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At certain points, the article briefly loses focus, lapsing into dead-end sentences and strange tangents - for example, a one-sentence invocation of the Night of the Long Knives, and a passing comment about the swastika. 71.196.193.154 11:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Munich is the proper name of this city. Lir 00:09 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)
Brion-that is the name of the city. Munich is not the name of the city in English. It is not an English city.
Thanks for the advice-I will be sure to update the Chinese article as well. I am glad we are all in agreement. Lir 00:52 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)
Can I just say that Wikipedia invites that sort of complaint. München ought to be listed under Munich, Köln (is the accent right?) under Cologne and Roma under Rome. But Beijing or 北京 ought be called Peking (regardless of what the Chinese government wants), and Madras, Bombay and Calcutta used for those cities. Why the inconsistency? Avalon 06:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Didn't the Wittelsbach family take over control of the city from the bishops of Freising, as opposed to the "Freising family?" -- User:JohnWebber
Munich was not Hitler's Hometown. He was Austrian. Chris G.
By longstanding convention, when writing an English language article about this city, its name is Munich. When writing a German language article, its name is Munchen. 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)John Paul Parks 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of Beijing, someone ought to find out and document what the "anglophonic" origin of "munich" is all about. Who started calling it "munich" in English, why and when? Hence Jewish Anderstein ( talk) 13:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
If a Polish city of Gdansk has a German name bolded: Danzig; so Munich can also have a Polish name bolded: Monachium.
Any coment on compromise:
Mestwin of Gdansk 00:51, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I would agree with you if Munich had any history of polish settlement,alas it hasn't. A moot point. Count Uebles ( talk) 23:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Please don't call it vandalism because this wouldn't be very polite. This is a retaliation action is response to blocking editing in Gdansk and Szczecin. The goal of this action is just to enter in edit war, block editing, and make the Germans angry. I am very sorry for any inconveniences. Don't blame me. Blame User:Nico. I will stop these actions as soon as Gdansk and/or Szczecin are released. - Mestwin of Gdansk 02:08, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"The Olympiaturm recalls the Munich massacre, which occurred at the 1972 Summer Olympics held in Munich..."
This cannot be correct: The Olympiaturm was built for the Olympics, so it was completed before the massacre.
"The 1974 Soccer World Cup was also held in the city."
The World Cup took place in various German cities and only some matches (including, I think, the finale) were in Munich.
Fallwein 14:10, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure that I might miss something from the main page. But I could not find what's the reason that "München" became "Munich" not "Munchen"-- manop 09:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I tried to correct the English in the description of "modern Munich" (skyscrapers expelled outside the inner city???) but I think this paragraph could be fleshed out a bit. I would like to see some mention somewhere of the modern building that was attached to the ruins of the war museum. When I was a student in Munich in the mid-Seventies I thought this was the most moving memorial I had ever seen, and I think what they've done to it since then (adding modern wings to it to make it some kind of government building) is an abomination. IP129.55.27.4 15:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for you additions. I'm not sure that Munich has any "skyscrapers" however (none come to mind when I think of Munich). According to what I am reading on wikipedia, the Frauenkirche is the tallest building in Munich, and it's not tall enough to be considered a " skyscraper". IP129.55.27.4 21:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
The first paragraph describing the origins of Munich is confusing. This guy Henry founded the city, but he didn't, but the village developed around the bridge that he built, after he destroyed the other bridge, etc. etc. Why not just say something like "Munich was an early roman village on the Isar dating from as early as 123 AD (or whatever) at a point where the river was easy to cross..."? IP129.55.27.4 13:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I would revise it myself if I knew anything about the topic. :-). I would try to find a more common word than "spoilation". Stylistically the entire article tends to suffer from overuse of the passive voice as well as some peculiar diction (e.g. "before the 8th-century monks were putting the St.Peter church on the map."). It's hard to explain how odd some passages sound, although they make for interesting reading. :-) IP129.55.27.4 16:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
In English, the word "already" is not used as often or in the same way that the word "schon" is used in German, except by those whose native language is Yiddish (as in the expression "enough already"). It actually sounds comical to see it used in English sentences composed by Germans. I mention this purely for the benefit of those who would want to improve their English composition skills. :-) 129.55.27.4 16:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
