champions. So it's duplicating existing information. One click on the arrow after days held is all that's needed. It's simple and renders the combined reigns table redundant until we get a two time champion. All information is there without the combined reigns table so there is nothing to add. To say otherwise is, as HHH pedigree said, absurd. Mega Z090 ( talk) 23:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Problem is you've been arguing that it is needed when 2 reigns happen. I am arguing it is either needed now or not until 3 or 4 people have 2 reigns.-- Will C 08:29, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
cough cough.-- Will C 23:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
You really should look at the undue weight issue here. I'm not trying to give a minority view of the NXT Title undue weight over the majority view. The content of the article is largely unaffected with the table inclusion regarding neutrality. Arguing over that policy is pointless because it doesn't apply to this subject. Please explain how including the table is giving undue weight to any other view? What large view is against discussing all statistics of an article? Did you even look at that policy before citing it? Notability and including all information shouldn't be ignored. This discussion is at the main page over there and it appears that not everyone is in agreement with this issue. Most just don't care it appears.-- Will C 06:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Should we keep the combined reigns table, or should it be deleted? Mega Z090 ( talk) 07:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
So why are the NXT championships not titled "WWE NXT Championship", "WWE NXT Women's Championship", and "WWE NXT Tag Team Championship"? The NXT article here is WWE NXT, not NXT. They are owned by WWE, NXT is just the "brand". WWE is included on all of the articles of all of their current main show titles, even the Raw and SmackDown exclusive ones are WWE Raw ( Women's/ Tag Team) Championship and WWE SmackDown ( Women's/ Tag Team) Championship. -- JDC808 ♫ 21:33, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Per WP:PW/SG, when a championship has 10+ reigns we can split into a list of champions article. Is it time for List of NXT Champions? LM2000 ( talk) 09:16, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
My edit was deleted. On the February 24, 2020 episode of Raw, during his sit down interview, Drew McIntyre himself said that he had never been a world champion in WWE. Please remove all references to this belt being a world title.
Please don't add the claim that this belt is a "world" championship without a source that isn't WWE itself. This doesn't pass the Wikipedia sourcing guidelines, sources need to be independent of the subject in this case. Egaoblai ( talk) 15:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
No evidence of WWE referring to the NXT title as a world championship. The archived WWE.com reference failed to support the preceding "world title" claim. Amoeni ( talk) 16:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I see there was a discussion about if this should be called a World title and it appeared to be agreed that it should not, however the opening line of the article stated the title as such, so I have since edited it. 68.196.72.173 ( talk) 13:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Updated to remove "world" championship 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
My edit of removing "world" championship continues to be changed back. Not sure why as it was agreed to be removed. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
WWE is notorious for being inconsistent with stuff like this and other continuity. On February 24th 2020 Drew McIntyre flat out said that he has never been a world champion. Just because Edge showed up on NXT one night for a ratings pop and later gave his opinion to the Miz that it is world title shouldn't be the be all end all, its a world title again. Until WWE flat out acknowledges it themselves on TV or in writing, I think McIntyre's statement on his road to Mania 37 holds the most ground. Even Finn Balor, in his Bleacher Report interview in February 2021, said he "THINKS" all the titles "SHOULD" be held at the same level. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 17:11, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
And next year when Big E. wins his "first world championship" as per WWE, we'll change it back. Company is a joke. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 00:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Should the NXT Championship be described as a world championship? LM2000 ( talk) 23:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
So, 10 days later, should we removed the World title part? -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 09:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I thought this site worked on facts only and not spoilers? Despite the picture going around that shows Keith Lee holding the NXT Title after the Great American Bash, there is no confirmation from WWE that he is Champion. It is possible that they filmed two endings. Please keep Adam Cole as the current champion until WWE show the next episode of NXT on July 8th. Any attempts to put Lee back as Champion before then will be changed back to Cole.
Now that some new info has been revealed, let's try this again.
