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There is no way this is just "Rock" it is undoubtedly Thrash Metal. I don't see how it can be construed as rock. It has all of Thrash's Characteristics: Speed and Harsh Vocals. It is in dire need of a change. -- Kgardner1123 ( talk) 04:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgardner1123 ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
It is quite clearly heavier than Rock. I dont see how you need a source to tell you that this is thrash metal. But i think for the well being of this page, you should put something a little more reasonable than rock. It just doesnt make sense. The lyrics don't even resemble rock. Its Thrash man. I know i don't need a website to tell me that it is.
-- Kgardner1123 ( talk) 04:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
If you need citation to change the genre of the music to a form of Metal, don't you also need citation to have the genre as rock? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gedmundo ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry that I didnt complain, but it is Trash. I love this song simply because it brings back old good Metallica. My Favorite Song!!! Sorry
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Now, seeing as someone put "citation needed" next to the sentence stating My Apocalypse is the "official" forty-first single following The Day That Never Comes, is it actually a single? From what I understand, Metallica.com is releasing a few more songs each Monday before the album is out. Yet, we wouldn't and shouldn't assume they're all being released as singles. I'm only asking, but I really don't think My Apocalypse is a single. Isn't it rather odd to release two singles within a week of each other? I believe they just offered it up as an online sample. Does being able to buy it on iTunes automatically make it an official single? In any case, I miss the old days of when you heard it on the radio, you knew it was a single. Wilhelm Screamer ( talk) 05:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
it´s not a single until it is physically released on cd or vinyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.167.226 ( talk) 11:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
When You Download it from Itunes it Says "My Apocalypse - Single" ( 202.37.168.14 ( talk) 02:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC))
… ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Ok, whether the genre on 'My Apocalypse' be changed or not, it is widely known that Metallica=thrash metal, and this has always been their genre. Also, 'My Apocalypse' is on the same album as 'The Day That Never Comes', and for reasons unknown, that song IS corrctly labelled Thrash Metal. This fact is all the stranger if you consider that "The Day That Never Comes' is actually the downbeat song of the album. If it had to be mislabeled, then it would have been the other way around, surely. But since the downbeat song of the album is concidered thrash metal, isn't it safe to state then that 'My Apocalypse' should be concidered so as well? And also, Metallica always has a 'theme' going on on their albums, so to speak, and I think it's safe to state that if 1 song on their new album is thrash, the rest is as well. Thank you. Nyghtslave ( talk) 05:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Jonasbrothersareterrible 17:07, 06 September 2008
May I refer to one of wiki's own articles, referring to Metallica as one of the "Big Four" in Thrash Metal, link here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_metal Also on wiki's own Metallica site it refers to Thrash Metal, Heavy Metal, Speed metal and Hard Rock, but never rock. Link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica Also an external source labels the album as being Thrash Metal. I refer to RockBox.com, link to complete article and genre labelling here: REMOVED: THIS WAS A LINK TO A DOWNLOAD. NEVER POST DOWNLOAD LINKS, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
I hope this constitutes the change of genre to at least Metal, if not Thrash. Thank you. Nyghtslave ( talk) 07:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Or we could be less anal about it and just use common sense. Waste of time edit war. Libs ( talk) 17:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Dudes it is thrash metal can't you fucking hear it?!
HAY GUISE LETS ARGUE GENRES MOAR PLS.
Currently, changing the genre of this article constitutes original research (please see the article on it), because it doesn't cite a reliable source (please read that article as well), so I am proposing, for all the "die-hards" a consensus. I will not allow the article to violate WP:OR, by any means. That doesn't mean I constitute WP:OWN, it just means I follow the rules. So here's the middle ground: Since all the policies run against applying "Thrash metal" without a citation, let's leave it blank until a valid citation appears. I have posted the hidden message somebody tore down, and I have typed that taking it down constitutes vandalism, and the user who does it will be warned. So I suggest keeping it blank, and if anybody has any disputes, place them here. But remember, we do not use our own judgment on Wikipedia, by any means, not even for genres. -- The Guy complain edits 22:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
The whole basis of Wikipedia is for facts to be cited by reliable, external sources, be it book, website, or any publication. At this point in time, no reliable, external sources can be cited to say that this is thrash metal. I could say this is folk music, and it has the same validity as the claim at the bottom of the above section. So, for the time being, until proper sources can be found stating this is thrash metal or any other genre(s). Calor ( talk) 23:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Your point???? How many "yous" are there in there??? Did you forget which account you were logged in as before you posted that???? I am confused as to who is talking here? Almost smells like two user accounts coming from the same keyboard. Which would be troubling since one editor already caught for 3RR had his edit mimiced by the other... after the 3RR warning was issued. Libs 23:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I can AGF that. Besides... RCUs, SSPs and 3RRs are all a pain in the ass to compose.(in case anyone was sweating there :-D ) Just got caught in the keyboard parrot posts.