That sentence does not make much sense to me. I'd say either "the following year" or "in the following years" - but I lack access to historical info to choose between those options. Agathoclea 15:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The section on climate seems vague and self-contradictory. For example - "because of the distance to the sea . . . precipitation is rather high" What does this mean ? Is it suggested that Munich is close to the sea ? In which case I would suggest this is not true - I estimate Munich is about 300km from the Adriatic - many large cities in Germany and the rest of Europe are much closer to the sea. Or alternatively, is it suggested that Munich is far from the sea ? If so, why should this great distance lead to high precipitation ? The next sentence - "Rain storms often come violently and unexpectedly" is vague and could be truthfully said about many places in Europe. The rest of the section is similar. I suggest that unless we can add more detailed information, and quote sources, then we should delete this section completely. In its current form it provides practically no useful information. Anyone agree / disagree ? GeraldH 08:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree on both points. It certainly rains a lot in Munich, but why that is exactly I don't know. I think I'll check to see what Wikipedia says about the climate in Seattle... I've also looked at the German Wikipedia article. I think the Fohn needs a lot more description. Although it has its own wikipedia article, the Fohn in Munich is a really big deal. JoppaFlats 20:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it me, or does the German pronunciation of "München" in the .ogg sound file sound a bit inaccurate? Take a listen.
I've created WikiProject Munich. Anyone interested can go to the linked page and sign up. Kingjeff 16:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I created and after a while deleted an entry for the "Mad King" Ludwig II since the place of his birth was not a part of Munich at the time of his life. Maybe it should be added despite this fact for the Nymphenburg castle is in Munich today and an interesting place for tourists to visit. Comments, please. -- Einemnet 20:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Deleted flags as per this diff, this article WP:FLAGS, this debate, and this admin. One down, umpteen thousand to go. Pedro | Talk 20:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Why have flags when they're not going to be used? Kingjeff 22:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Under Olympic Park and Allianz Arena, Fröttmaning is described as a "northern suburb." I realize that in some usage, outer parts of cities can be called suburbs, but I think in American usage, suburb implies a separate city, which Fröttmaning is not. See Etymology on Suburb. I think the article would be clearer with different wording, but I can't think of a good English word for Stadtteil. Neighborhood? Quarter? It's not a Borough, as it is part of the Borough of Schwabing-Freimann -- Pete 10:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, so this discussion page (and associated article) indicate that Bezirk should be translated as Borough, while Stadtteil should be translated locality if it is not equivalent to a Bezirk. This is the usage on the Berlin article, so I'll start using it until I hear otherwise. -- Pete 13:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I just reverted an edit from an anonymous user who exchanged MVV with MVG. That is not correct, both organisations exist, here is their statement:
That's something many people in Munich also confuse, but both citations tell the same story. Einemnet 14:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The part about the referendum and newly planned office towers is less than optimal... a german article about the topic is at sueddeutsche.de, the new building ( german project description) of the newspaper's publishing house will have 28 floors instead of 39 as planned initially. Plans for other office towers were also affected by this referendum, namely SIEMENS stopped their project but that was also due to the overall bad market situation for office buildings. The referendum couldn't stop other towers already in construction (two towers at Donnersberger Brücke, one tower close to the Olympic stadium, one other at the end of Leopoldstrasse). At least one of these buildings had no single paying hirer for years. I don't know their actual height but can find that out if neccessary. Background of the referendum: some people just don't want other buildings to be built higher than the cathedral (99 meters). Munich already had this restriction of 100 meters but only for new buildings inside the old fortification. Now this also affects planning in the outskirts. Bit long, isn't it? Not sure how that could fit in one or two sentences. IMHO the whole topic just gives everyone a picture of how small people are thinking in Munich. So, who has an idea how that section can be optimised? -- Einemnet 16:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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A peer review was done and I think we should go through with it. I've already started. Kingjeff 19:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing about Munich Council adopting Linux software. At the time this made for a lot of comment. [1]-- Aspro 15:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC) OK, have you considered adding the section yourself? I would like to see someone FROM Munich comment. Possibly just linking to the Linux V Microsoft battle is enough? The City is pretty famous already, but I suppose the Linux thing is pretty important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.72.217.96 ( talk) 12:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm from Munich, and to anyone not involved in the free software movement, it's a minor and obscure point barely noteworthy. It got some national press coverage when the programme was started, and I recently saw a followup article in a local newspaper, but all in all I'd say it's not prominent enough to get a section of its own. Brazzy ( talk) 12:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Per the article about the tower, I think the caption for the BMW tower is false.