NXT Title a World Title? Vjmlhds (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm going to post the paragraph from the link Vjmlhds posted above:
Returning from injury, Edge started this year’s Royal Rumble Match at No. 1 and outlasted 29 other Superstars to earn the right to to challenge the World Champion of his choosing at The Showcase of the Immortals. In the wake of his Herculean effort, The Rated-R Superstar traveled first to Raw to inform WWE Champion Drew McIntyre that whomever he decided to face, he would be walking out of The Show of Shows with the World Title. He then ventured to NXT and put both NXT Champion Finn Bálor and Pete Dunne on notice as well.
I think it's totally fair if you read this and conclude WWE just declared this a world title with this post. I think it's also fair to say that it says "Edge went to Raw and said he was going to fight a world champion. Then he went to NXT and confronted two of their top stars." The problem with this dispute, and the reason it keeps popping up year after year, is because WWE has contradicted themselves on whether this counts as a world title. I don't even know if WWE know if they count it as a world title at this point. But after a big part of last year's biggest angle included a storyline where former NXT Champion Drew chased after a world title because he never won one, while the women's Royal Rumble winner did decide to face the NXT Women's Champion, I think we just need better confirmation before we change things. LM2000 ( talk) 20:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict): LM2000, regardless if WWE contradict themselves, this is the most recent proof of WWE calling it a world championship, and the second time they've done it on their website (and even to an extent with the Royal Rumble where the winner gets a world championship match at WrestleMania—that has always been the prize since 1993 with the exception of 2016, as explained before). You say we need better confirmation, yet that source right there refers to all three titles being world championships, twice (that being the WWE, Universal, and NXT titles). What more confirmation do you need? You asked for it, you got it, but you still say "we need more". At this point, you're just moving the goal posts.
Also, Czello, you say the "NXT thing was more of a swerve." Okay, then what do you call last year when Charlotte Flair, who won the women's Royal Rumble to earn a women's world championship match, chose the NXT Women's Championship? Are we just gonna brush that under the rug as a "swerve" too? (And prior to that, WWE did not include Charlotte's previous NXT title reign in her total WWE women's championship reigns, but now they do.) Also, on SmackDown, Edge named all three champions as his choices, not just that "swerve angle" with him appearing on NXT (Bianca Belair also named all three women's champions as choices in her interview with Ryan Satin). -- JDC808 ♫ 07:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Are we just gonna brush that under the rug as a "swerve" too?Yes. I remember it pretty well and it was unexpected. More than anything, though, I think it shows that the women's division is even more consistent than the men's -- and it's very inconsistent in the men's. I'm starting to think WWE are less concerned about the "world" title than we are, and instead intend the RR to be challenging for one of the brands' top titles. — Czello 08:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
And here's the beautiful bean footage to verify it So that leads to this...To McIntyre, it isn't a World title, but to Edge (and WWE as a whole) it is...since we're all about consensus here, I'd say the consensus within ThunderDome is that is IS a World title. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
JDC808 What do you think...think there's enough there that if I were to go ahead and change it, it would "hold up in court" so to speak? And BTW, I've been working with InedibleHulk at this pop stand for years...he's the king of snark (and that's a good thing...shows you can have a sense of humor around here) Vjmlhds (talk) 20:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Responding to your message that you pinged me on Vjmlhds. Having the two official WWE sources calling it a world championship should be enough (their stance on this trumps third-party sources anyways). But for whatever reason, it's still not enough for those opposing. The other opposers have yet to weigh in, but they'll probably still try to move the goal post. LM2000 is still doing that. We got an official WWE source calling it a world championship, but then he said we needed more (even though that official source was exactly what he and others asked for in their initial opposition). We then got a second official WWE source calling it a world championship, and then we have third-party reliable sources referring to it as a world championship, but yet, it's still not enough. And yes, the first 411mania sourced called it the "NXT World Championship"; although that technically is not its name, the important part here is the recognition of them acknowledging it as a world championship, which they explicitly did in their second source provided by Vjmlhds. Like I said before, it's just goal post moving at this point. It feels like those opposing will only accept it as a world championship if WWE puts out an official press release that explicitly states to the absolute t that they officially classify the NXT Championship as a world championship. -- JDC808 ♫ 03:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Chubbybunny60, I have attempted to explain this to you several times now. Adam Cole has two dates listed for his title reign because he didn't lose his title on live television. WWE presents the kayfabe date, we provide the actual date. You're edit warring to only keep one: if you think your version should be accepted, you must seek WP:CONSENSUS. — Czello (Please tag me in replies) 17:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
