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Sorry for removing the bit about the sentence order in English vs. Turkish, but there was no citation -- and the insinuation that the translator might not actually even be aware of the difference is just too outrageous (and insulting) to be credible - especially given that the English translation won the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award.
It's a bit off topic, but IMO (and not knowing anything about Turkish) a translation must largely be judged on its own merits - it is common for a novel to take a different form when translated to a different language. Moreso when that language is quite dissimilar. If the particular translation is to be discussed in the article, I think the discussion should at least make it clear what the alleged problems was with the translation and who "some readers" are, other than the wikipedian editing the article. -- Oarih 02:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information about international awards. I provisionally removed two details:
including the IMPAC award issued for the English translation
because the IMPAC prize citation does not mention the English translation (but if some other related document does mention it, please cite it)
(a fourth of the prize money was awarded to the translator)
because, unless this information is published somewhere, it counts as "original research", and Wikipedia has to be very careful about that, especially with living persons. If a printed or Web reference can be cited for this information, again, please cite it! I have at the same time added to the article some details from John Updike's favourable review, as cited above. Andrew Dalby 12:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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I've placed a {{ copyedit}} tag on this article because parts of it are almost indecipherable, and others are just poorly worded. The passage that made me give up my attempt to copyedit the article was the following:
Both sentences are ungrammatical and, well, confusing to say the least. The next paragraph is more grammatical, but less encyclopedic in tone. Someone familiar with this novel please copyedit this article. - dcljr ( talk) 07:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
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I've rated this Top as the winner of the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, the French Prix du meilleur livre étranger, and Italian Premio Grinzane Cavour awards.-- Ibis3 21:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Sorry for removing the bit about the sentence order in English vs. Turkish, but there was no citation -- and the insinuation that the translator might not actually even be aware of the difference is just too outrageous (and insulting) to be credible - especially given that the English translation won the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award.
It's a bit off topic, but IMO (and not knowing anything about Turkish) a translation must largely be judged on its own merits - it is common for a novel to take a different form when translated to a different language. Moreso when that language is quite dissimilar. If the particular translation is to be discussed in the article, I think the discussion should at least make it clear what the alleged problems was with the translation and who "some readers" are, other than the wikipedian editing the article. -- Oarih 02:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information about international awards. I provisionally removed two details:
including the IMPAC award issued for the English translation
because the IMPAC prize citation does not mention the English translation (but if some other related document does mention it, please cite it)
(a fourth of the prize money was awarded to the translator)
because, unless this information is published somewhere, it counts as "original research", and Wikipedia has to be very careful about that, especially with living persons. If a printed or Web reference can be cited for this information, again, please cite it! I have at the same time added to the article some details from John Updike's favourable review, as cited above. Andrew Dalby 12:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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I've placed a {{ copyedit}} tag on this article because parts of it are almost indecipherable, and others are just poorly worded. The passage that made me give up my attempt to copyedit the article was the following:
Both sentences are ungrammatical and, well, confusing to say the least. The next paragraph is more grammatical, but less encyclopedic in tone. Someone familiar with this novel please copyedit this article. - dcljr ( talk) 07:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:My Name Is Red/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
I've rated this Top as the winner of the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, the French Prix du meilleur livre étranger, and Italian Premio Grinzane Cavour awards.-- Ibis3 21:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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