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[musˈtäfä ceˈmäl ätäˈtyɾc] ---> [musˈtafa keˈmal ataˈtyɾc]
Nevermind past request, i get it, K is written as C, but it might as well be written as K
ɑ is the right letter for a in Mustafa Kemal, there is no ä in turkish ipa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Turkish,_Azerbaijani_and_Turkmen and K is better than C, turkish learners may be confused, because C is pronounced DJ
Atatürk was initiated in the Scottish Rite regular Masonic Lodge Macedonia Risorta et Veritas No. 80 of Salonicco (Robert A. Minder: Freimaurer Politiker Lexikon, Edition zum rauhen Stein, ISBN 3-7065-1909-7, p. 229–231...Atatürk, Kemal. In: Eugen Lennhoff, Oskar Posner: Internationales Freimaurerlexikon. 2006, ISBN 3-7766-2161-3, p. 92.) The historician Andrew Mango considers his affiliation to the Freemasonry to be highly verisimilar (Andrew Mango: Atatürk, John Murray, 1999, ISBN 0-7195-5612-0, p. 93.).
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For Short Description: Atatürk is the greatest leader/ founder/founding father of modern Türkiye. (In original, it says that He is just a former president- that’s not the exact truth, he is not just a former president- HE IS THE FATHER OF THE TURKS) I kindly request from the editors to correct the short description. Thank you! 71.250.203.175 ( talk) 20:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is founder of Turkish republic. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin kurucusudur. 176.88.139.198 ( talk) 08:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
"the founding father of the Republic of Turkey". Liu1126 ( talk) 10:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
For Google SUMMARY Section: Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is founder of Turkish Republic. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin kurucusudur. Hakan BB Unal ( talk) 09:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
1. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was the founder of Republic of Turkey and the first president of Republic of Turkey. Please make attention! Profdrhalukmergen ( talk) 09:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Consider rephrasing also: "In 1920, before the Turkish Parliament, Atatürk called the (Ottoman) genocides a "shameful act" and didn't publicly deny them at that time.[80]" - to: "In 1920, before the Turkish Parliament, Atatürk didn't publicly deny the Ottoman genocides, which he further condemned, "a shameful act.[80]"
There is a dispute regarding Armenian genocide which is not concluded since Armenia did not agree to open all existing documents to a group of international historians. But Greek & Assyrian! Even a dispute does not exist. Selim Bağatur ( talk) 10:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Founder of the Republic of Turkey 88.232.168.170 ( talk) 16:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
the article says "he defeated the forces sent by the Allies".
Wouldn't it be better to rewrite this as "he defeated the Greek Army invasion force supported by the Allies". I don't think there is any disagreement on the fact that Ataturk defeated "Greek Army" sent by Allies to invade western Turkey? ACosarTR ( talk) 17:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I do not know how to untangle the three most recent changes. Two posts by a newer account with similar edits on related articles pretty clearly constitute vandalism. One deleted sourced content [1] and the second replaced sourced content racist material [2]. An editor rightly reverted part of the second change [3] but not all of it. Is there an easy way to restore the old content other than manually updating the page? I avoid reverting content whenever possible, so I'm not good at it.
Also, do we need to strengthen the page protection again? Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 11:33, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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[musˈtäfä ceˈmäl ätäˈtyɾc] ---> [musˈtafa keˈmal ataˈtyɾc]
Nevermind past request, i get it, K is written as C, but it might as well be written as K
ɑ is the right letter for a in Mustafa Kemal, there is no ä in turkish ipa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Turkish,_Azerbaijani_and_Turkmen and K is better than C, turkish learners may be confused, because C is pronounced DJ
Atatürk was initiated in the Scottish Rite regular Masonic Lodge Macedonia Risorta et Veritas No. 80 of Salonicco (Robert A. Minder: Freimaurer Politiker Lexikon, Edition zum rauhen Stein, ISBN 3-7065-1909-7, p. 229–231...Atatürk, Kemal. In: Eugen Lennhoff, Oskar Posner: Internationales Freimaurerlexikon. 2006, ISBN 3-7766-2161-3, p. 92.) The historician Andrew Mango considers his affiliation to the Freemasonry to be highly verisimilar (Andrew Mango: Atatürk, John Murray, 1999, ISBN 0-7195-5612-0, p. 93.).
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For Short Description: Atatürk is the greatest leader/ founder/founding father of modern Türkiye. (In original, it says that He is just a former president- that’s not the exact truth, he is not just a former president- HE IS THE FATHER OF THE TURKS) I kindly request from the editors to correct the short description. Thank you! 71.250.203.175 ( talk) 20:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is founder of Turkish republic. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin kurucusudur. 176.88.139.198 ( talk) 08:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
"the founding father of the Republic of Turkey". Liu1126 ( talk) 10:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
For Google SUMMARY Section: Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is founder of Turkish Republic. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin kurucusudur. Hakan BB Unal ( talk) 09:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
1. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was the founder of Republic of Turkey and the first president of Republic of Turkey. Please make attention! Profdrhalukmergen ( talk) 09:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Consider rephrasing also: "In 1920, before the Turkish Parliament, Atatürk called the (Ottoman) genocides a "shameful act" and didn't publicly deny them at that time.[80]" - to: "In 1920, before the Turkish Parliament, Atatürk didn't publicly deny the Ottoman genocides, which he further condemned, "a shameful act.[80]"
There is a dispute regarding Armenian genocide which is not concluded since Armenia did not agree to open all existing documents to a group of international historians. But Greek & Assyrian! Even a dispute does not exist. Selim Bağatur ( talk) 10:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Founder of the Republic of Turkey 88.232.168.170 ( talk) 16:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
the article says "he defeated the forces sent by the Allies".
Wouldn't it be better to rewrite this as "he defeated the Greek Army invasion force supported by the Allies". I don't think there is any disagreement on the fact that Ataturk defeated "Greek Army" sent by Allies to invade western Turkey? ACosarTR ( talk) 17:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I do not know how to untangle the three most recent changes. Two posts by a newer account with similar edits on related articles pretty clearly constitute vandalism. One deleted sourced content [1] and the second replaced sourced content racist material [2]. An editor rightly reverted part of the second change [3] but not all of it. Is there an easy way to restore the old content other than manually updating the page? I avoid reverting content whenever possible, so I'm not good at it.
Also, do we need to strengthen the page protection again? Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 11:33, 26 June 2024 (UTC)