@Czello: Then stop going back and forth with me, and leave it at the fact he held the title for 403 days. Don’t believe me? Then go on Peacock and watch the June 1st, 2021 episode of WWE NXT, where in a confrontation with then-NXT Champion Karrion Kross, Adam Cole clearly states, he held the NXT Championship for 403 days. No one cares about whatever tape delay there appears to be. The fact of the matter is 403 days is the amount of time he held that championship. What is so hard to understand? Chubbybunny60 ( talk) 18:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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Should we list title defenses here, since it's so early in the reign? Like how Rollins defended against Michael McGillicutty? Not even sure why that guy who Seth already beat in tournament got a shot before untried guys like Big E or Bray Wyatt. Ranze ( talk) 21:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Shouldnt this article have a photo of the title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.66.76.254 ( talk) 20:27, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Should Zayn's reign really be counted? It's my understanding that a restarted match is basically treated as though it never ended, and thus it just goes down as a successful retain for Dallas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Before this page gets protected from edit warring, let's talk about the Combined reigns section and if this page needs it or not. Most of the reigns will be only one reign, but the WWE (or for this matter NXT) will make someone a two or more time champion one day. Right now we don't need it since everyone has only one reign and whoever won and lost it has been promoted to the main roster, with the exception of Sami Zayn. Zayn might become champion again if they want him to do it again.-- Keith Okamoto ( talk) 00:06, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
The combined reigns section is included because of statistics. It shows the exact number of days each person held the title. It is not exactly about multiple reigns, it is about reigns in general. There is no consensus that it takes two reigns to have the table. The table is to exist as long as there are multiple champions.-- Will C 21:24, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
As far as I recall, there was never a project discussion on the format to lists. The only discussion took place at FL, where all notable information is to be included. That includes all statistics regarding a championship. I should know, I've been dealing with championships and lists are years.-- Will C 03:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
That is taken into account because you don't have to perform an option to get the information. I could get the information that someone won the title twice without needing the table as well by doing the same function. You are arguing against yourself now for even having the table in general. I could add up all the reigns in my head and get the information the table would give in any list. Though the table still reflects it without me needing to do any action. As a reader I could get that information with a little work. We could list just who won the belt and get the rest of the info by looking at bios. Articles are meant to be informative and well done. This gives all information in an orderly fashion.-- Will C 09:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
They just don't know.-- Will C 13:23, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
See, here you go again presenting points that in actuality don't work. For instance, you said; The table will be in the article anyway'. That's crystal balling because this is a developmental promotion with a high turnover of talent, not a core promotion with long term "residents" (for want of a better word). So the additional point of the make up of the table resembles snowballing. And you said The table is about combined reigns. There are no two reigns but it displays important information, ignoring the fact that the important information you speak of already exists in the main table with the list of champions. So it's duplicating existing information. One click on the arrow after days held is all that's needed. It's simple and renders the combined reigns table redundant until we get a two time champion. All information is there without the combined reigns table so there is nothing to add. To say otherwise is, as HHH pedigree said, absurd. Mega Z090 ( talk) 23:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Problem is you've been arguing that it is needed when 2 reigns happen. I am arguing it is either needed now or not until 3 or 4 people have 2 reigns.-- Will C 08:29, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
cough cough.-- Will C 23:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
You really should look at the undue weight issue here. I'm not trying to give a minority view of the NXT Title undue weight over the majority view. The content of the article is largely unaffected with the table inclusion regarding neutrality. Arguing over that policy is pointless because it doesn't apply to this subject. Please explain how including the table is giving undue weight to any other view? What large view is against discussing all statistics of an article? Did you even look at that policy before citing it? Notability and including all information shouldn't be ignored. This discussion is at the main page over there and it appears that not everyone is in agreement with this issue. Most just don't care it appears.-- Will C 06:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Should we keep the combined reigns table, or should it be deleted? Mega Z090 ( talk) 07:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
So why are the NXT championships not titled "WWE NXT Championship", "WWE NXT Women's Championship", and "WWE NXT Tag Team Championship"? The NXT article here is WWE NXT, not NXT. They are owned by WWE, NXT is just the "brand". WWE is included on all of the articles of all of their current main show titles, even the Raw and SmackDown exclusive ones are WWE Raw ( Women's/ Tag Team) Championship and WWE SmackDown ( Women's/ Tag Team) Championship. -- JDC808 ♫ 21:33, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Per WP:PW/SG, when a championship has 10+ reigns we can split into a list of champions article. Is it time for List of NXT Champions? LM2000 ( talk) 09:16, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
My edit was deleted. On the February 24, 2020 episode of Raw, during his sit down interview, Drew McIntyre himself said that he had never been a world champion in WWE. Please remove all references to this belt being a world title.
