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Maveric149: "(replacing full disambiguation with a disambiguatio block --- all the other "Munsters" have natural disambiguators so there is no need to parenthetically name the province)"
Shouldn't Irish provinces be labeled as such? eg, "Munster province", or "Munster, Ireland"? I'm curious about this, because we go to that sort of trouble for most cities (and where a conflict exists, for many states and counties.) This policy seems fairly arbitrary.
For somebody who arrives here looking for Munster, Indiana or Munster, Germany, being told to click off onto a separate disambiguation page looks kind of silly. But I won't change this (again) unless other people agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dachshund ( talk • contribs) 22:42, 10 September 2002 (UTC)
Matthead, why are you misrepresenting Steve's point btw? Since when are the people in the Irish diaspora the same as Irish Americans? 217.122.104.253 ( talk) 11:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
To confuse matters slightly without contributiong anything of substance: there is actually a town called Munster in Germany, and a separate town called Münster. Most everyone who links to Munster actually means Münster. AxelBoldt 02:45, 11 Sep 2002 (UTC)
I fixed most of the Münster-links pointing to Munster. To faciliate checking, I set up the redirects Province of Munster and Munster (province) and replaced some of the links with them. This way, one can easily check which of the articles on Special:Whatlinkshere/Munster may not be about the Irish province. -- User:Docu 14:21, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)
There are loads and loads of places called Munster or Münster. Is there any particular reason this article should be pointed to directly, rather than going through the disambig page? Bear in mind also that many people looking for the city in Germany Westfalen will not be capable of searching for Münster directly, nor think of searching for Muenster. Stevage 16:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Rugby is one of munster's biggest claims to fame in Europe, being one of the stronsest teams, perahps this should get it's own section, after all "Power" got it's own section. Paul5121 ( talk) 22:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I was going to do a straight edit, but thought I'd ask opinion first. For starters, Páirc Uí Rinn is completely missed off the list. I also see that Fitzgerald Stadium is listed at 48,000 when the article for it states 39,120. In fact nowhere in the article does it state it ever held 48,00. The closest it gets is there are plans to increase it to 50,000. If we're going by potential capacities, perhaps Páirc Uí Chaoimh should be 60,000 in the Munster article. In it's own article it says originally 50,000, currently 43,500, record 49,961, (however in the Munster article 45,000). It even says it's Munster's third largest behind Semple and Gaelic Grounds. In the list of GAA stadia, we have even different figures.
As someone born and living in England, but with family in Cork and as an honouree Leesider, I feel a little confused and I'm sure others would be too. Perhaps someone a bit more in the know could clean up the numbers and follow through on the other articles for consistency. I would certainly be one who appreciates it. Steve hill4 ( talk) 22:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I propose a move from
Munster to
Munster (Ireland) because this article keeps getting incorrect incoming links. See
Munster (disambiguation).
Andries (
talk)
17:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
See
Talk:Munster#Should Munster redirect to Munster (disambiguation)?
Together with the move I propose to redirect
Munster into
Munster (disambiguation).
Andries (
talk)
18:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Mistaken incoming links are a problem; but this solution will merely move the problem. A dab page, like Munster (disambiguation) should have almost no incoming links at all, so every link will have to be fixed. Andries' solution will mean that everybody who wants this, the original Munster, will have to click twice; if they are the majority, they should be accomodated - the minority who want Muenster will be no worse if the dab header is extended.
Are you getting bad links for anywhere else?
As a lesser matter, Munster, Ireland would be better if we do move; it can be used in running prose. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Is the etymology Celtic, Germanic or Basque? 37.144.53.146 ( talk) 10:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
As per the hatnote which has been in place since last month, and this IWNB discussion, there are concerns that this article includes content only very loosely related to the subject. Specifically, while there may be valid sub-topics on "Munster History" (eg Kingdom of Munster, Thomond/Desmond split, etc), "Munster Sport" (eg Rugby team, GAA provincial organisation, etc), "Munster Geography" (eg the counties that make up the province), "Munster Irish", etc, it is skirting OR and SYNTH to imply that there is a "Munster Economy" (as distinct from that of the rest of the country, the regions or anything that follows actual provincial bounds). Or indeed no reason to suggest that mining, power-generation, transport or IT companies are somehow managed or organised on a provincial basis. Frankly, they are demonstrably not arranged on this basis, so listing them as such is problematic under WP:SYNTH, WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:LISTN. (While the latter may be intended primarily for stand-alone lists, it is relevant here as list members should have "been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". In this manner, if a "list of airports in Munster" appears nowhere else, then why are we listing them together on Wikipedia - somehow implying that airports are organised or managed on a provincial basis?). Anyway, thoughts are welcome before possibly summarising or removing "stuff that just happens to be in Munster" style content or which otherwise is only very loosely related to the subject. Guliolopez ( talk) 20:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
What is the difference between the names an Mhumhain and Cúige Mumhan? Which one is the official designation? Do they perhaps refer to different things (such as the historical and current province respectively)? And why the Mhumhain/Mumhan spelling difference? /Swedish Wikipedian Genomlysning ( talk) 18:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for
the decimal coordinate for Munster is wrong... the longitude should be positive not negative... the magnitude is correct
— 198.163.53.11 ( talk) 21:24, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
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Maveric149: "(replacing full disambiguation with a disambiguatio block --- all the other "Munsters" have natural disambiguators so there is no need to parenthetically name the province)"
Shouldn't Irish provinces be labeled as such? eg, "Munster province", or "Munster, Ireland"? I'm curious about this, because we go to that sort of trouble for most cities (and where a conflict exists, for many states and counties.) This policy seems fairly arbitrary.