that's the second time you've linked to that. Is this article up for AfD? If someone changes it from thrash metal to heavy metal I won't be whining anywhere about it. As long as they get the link correct. I can't count how many times I've corrected "heavy metal" to "heavy metal music" to avoid the stupid re-direct. It's a very very very very very fast heavy metal song. Maybe it's speed metal??? Perhaps that option is more valid than thrash metal. They are slightly different. One might make no sense over the other 2. Libs 23:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Your debate foundation still baffles me and I can't see your point? So you would like to add bluegrass to the infobox??? Go ahead and see how long it takes to get a V warning for it. If you are simply offering it as an option for consensus debate here on this page then that is fine. Anyone who wants to support Dude527's opinion that Bluegrass is the genre of this song... lets hear it. Libs 01:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
There you go. All I asked for was a reference, you just provided one. Debate closed. -- The Guy complain edits 02:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
This is not directly relevant to the article as such, but just take it easy, ok?
I _think_ this is trash-metal, most journalists will probably agree when they hear it, and then they'll write about it providing plenty of sources. And then the article will probably be deleted because it's not notable enough.
No need to get over-excited about a small detail on a brand new soon-to-be-deleted stub...
I mean, maybe we could all just relax and listen to this cool new song, no? 91.177.138.16 ( talk) 09:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for interupting your guys' catfight, but can someone explain y this article is up for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachslash ( talk • contribs) 04:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I've seen that a lot of other pages for singles have a section about lyrical themes, so why not this one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LNERfan ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
On the Album Doomsday Machine (2005) by Arch Enemy, the 4th track is My Apocalypse. There's also a video with the same title. Shouldn't we add a disambiguation to this page? Linking maybe to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Machine_(album)
My Apocalypse is an iconic song of this band, and pretty important in the Metal scene. If you ask anyone that listens to Heavy Metal of any kind about My Apocalypse, he'll think about Arch Enemy's song, not Metallica's (Not to mention it predates Metallica's song by over 3 years)
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There is no way this is just "Rock" it is undoubtedly Thrash Metal. I don't see how it can be construed as rock. It has all of Thrash's Characteristics: Speed and Harsh Vocals. It is in dire need of a change. -- Kgardner1123 ( talk) 04:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgardner1123 ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
It is quite clearly heavier than Rock. I dont see how you need a source to tell you that this is thrash metal. But i think for the well being of this page, you should put something a little more reasonable than rock. It just doesnt make sense. The lyrics don't even resemble rock. Its Thrash man. I know i don't need a website to tell me that it is.
-- Kgardner1123 ( talk) 04:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
If you need citation to change the genre of the music to a form of Metal, don't you also need citation to have the genre as rock? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gedmundo ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry that I didnt complain, but it is Trash. I love this song simply because it brings back old good Metallica. My Favorite Song!!! Sorry
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Now, seeing as someone put "citation needed" next to the sentence stating My Apocalypse is the "official" forty-first single following The Day That Never Comes, is it actually a single? From what I understand, Metallica.com is releasing a few more songs each Monday before the album is out. Yet, we wouldn't and shouldn't assume they're all being released as singles. I'm only asking, but I really don't think My Apocalypse is a single. Isn't it rather odd to release two singles within a week of each other? I believe they just offered it up as an online sample. Does being able to buy it on iTunes automatically make it an official single? In any case, I miss the old days of when you heard it on the radio, you knew it was a single. Wilhelm Screamer ( talk) 05:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
it´s not a single until it is physically released on cd or vinyl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.167.226 ( talk) 11:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
When You Download it from Itunes it Says "My Apocalypse - Single" ( 202.37.168.14 ( talk) 02:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC))
… ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Ok, whether the genre on 'My Apocalypse' be changed or not, it is widely known that Metallica=thrash metal, and this has always been their genre. Also, 'My Apocalypse' is on the same album as 'The Day That Never Comes', and for reasons unknown, that song IS corrctly labelled Thrash Metal. This fact is all the stranger if you consider that "The Day That Never Comes' is actually the downbeat song of the album. If it had to be mislabeled, then it would have been the other way around, surely. But since the downbeat song of the album is concidered thrash metal, isn't it safe to state then that 'My Apocalypse' should be concidered so as well? And also, Metallica always has a 'theme' going on on their albums, so to speak, and I think it's safe to state that if 1 song on their new album is thrash, the rest is as well. Thank you. Nyghtslave ( talk) 05:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Jonasbrothersareterrible 17:07, 06 September 2008
May I refer to one of wiki's own articles, referring to Metallica as one of the "Big Four" in Thrash Metal, link here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_metal Also on wiki's own Metallica site it refers to Thrash Metal, Heavy Metal, Speed metal and Hard Rock, but never rock. Link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica Also an external source labels the album as being Thrash Metal. I refer to RockBox.com, link to complete article and genre labelling here: REMOVED: THIS WAS A LINK TO A DOWNLOAD. NEVER POST DOWNLOAD LINKS, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
I hope this constitutes the change of genre to at least Metal, if not Thrash. Thank you. Nyghtslave ( talk) 07:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Or we could be less anal about it and just use common sense. Waste of time edit war. Libs ( talk) 17:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Dudes it is thrash metal can't you fucking hear it?!