Please don't add the claim that this belt is a "world" championship without a source that isn't WWE itself. This doesn't pass the Wikipedia sourcing guidelines, sources need to be independent of the subject in this case. Egaoblai ( talk) 15:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
No evidence of WWE referring to the NXT title as a world championship. The archived WWE.com reference failed to support the preceding "world title" claim. Amoeni ( talk) 16:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I see there was a discussion about if this should be called a World title and it appeared to be agreed that it should not, however the opening line of the article stated the title as such, so I have since edited it. 68.196.72.173 ( talk) 13:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Updated to remove "world" championship 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
My edit of removing "world" championship continues to be changed back. Not sure why as it was agreed to be removed. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
WWE is notorious for being inconsistent with stuff like this and other continuity. On February 24th 2020 Drew McIntyre flat out said that he has never been a world champion. Just because Edge showed up on NXT one night for a ratings pop and later gave his opinion to the Miz that it is world title shouldn't be the be all end all, its a world title again. Until WWE flat out acknowledges it themselves on TV or in writing, I think McIntyre's statement on his road to Mania 37 holds the most ground. Even Finn Balor, in his Bleacher Report interview in February 2021, said he "THINKS" all the titles "SHOULD" be held at the same level. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 17:11, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
And next year when Big E. wins his "first world championship" as per WWE, we'll change it back. Company is a joke. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 00:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the NXT Championship be described as a world championship? LM2000 ( talk) 23:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
So, 10 days later, should we removed the World title part? -- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 09:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I thought this site worked on facts only and not spoilers? Despite the picture going around that shows Keith Lee holding the NXT Title after the Great American Bash, there is no confirmation from WWE that he is Champion. It is possible that they filmed two endings. Please keep Adam Cole as the current champion until WWE show the next episode of NXT on July 8th. Any attempts to put Lee back as Champion before then will be changed back to Cole.
Now that some new info has been revealed, let's try this again.
NXT Title a World Title? Vjmlhds (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm going to post the paragraph from the link Vjmlhds posted above:
Returning from injury, Edge started this year’s Royal Rumble Match at No. 1 and outlasted 29 other Superstars to earn the right to to challenge the World Champion of his choosing at The Showcase of the Immortals. In the wake of his Herculean effort, The Rated-R Superstar traveled first to Raw to inform WWE Champion Drew McIntyre that whomever he decided to face, he would be walking out of The Show of Shows with the World Title. He then ventured to NXT and put both NXT Champion Finn Bálor and Pete Dunne on notice as well.