The building's page says that "During the construction, individual floors were assembled on the ground and then elevated", which clearly is bottom up, since each new floor was placed on top of the previous floor.
I found text matching the caption here, but it's based on this article.
Hope nobody gets mad, but I'm removing the text.
65.169.210.66
20:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The exact wording might only appear on wikipedia in English but the process is rather well explained in the German counterpart of the article. It was built top to bottom in the sense that floors where hoisted up to be suspended underneath the next floor up. As far as the term bowl is concerned is apparently is nicknamed Salatschüssel or Weißwurstkessel both meaning bowl/pot. Agathoclea 21:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The boroughs of Munich article must be merged with the subdivisions section of this article since the section is not explained thoroughly. It only says there that there are 25 boroughs comprising Munich without information what are these boroughs. Any additional short information about these boroughs can be helpful for readers; however, do not expound on those info. - Pika ten10 ( talk) 06:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
But I think this would only require a partial merger. If the whole thing is mergered, then the Boroughs of Munich should be a redirect to that section in the Munich article. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm against a complete merger. Keeping the other article boroughs of Munich makes sense since the list of the older division is far too long for a section in the Munich article. This older division is important for historical reasons and I'm sure this will be expanded soon enough: Munich celebrates a "birthday" in 2008. Pika ten10, can you give us a reason why there is a must to merge both articles? -- Einemnet ( talk) 13:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm also against a merger. It is often the cases that city articles become too long and therefore sections must be given their own articles. This is taking a backwards step. Welshleprechaun ( talk) 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've never heard "Minga" and I live in Munich (and speak Bavarian)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.21.189 ( talk) 09:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I live in Munich and while one rarely hears "Minga" in the city itself, in surrounding areas the use of "Minga" is quite common. In Regensburg a common expression is, Hoaste puivah? Fahr'ma na' Minga ("Hast du Pulver? Fahren wir nach München" -- where Pulver (powder) is archaic regional slang for Geld/money). BadDoggie ( talk) 11:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The article contains the comment, "The city would once again become a Nazi stronghold when the Nazis took power in Germany in 1933."
The phrase "took power" is wrong, as that suggests or implies some sort of forcible change of government. Hitler was appointed Chancellor by President Paul von Hindenburg. It was all done quite legally and according to "the rule of law," pursuant to the Constitution and laws of the Weimar Republic. 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)John Paul Parks 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
According to the "Bayerisches Kochbuch" ( ISBN 3-920105-01-X) the term Brezel (Brezeln is the plural form) is correct. This cookbook also mentions Wurstsalat instead of the fantasy term Wurschtsalat. Auszogene is imho the right term, let's avoid Deppen-Bayerisch here, see this sueddeutsche.de article (in German). I reverted an edit and have a look at the complete section. -- Einemnet ( talk) 12:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Should this "Gamma World City" concept be in the introductory paragraph?
It seems to be presenting an obscure, subjective, and advocatory (of globalism) concept developed by some random scholar as if it were vital, standard information everyone should know about a place.
