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I am posting here the talk page comments from City clerk, Town clerk, and County clerk that existed before the merger into this article. (Village clerk, which also redirects here now, had no talk page comments to move). — Preceding unsigned comment added by HuskyHuskie ( talk • contribs) 18:18, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
-- Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 13:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that City clerk and Town clerk may be covering the same ground, but I'm not sure. I started looking at these to see which one was closest to Village clerk (for which I wanted to create a redirect instead of a new article), and while I chose to link it to Town clerk, I'm left wondering if all three positions wouldn't just fit in one article. If someone who knows about these would care to comment, I'd be interested in what you had to say. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me that City clerk and Town clerk may be covering the same ground, but I'm not sure. I started looking at these to see which one was closest to Village clerk (for which I wanted to create a redirect instead of a new article), and while I chose to link it to Town clerk, I'm left wondering if all three positions wouldn't just fit in one article. If someone who knows about these would care to comment, I'd be interested in what you had to say. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
How long is the term for county clerk?
The merger of county clerk into this article creates a serious inconsistency. In most U.S. states, a county is a division of the state government, as opposed to a municipal corporation with independent existence. The title should then change to Clerk (government official). Any objections? -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 00:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Suggest splitting the county functionality out to its own article (as it was originally) to avoid convoluted phrasing to separate municipalities and counties.
SBaker43 (
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02:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
This article gives very little information about the kind of work a town clerk actually does. 77Mike77 ( talk) 00:00, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
My point is that not everyone (in North America) has noticed the connection between the word "clerk" and the word "clerical", and so to say that the Town Clerk does pretty much anything, depending on the location, could mean that he/she might sweep floors, stack boxes, water the plants, stand guard at the entrance, place tickets on over-parked cars, respond to calls about burned-out streetlights, etc. I won't edit it myself, but maybe you could add a simple sentence like, "The town clerk generally does work of a clerical nature, such as record-keeping, filing, taking the minutes of the meetings, and so on." Another thing concerns pronunciation: in Britain, they pronounce "clerk" as "clark". 77Mike77 ( talk) 18:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems that one of our Kiwi editors has sought to use this article as an opportunity to promote NZ; the order in the article has been changed to (the ostensibly) neutral state of alphabetical order. I thought historical order, that is, the order in which the position developed in various countries, was a more sensible arrangement, but upon further review, I see the articles are largely bereft of historical info, so that's not important, and I'll not change them (besides, my Yankee ego is strong enough to stand up against this challenge). However, I find the extra layer of headings to be unnecessary, and will remove them. Cheers, all! HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:43, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Clerk (municipal official) → Municipal clerk – Maybe it's too late, but this should have been moved to municipal clerk when we had the chance. This title would be simpler and more intuitive. Nobody is asked their job and replies, "oh, I'm a clerk (municipal official)" or "I'm a keeper (animal care)" or anything in that style. Google it, you'll find that "municipal clerk" is a common term for this position, and the certification is Certified Municipal Clerk (CMC). Similarly, the certification (in the USA) for a municipal finance officer is Certified Municipal Finance Officer (CMFO), not "certified finance officer (municipal official)." Even worse, the real-world generic term for this position is a redlink! I'd go ahead and boldly move this, but I see the page title has already been subject of considerable discussion. Your thoughts? Jack N. Stock ( talk) 22:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
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I am posting here the talk page comments from City clerk, Town clerk, and County clerk that existed before the merger into this article. (Village clerk, which also redirects here now, had no talk page comments to move). — Preceding unsigned comment added by HuskyHuskie ( talk • contribs) 18:18, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
-- Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 13:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that City clerk and Town clerk may be covering the same ground, but I'm not sure. I started looking at these to see which one was closest to Village clerk (for which I wanted to create a redirect instead of a new article), and while I chose to link it to Town clerk, I'm left wondering if all three positions wouldn't just fit in one article. If someone who knows about these would care to comment, I'd be interested in what you had to say. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me that City clerk and Town clerk may be covering the same ground, but I'm not sure. I started looking at these to see which one was closest to Village clerk (for which I wanted to create a redirect instead of a new article), and while I chose to link it to Town clerk, I'm left wondering if all three positions wouldn't just fit in one article. If someone who knows about these would care to comment, I'd be interested in what you had to say. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
How long is the term for county clerk?
The merger of county clerk into this article creates a serious inconsistency. In most U.S. states, a county is a division of the state government, as opposed to a municipal corporation with independent existence. The title should then change to Clerk (government official). Any objections? -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 00:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Suggest splitting the county functionality out to its own article (as it was originally) to avoid convoluted phrasing to separate municipalities and counties.
SBaker43 (
talk)
02:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
This article gives very little information about the kind of work a town clerk actually does. 77Mike77 ( talk) 00:00, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
My point is that not everyone (in North America) has noticed the connection between the word "clerk" and the word "clerical", and so to say that the Town Clerk does pretty much anything, depending on the location, could mean that he/she might sweep floors, stack boxes, water the plants, stand guard at the entrance, place tickets on over-parked cars, respond to calls about burned-out streetlights, etc. I won't edit it myself, but maybe you could add a simple sentence like, "The town clerk generally does work of a clerical nature, such as record-keeping, filing, taking the minutes of the meetings, and so on." Another thing concerns pronunciation: in Britain, they pronounce "clerk" as "clark". 77Mike77 ( talk) 18:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems that one of our Kiwi editors has sought to use this article as an opportunity to promote NZ; the order in the article has been changed to (the ostensibly) neutral state of alphabetical order. I thought historical order, that is, the order in which the position developed in various countries, was a more sensible arrangement, but upon further review, I see the articles are largely bereft of historical info, so that's not important, and I'll not change them (besides, my Yankee ego is strong enough to stand up against this challenge). However, I find the extra layer of headings to be unnecessary, and will remove them. Cheers, all! HuskyHuskie ( talk) 03:43, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Clerk (municipal official) → Municipal clerk – Maybe it's too late, but this should have been moved to municipal clerk when we had the chance. This title would be simpler and more intuitive. Nobody is asked their job and replies, "oh, I'm a clerk (municipal official)" or "I'm a keeper (animal care)" or anything in that style. Google it, you'll find that "municipal clerk" is a common term for this position, and the certification is Certified Municipal Clerk (CMC). Similarly, the certification (in the USA) for a municipal finance officer is Certified Municipal Finance Officer (CMFO), not "certified finance officer (municipal official)." Even worse, the real-world generic term for this position is a redlink! I'd go ahead and boldly move this, but I see the page title has already been subject of considerable discussion. Your thoughts? Jack N. Stock ( talk) 22:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)