For somebody who arrives here looking for Munster, Indiana or Munster, Germany, being told to click off onto a separate disambiguation page looks kind of silly. But I won't change this (again) unless other people agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dachshund ( talk • contribs) 22:42, 10 September 2002 (UTC)
Matthead, why are you misrepresenting Steve's point btw? Since when are the people in the Irish diaspora the same as Irish Americans? 217.122.104.253 ( talk) 11:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
To confuse matters slightly without contributiong anything of substance: there is actually a town called Munster in Germany, and a separate town called Münster. Most everyone who links to Munster actually means Münster. AxelBoldt 02:45, 11 Sep 2002 (UTC)
I fixed most of the Münster-links pointing to Munster. To faciliate checking, I set up the redirects Province of Munster and Munster (province) and replaced some of the links with them. This way, one can easily check which of the articles on Special:Whatlinkshere/Munster may not be about the Irish province. -- User:Docu 14:21, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)
There are loads and loads of places called Munster or Münster. Is there any particular reason this article should be pointed to directly, rather than going through the disambig page? Bear in mind also that many people looking for the city in Germany Westfalen will not be capable of searching for Münster directly, nor think of searching for Muenster. Stevage 16:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Rugby is one of munster's biggest claims to fame in Europe, being one of the stronsest teams, perahps this should get it's own section, after all "Power" got it's own section. Paul5121 ( talk) 22:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I was going to do a straight edit, but thought I'd ask opinion first. For starters, Páirc Uí Rinn is completely missed off the list. I also see that Fitzgerald Stadium is listed at 48,000 when the article for it states 39,120. In fact nowhere in the article does it state it ever held 48,00. The closest it gets is there are plans to increase it to 50,000. If we're going by potential capacities, perhaps Páirc Uí Chaoimh should be 60,000 in the Munster article. In it's own article it says originally 50,000, currently 43,500, record 49,961, (however in the Munster article 45,000). It even says it's Munster's third largest behind Semple and Gaelic Grounds. In the list of GAA stadia, we have even different figures.
As someone born and living in England, but with family in Cork and as an honouree Leesider, I feel a little confused and I'm sure others would be too. Perhaps someone a bit more in the know could clean up the numbers and follow through on the other articles for consistency. I would certainly be one who appreciates it. Steve hill4 ( talk) 22:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I propose a move from
Munster to
Munster (Ireland) because this article keeps getting incorrect incoming links. See
Munster (disambiguation).
Andries (
talk)
17:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
See
Talk:Munster#Should Munster redirect to Munster (disambiguation)?
Together with the move I propose to redirect
Munster into
Munster (disambiguation).
Andries (
talk)
18:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Mistaken incoming links are a problem; but this solution will merely move the problem. A dab page, like Munster (disambiguation) should have almost no incoming links at all, so every link will have to be fixed. Andries' solution will mean that everybody who wants this, the original Munster, will have to click twice; if they are the majority, they should be accomodated - the minority who want Muenster will be no worse if the dab header is extended.
Are you getting bad links for anywhere else?
As a lesser matter, Munster, Ireland would be better if we do move; it can be used in running prose. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Is the etymology Celtic, Germanic or Basque? 37.144.53.146 ( talk) 10:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
As per the hatnote which has been in place since last month, and this IWNB discussion, there are concerns that this article includes content only very loosely related to the subject. Specifically, while there may be valid sub-topics on "Munster History" (eg Kingdom of Munster, Thomond/Desmond split, etc), "Munster Sport" (eg Rugby team, GAA provincial organisation, etc), "Munster Geography" (eg the counties that make up the province), "Munster Irish", etc, it is skirting OR and SYNTH to imply that there is a "Munster Economy" (as distinct from that of the rest of the country, the regions or anything that follows actual provincial bounds). Or indeed no reason to suggest that mining, power-generation, transport or IT companies are somehow managed or organised on a provincial basis. Frankly, they are demonstrably not arranged on this basis, so listing them as such is problematic under WP:SYNTH, WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:LISTN. (While the latter may be intended primarily for stand-alone lists, it is relevant here as list members should have "been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". In this manner, if a "list of airports in Munster" appears nowhere else, then why are we listing them together on Wikipedia - somehow implying that airports are organised or managed on a provincial basis?). Anyway, thoughts are welcome before possibly summarising or removing "stuff that just happens to be in Munster" style content or which otherwise is only very loosely related to the subject. Guliolopez ( talk) 20:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
What is the difference between the names an Mhumhain and Cúige Mumhan? Which one is the official designation? Do they perhaps refer to different things (such as the historical and current province respectively)? And why the Mhumhain/Mumhan spelling difference? /Swedish Wikipedian Genomlysning ( talk) 18:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for
the decimal coordinate for Munster is wrong... the longitude should be positive not negative... the magnitude is correct
— 198.163.53.11 ( talk) 21:24, 19 February 2020 (UTC)