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The lede calls him Yemeni, but his father was either Syrian or Iraqi and Yemen is never mentioned in the rest of the article... --
Jfruh (
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02:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)reply
This whole articles is innacurately based on al-Hakem and the other early Arabic works, which are not accurate for the conquest of Iberia. I suspect there is simply contradiction between sources as to his own ethnicity and that of his parents. Which source to trust? Probably none as regards ethnicity.
Srnec03:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)reply
I have added additional material from al-Bakri and Akhbar Majmua, sources which are Iberian. But they also contain exactly the same contradictions as ibn al-Hakam. There is very little difference between the Oriental (Egyptian-Iraqi-Persian) sources and the Iberian.
MisterCDE (
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12:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Yemeni? yes!
In the old arabic sources Yemeni does not mean that he is from Yemen. but it means that he is from an Yemeni tribe, like Tai, or Ansar, or Lukhem...
Yemeni tribes lived (and lives) in the south & the north of Arabia. —Preceding
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23:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)reply
This is correct ... some of the tribes he is said to have belonged to do trace their origins to Yemen, but at the time Musa was born and long before that, they had migrated to Syria and elsewhere.
MisterCDE (
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12:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Persian?
The famous Iranian Ayatollah Morteza Mottahari wrote in his book 'Khedamat-e Moteghabel-e Iran va Eslam' (Mutual Services between Iran and Islam) on page 677 that Musa ibn al Nusayr was a Persian. —Preceding
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07:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Al-Tabari
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Farawahar: I am confident that I read what al-Tabari said, and no Persian affiliation was attributed to him, therefore the statement is OR and would be removed, unless you find a source that assert on the said claim, then the remark should be included.
Nabataeus (
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19:25, 31 March 2018 (UTC)reply
We can not only rely on your « i’m confident », one should find the source number 3 and check it out.
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The lede calls him Yemeni, but his father was either Syrian or Iraqi and Yemen is never mentioned in the rest of the article... --
Jfruh (
talk)
02:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)reply
This whole articles is innacurately based on al-Hakem and the other early Arabic works, which are not accurate for the conquest of Iberia. I suspect there is simply contradiction between sources as to his own ethnicity and that of his parents. Which source to trust? Probably none as regards ethnicity.
Srnec03:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)reply
I have added additional material from al-Bakri and Akhbar Majmua, sources which are Iberian. But they also contain exactly the same contradictions as ibn al-Hakam. There is very little difference between the Oriental (Egyptian-Iraqi-Persian) sources and the Iberian.
MisterCDE (
talk)
12:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Yemeni? yes!
In the old arabic sources Yemeni does not mean that he is from Yemen. but it means that he is from an Yemeni tribe, like Tai, or Ansar, or Lukhem...
Yemeni tribes lived (and lives) in the south & the north of Arabia. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Maamardli (
talk •
contribs)
23:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)reply
This is correct ... some of the tribes he is said to have belonged to do trace their origins to Yemen, but at the time Musa was born and long before that, they had migrated to Syria and elsewhere.
MisterCDE (
talk)
12:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Persian?
The famous Iranian Ayatollah Morteza Mottahari wrote in his book 'Khedamat-e Moteghabel-e Iran va Eslam' (Mutual Services between Iran and Islam) on page 677 that Musa ibn al Nusayr was a Persian. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
213.93.52.152 (
talk)
07:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Al-Tabari
@
Emir of Wikipedia:@
Farawahar: I am confident that I read what al-Tabari said, and no Persian affiliation was attributed to him, therefore the statement is OR and would be removed, unless you find a source that assert on the said claim, then the remark should be included.
Nabataeus (
talk)
19:25, 31 March 2018 (UTC)reply
We can not only rely on your « i’m confident », one should find the source number 3 and check it out.