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Palantir has not worked on the app discussed on this page; the current text is incorrect.
The current citation is not clear on the subject, saying only: "Meanwhile, questions remain about the involvement of the shadowy Cambridge Analytica-linked analytics firm Palantir in the NHSX app." [1]
Meanwhile the body responsible for the development of the app has explicitly denied Palantir's involvement: "#Palantir are not involved in building the app." [2]
This has been confirmed by the media. Sky News Technology Correspondent Rowland Manthorpe: "Why do I keep on seeing that Palantir and Faculty are involved in the NHS contact tracing app? They are not, but it seems to have got around, and now it's popping up in all sorts of random places" [3]
English Wiki Account ( talk) 10:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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Re-requesting edit based on above clarifications (please see my last comment which has been left unaddressed). Please remove the mention of Palantir from this article as Palantir has not worked on the app.
The page still says that Palantir has worked on the app despite no authoritative source clearly stating that this is the case. The citation in the article is certainly insufficient to justify the inclusion of the sentence. Again, Palantir has not worked on the app, but on the Covid 19 Data Store [5], which is an entirely separate project, and is not an app.
It is not possible to demonstrate that Palantir has not worked on the app by linking to authoritative sources, just as it's not possible to demonstrate that Tesco did not work on the app: there are no articles with lists of companies that didn't work on the app (of which there are a near infinite number), there are only lists of companies that did (of which Palantir is not one). The next best thing, which is the official body denying the involvement, [1] as well as senior media figures in the UK, [2] will have to suffice.
Again, Palantir did not work on the app. At the very least, if you're going to leave the erroneous sentence up, please find an authoritative article that explicitly states 'the app was developed by Palantir'. The current citation is inadequate as well as being incorrect (as described in my previous comments). English Wiki Account ( talk) 10:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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I apologise if this is the wrong use of the talk page, I'm a new user. The source for the "Implementation" sub heading directs to a 404. It is supposed to direct to the architecture guidebook on the github. I think this is the correct link: https://github.com/nhsx/covid19-app-system-public/blob/master/doc/architecture/guidebook.md Cetchup cat ( talk) 22:51, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
"An update to the app in April 2021, timed to coincide with easing of restrictions on hospitality businesses, was blocked by Apple and Google. It was intended that users who tested positive would be asked to share their history of visited venues, to assist in warning others, but this would have contravened assurances by Apple and Google that location data from devices would not be shared."
Has this been resolved?
The
WP:IMGCONTENT section of Wiki's "Image use policy" is clear that the "purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article.
"
Are we in agreement that this addition of a photo of an empty fridge in a Morrisons supermarket in Wetherby increases readers' understanding by directly depicting the sharp increase in the number of people being notified by the NHS app due to the relaxing of social distancing rules and the increase in close contacts?
My opinion is that it doesn't so it should be removed per WP:BRD (I tried to) - there is nothing about supermarket shelves in this article section. In addition, the reference supplied with the image caption does not support the caption's assertion that "The 'pingdemic' caused much of the workforce into self-isolation causing among other things stock shortages in supermarkets". -- DeFacto ( talk). 06:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
isolation recommendations from the NHS COVID-19 app (in contrast to those from the Test and Trace Service) are not currently legally enforceable.https://www.yorksandhumberdeanery.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/nhs_phone_app_template_letter_v4.pdf . If the supermarket staff are isolating because of the app (rather than Test and Trace), they are doing that voluntarily. Widefox; talk 14:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Palantir has not worked on the app discussed on this page; the current text is incorrect.
The current citation is not clear on the subject, saying only: "Meanwhile, questions remain about the involvement of the shadowy Cambridge Analytica-linked analytics firm Palantir in the NHSX app." [1]
Meanwhile the body responsible for the development of the app has explicitly denied Palantir's involvement: "#Palantir are not involved in building the app." [2]
This has been confirmed by the media. Sky News Technology Correspondent Rowland Manthorpe: "Why do I keep on seeing that Palantir and Faculty are involved in the NHS contact tracing app? They are not, but it seems to have got around, and now it's popping up in all sorts of random places" [3]
English Wiki Account ( talk) 10:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Re-requesting edit based on above clarifications (please see my last comment which has been left unaddressed). Please remove the mention of Palantir from this article as Palantir has not worked on the app.
The page still says that Palantir has worked on the app despite no authoritative source clearly stating that this is the case. The citation in the article is certainly insufficient to justify the inclusion of the sentence. Again, Palantir has not worked on the app, but on the Covid 19 Data Store [5], which is an entirely separate project, and is not an app.
It is not possible to demonstrate that Palantir has not worked on the app by linking to authoritative sources, just as it's not possible to demonstrate that Tesco did not work on the app: there are no articles with lists of companies that didn't work on the app (of which there are a near infinite number), there are only lists of companies that did (of which Palantir is not one). The next best thing, which is the official body denying the involvement, [1] as well as senior media figures in the UK, [2] will have to suffice.
Again, Palantir did not work on the app. At the very least, if you're going to leave the erroneous sentence up, please find an authoritative article that explicitly states 'the app was developed by Palantir'. The current citation is inadequate as well as being incorrect (as described in my previous comments). English Wiki Account ( talk) 10:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
References
I apologise if this is the wrong use of the talk page, I'm a new user. The source for the "Implementation" sub heading directs to a 404. It is supposed to direct to the architecture guidebook on the github. I think this is the correct link: https://github.com/nhsx/covid19-app-system-public/blob/master/doc/architecture/guidebook.md Cetchup cat ( talk) 22:51, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
"An update to the app in April 2021, timed to coincide with easing of restrictions on hospitality businesses, was blocked by Apple and Google. It was intended that users who tested positive would be asked to share their history of visited venues, to assist in warning others, but this would have contravened assurances by Apple and Google that location data from devices would not be shared."
Has this been resolved?
The
WP:IMGCONTENT section of Wiki's "Image use policy" is clear that the "purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article.
"
Are we in agreement that this addition of a photo of an empty fridge in a Morrisons supermarket in Wetherby increases readers' understanding by directly depicting the sharp increase in the number of people being notified by the NHS app due to the relaxing of social distancing rules and the increase in close contacts?
My opinion is that it doesn't so it should be removed per WP:BRD (I tried to) - there is nothing about supermarket shelves in this article section. In addition, the reference supplied with the image caption does not support the caption's assertion that "The 'pingdemic' caused much of the workforce into self-isolation causing among other things stock shortages in supermarkets". -- DeFacto ( talk). 06:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
isolation recommendations from the NHS COVID-19 app (in contrast to those from the Test and Trace Service) are not currently legally enforceable.https://www.yorksandhumberdeanery.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/nhs_phone_app_template_letter_v4.pdf . If the supermarket staff are isolating because of the app (rather than Test and Trace), they are doing that voluntarily. Widefox; talk 14:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)