I think it's totally fair if you read this and conclude WWE just declared this a world title with this post. I think it's also fair to say that it says "Edge went to Raw and said he was going to fight a world champion. Then he went to NXT and confronted two of their top stars." The problem with this dispute, and the reason it keeps popping up year after year, is because WWE has contradicted themselves on whether this counts as a world title. I don't even know if WWE know if they count it as a world title at this point. But after a big part of last year's biggest angle included a storyline where former NXT Champion Drew chased after a world title because he never won one, while the women's Royal Rumble winner did decide to face the NXT Women's Champion, I think we just need better confirmation before we change things. LM2000 ( talk) 20:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict): LM2000, regardless if WWE contradict themselves, this is the most recent proof of WWE calling it a world championship, and the second time they've done it on their website (and even to an extent with the Royal Rumble where the winner gets a world championship match at WrestleMania—that has always been the prize since 1993 with the exception of 2016, as explained before). You say we need better confirmation, yet that source right there refers to all three titles being world championships, twice (that being the WWE, Universal, and NXT titles). What more confirmation do you need? You asked for it, you got it, but you still say "we need more". At this point, you're just moving the goal posts.
Also, Czello, you say the "NXT thing was more of a swerve." Okay, then what do you call last year when Charlotte Flair, who won the women's Royal Rumble to earn a women's world championship match, chose the NXT Women's Championship? Are we just gonna brush that under the rug as a "swerve" too? (And prior to that, WWE did not include Charlotte's previous NXT title reign in her total WWE women's championship reigns, but now they do.) Also, on SmackDown, Edge named all three champions as his choices, not just that "swerve angle" with him appearing on NXT (Bianca Belair also named all three women's champions as choices in her interview with Ryan Satin). -- JDC808 ♫ 07:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Are we just gonna brush that under the rug as a "swerve" too?Yes. I remember it pretty well and it was unexpected. More than anything, though, I think it shows that the women's division is even more consistent than the men's -- and it's very inconsistent in the men's. I'm starting to think WWE are less concerned about the "world" title than we are, and instead intend the RR to be challenging for one of the brands' top titles. — Czello 08:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
And here's the beautiful bean footage to verify it So that leads to this...To McIntyre, it isn't a World title, but to Edge (and WWE as a whole) it is...since we're all about consensus here, I'd say the consensus within ThunderDome is that is IS a World title. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
JDC808 What do you think...think there's enough there that if I were to go ahead and change it, it would "hold up in court" so to speak? And BTW, I've been working with InedibleHulk at this pop stand for years...he's the king of snark (and that's a good thing...shows you can have a sense of humor around here) Vjmlhds (talk) 20:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Responding to your message that you pinged me on Vjmlhds. Having the two official WWE sources calling it a world championship should be enough (their stance on this trumps third-party sources anyways). But for whatever reason, it's still not enough for those opposing. The other opposers have yet to weigh in, but they'll probably still try to move the goal post. LM2000 is still doing that. We got an official WWE source calling it a world championship, but then he said we needed more (even though that official source was exactly what he and others asked for in their initial opposition). We then got a second official WWE source calling it a world championship, and then we have third-party reliable sources referring to it as a world championship, but yet, it's still not enough. And yes, the first 411mania sourced called it the "NXT World Championship"; although that technically is not its name, the important part here is the recognition of them acknowledging it as a world championship, which they explicitly did in their second source provided by Vjmlhds. Like I said before, it's just goal post moving at this point. It feels like those opposing will only accept it as a world championship if WWE puts out an official press release that explicitly states to the absolute t that they officially classify the NXT Championship as a world championship. -- JDC808 ♫ 03:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Chubbybunny60, I have attempted to explain this to you several times now. Adam Cole has two dates listed for his title reign because he didn't lose his title on live television. WWE presents the kayfabe date, we provide the actual date. You're edit warring to only keep one: if you think your version should be accepted, you must seek WP:CONSENSUS. — Czello (Please tag me in replies) 17:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
@Czello: Then stop going back and forth with me, and leave it at the fact he held the title for 403 days. Don’t believe me? Then go on Peacock and watch the June 1st, 2021 episode of WWE NXT, where in a confrontation with then-NXT Champion Karrion Kross, Adam Cole clearly states, he held the NXT Championship for 403 days. No one cares about whatever tape delay there appears to be. The fact of the matter is 403 days is the amount of time he held that championship. What is so hard to understand? Chubbybunny60 ( talk) 18:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)