HAY GUISE LETS ARGUE GENRES MOAR PLS.
Currently, changing the genre of this article constitutes original research (please see the article on it), because it doesn't cite a reliable source (please read that article as well), so I am proposing, for all the "die-hards" a consensus. I will not allow the article to violate WP:OR, by any means. That doesn't mean I constitute WP:OWN, it just means I follow the rules. So here's the middle ground: Since all the policies run against applying "Thrash metal" without a citation, let's leave it blank until a valid citation appears. I have posted the hidden message somebody tore down, and I have typed that taking it down constitutes vandalism, and the user who does it will be warned. So I suggest keeping it blank, and if anybody has any disputes, place them here. But remember, we do not use our own judgment on Wikipedia, by any means, not even for genres. -- The Guy complain edits 22:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
The whole basis of Wikipedia is for facts to be cited by reliable, external sources, be it book, website, or any publication. At this point in time, no reliable, external sources can be cited to say that this is thrash metal. I could say this is folk music, and it has the same validity as the claim at the bottom of the above section. So, for the time being, until proper sources can be found stating this is thrash metal or any other genre(s). Calor ( talk) 23:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Your point???? How many "yous" are there in there??? Did you forget which account you were logged in as before you posted that???? I am confused as to who is talking here? Almost smells like two user accounts coming from the same keyboard. Which would be troubling since one editor already caught for 3RR had his edit mimiced by the other... after the 3RR warning was issued. Libs 23:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I can AGF that. Besides... RCUs, SSPs and 3RRs are all a pain in the ass to compose.(in case anyone was sweating there :-D ) Just got caught in the keyboard parrot posts.
that's the second time you've linked to that. Is this article up for AfD? If someone changes it from thrash metal to heavy metal I won't be whining anywhere about it. As long as they get the link correct. I can't count how many times I've corrected "heavy metal" to "heavy metal music" to avoid the stupid re-direct. It's a very very very very very fast heavy metal song. Maybe it's speed metal??? Perhaps that option is more valid than thrash metal. They are slightly different. One might make no sense over the other 2. Libs 23:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Your debate foundation still baffles me and I can't see your point? So you would like to add bluegrass to the infobox??? Go ahead and see how long it takes to get a V warning for it. If you are simply offering it as an option for consensus debate here on this page then that is fine. Anyone who wants to support Dude527's opinion that Bluegrass is the genre of this song... lets hear it. Libs 01:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
There you go. All I asked for was a reference, you just provided one. Debate closed. -- The Guy complain edits 02:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
This is not directly relevant to the article as such, but just take it easy, ok?
I _think_ this is trash-metal, most journalists will probably agree when they hear it, and then they'll write about it providing plenty of sources. And then the article will probably be deleted because it's not notable enough.
No need to get over-excited about a small detail on a brand new soon-to-be-deleted stub...
I mean, maybe we could all just relax and listen to this cool new song, no? 91.177.138.16 ( talk) 09:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for interupting your guys' catfight, but can someone explain y this article is up for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachslash ( talk • contribs) 04:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I've seen that a lot of other pages for singles have a section about lyrical themes, so why not this one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LNERfan ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
On the Album Doomsday Machine (2005) by Arch Enemy, the 4th track is My Apocalypse. There's also a video with the same title. Shouldn't we add a disambiguation to this page? Linking maybe to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Machine_(album)
My Apocalypse is an iconic song of this band, and pretty important in the Metal scene. If you ask anyone that listens to Heavy Metal of any kind about My Apocalypse, he'll think about Arch Enemy's song, not Metallica's (Not to mention it predates Metallica's song by over 3 years)
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