A fact from Murad Takla appeared on Wikipedia's
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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that for a Murad Takla, writing "reminds me of you" might be interpreted as "mind farts in you"?
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The article is new enough and long enough (though stub tagged), but—ironically for this topic—the English is absolutely rough! I had to suggest new hook wording, not to mention repair the page. The hook sources seem to check out, though I cannot check others because I can't read or speak Bengali.
ALT1: ... that in Bangladesh, the term Murad Takla refers to users who incorrectly write
Bengali language using the
Latin alphabet with unintentionally hilarious results?
However, I was also questioning the notability of the underlying topic, and some people I was consulting with on the page felt that it might not meet the
general notability guideline. I also found some of the sources, including the hook source, to be flimsy (or even fluffy or humorous in tone). Are there better sources available,
Mehediabedin?
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
23:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Sammi Brie Many TV News showed report on Murad Takla. This term is famous in Bangladesh. But I don't know if I can present these sources here. Most sources are written in Bengali. Only two sources in English are available which I mentioned in the article.
Mehedi Abedin12:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)reply
SL93 The non-english sources I mentioned in the article are all from reliable newspaper and online newspaper website. We have even Prothom Alo, one of the most read and most reliable newspaper in Bangladesh.
Mehedi Abedin09:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I would question whether newsbangla24.com and banglaekattor.com are
reliable (have a reputation for accuracy and fact-checking). However, the others (The Daily Star, The Business Standard, Kaler Kantho, Prothom Alo, Jugantor, Dhaka Tribune, Bangla Tribune, Daily Inqilab, and Jamuna TV) are reputable news organizations reliable for the sorts of things newspapers are usually reliable for. --
Worldbruce (
talk)
01:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
RTV is a reputable Bangladeshi media outlet. Personally, I strongly dislike relying on videos as sources because of accessibility and archiving problems, but Wikipedia permits it. If you find it necessary to cite a video, I hope you use {{cite AV media}} or otherwise indicate at what time mark within the video the supporting content is. --
Worldbruce (
talk)
16:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Sammi Brie and
Mehediabedin: I like ALT1, but explaining the whole phenomenon still does leave the hook a little wordy. This is a light internet phenomenon, so I'm thinking some punchier hooks might be available in other parts of the article. How would y'all feel about:
ALT2: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "reminds me of you" might be interpreted as "mind farts in you"?
ALT2a: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "the Earth is spinning" might be interpreted as "the Earth is horse"?
ALT3: ... that an internet term meant to refer to people who incorrectly transliterate
Bengali language has spread awareness on the need for writing in the original alphabet?
@
Sammi Brie: It is taken from a source of the article. Also the translation of the example is correct, I checked it. But if extra inspection is needed then we can ask an experienced wikipedian who knows bengali.
Mehedi Abedin20:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)reply
[Extral comment] ALT2 is more interesting. But what source for the example we have shows only the example in normal and takla language (unintended language). The translation of the example isn’t added in the source. Do you think that the mentioned issue will create problem for DYK nomination? If so then I think ALT3 is best for business (The source of ALT2a explains the example with translation by a meme although).
Mehedi Abedin20:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from Murad Takla appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 March 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that for a Murad Takla, writing "reminds me of you" might be interpreted as "mind farts in you"?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Internet, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the
Internet on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article is new enough and long enough (though stub tagged), but—ironically for this topic—the English is absolutely rough! I had to suggest new hook wording, not to mention repair the page. The hook sources seem to check out, though I cannot check others because I can't read or speak Bengali.
ALT1: ... that in Bangladesh, the term Murad Takla refers to users who incorrectly write
Bengali language using the
Latin alphabet with unintentionally hilarious results?
However, I was also questioning the notability of the underlying topic, and some people I was consulting with on the page felt that it might not meet the
general notability guideline. I also found some of the sources, including the hook source, to be flimsy (or even fluffy or humorous in tone). Are there better sources available,
Mehediabedin?
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
23:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Sammi Brie Many TV News showed report on Murad Takla. This term is famous in Bangladesh. But I don't know if I can present these sources here. Most sources are written in Bengali. Only two sources in English are available which I mentioned in the article.
Mehedi Abedin12:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)reply
SL93 The non-english sources I mentioned in the article are all from reliable newspaper and online newspaper website. We have even Prothom Alo, one of the most read and most reliable newspaper in Bangladesh.
Mehedi Abedin09:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I would question whether newsbangla24.com and banglaekattor.com are
reliable (have a reputation for accuracy and fact-checking). However, the others (The Daily Star, The Business Standard, Kaler Kantho, Prothom Alo, Jugantor, Dhaka Tribune, Bangla Tribune, Daily Inqilab, and Jamuna TV) are reputable news organizations reliable for the sorts of things newspapers are usually reliable for. --
Worldbruce (
talk)
01:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
RTV is a reputable Bangladeshi media outlet. Personally, I strongly dislike relying on videos as sources because of accessibility and archiving problems, but Wikipedia permits it. If you find it necessary to cite a video, I hope you use {{cite AV media}} or otherwise indicate at what time mark within the video the supporting content is. --
Worldbruce (
talk)
16:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Sammi Brie and
Mehediabedin: I like ALT1, but explaining the whole phenomenon still does leave the hook a little wordy. This is a light internet phenomenon, so I'm thinking some punchier hooks might be available in other parts of the article. How would y'all feel about:
ALT2: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "reminds me of you" might be interpreted as "mind farts in you"?
ALT2a: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "the Earth is spinning" might be interpreted as "the Earth is horse"?
ALT3: ... that an internet term meant to refer to people who incorrectly transliterate
Bengali language has spread awareness on the need for writing in the original alphabet?
@
Sammi Brie: It is taken from a source of the article. Also the translation of the example is correct, I checked it. But if extra inspection is needed then we can ask an experienced wikipedian who knows bengali.
Mehedi Abedin20:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)reply
[Extral comment] ALT2 is more interesting. But what source for the example we have shows only the example in normal and takla language (unintended language). The translation of the example isn’t added in the source. Do you think that the mentioned issue will create problem for DYK nomination? If so then I think ALT3 is best for business (The source of ALT2a explains the example with translation by a meme although).
Mehedi Abedin20:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)reply