It looks like this is violating both advocacy and neutral point of view principals of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.155.15 ( talk) 09:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I always thought of a resident as somebody who lives in an area at present - to this end, Freddie Mercury can't be a resident, because he's dead (unless he is buried in Munich, which I'm not sure if he was). The term 'resident' implies he is there at the moment, and its a little misleading. I assume I've misunderstood this. TheMoridian 20:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the list includes past and present residence. Kingjeff ( talk) 14:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Kingjeff is right, and this is actually mostly a list of past (and passed away) residents: Thomas Mann, Lenin, Hitler, Stuck, Wagner, Lola Montez... Moridian, please just follow the links and read about those persons! -- Einemnet ( talk) 21:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Munich has seven twin cities: Bordeaux, Cincinnati, Edinburgh, Harare, Kiew, Sapporo, Verona - -- Einemnet ( talk) 16:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
München mag dich — "Munich loves you" — or is it "Munich likes you" — ??
Sca ( talk) 19:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
In Bavarian though doesn't mogen mean to love e.g i mog di = i love you (differing with standard german) —Preceding
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That might be the reason why the official translation of the motto used by the city of Munich in advertisements (see http://www.muenchen.de/home/163628/munichlovesyou.html) is "Munich loves you" and not "Munich likes you". I think that the official englisch motto should at least be mentioned in the article. 85.181.85.164 ( talk) 17:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
6,000,000?? I suspect population vandalism. Admiral Norton ( talk) 20:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The Munich-Feldmoching railway station page describes "the Feldmoching quarter" in "the north-west of Munich." However, the Munich page makes no explicit mention of Feldmoching. Is it actually a quarter, or borough, neighborhood, or other municipal division? -- Deborahjay ( talk) 07:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I have added a bit of information about Austro-Bavarian language as a very important fact of the own culture of Munich.-- Auslli ( talk) 07:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The article states that "47.4% of Munich's residents are not affiliated with any religious group," and that "as of 31 December 2008, 38.3% of the city's inhabitants were Roman Catholic, 14.0% Protestant, and 0.3% Jewish." It cannot be the case that the non-affiliated, mainstream Christians, and Jewish people together make up 100% of the population of Munich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.64.22.132 ( talk) 18:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Lord Mayor? Is that how you translate Oberbuergermeister? Not correct... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.206.121 ( talk) 21:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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The climate chart is based on three different sites: the WMO, this and this one (using NOAA data) I suggest to use WMO data only, at least for the city center; the NOAA dataset seems to refer to the airport (München Flughafen).-- Carnby ( talk) 11:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
München isn't the only place in the world that has one name in the native language and another in English. Sometimes the English name seems to stem from historic bastardization of the name by speakers of other languages that took root (Bombay/Mumbai), other times it's a historic name that didn't quickly take root with some outsiders (like Germany/Deutschland).
It seems plausible to me that the city was once called Munich. The "ch" sound at the end seems way more like Deutsch than it does like bastardized English. What I mean is that if someone were going to anglicize/bastardize the name München, they likely wouldn't settle upon "Munich." Something more like "Moonkin" or something perhaps sounding a bit more like an English city name.
Am I incorrectly surmising that the city was at some point in its history locally known as "Munich" which changed at some point? And that English speakers didn't pick up on the change until the name was "set in stone" in both languages? I recognize that the etymology of foreign names for cities isn't customarily a part of city articles, but if Munich is a historical name it seems like it would be fitting to include some information on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.63.33 ( talk) 19:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Did Munich really grow at an alarming rate? Who was alarmed? - Leidolf
"The Frauenkirche's towers (109 meters or 358 feet tall) are also the measurement for a new rule which limits the height of new buildings to the same height"
109 meters is the length of the church; the towers are 99 meters resp. 100 meters tall. See also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenkirche_%28M%C3%BCnchen%29
"The Olympiaturm (Olympic Tower) (...) was built for the 1972 Summer Olympics which were held in Munich."
This is not correct. The tower was planned and built for broadcasting and telecommunication purposes ("Fernsehturm"); construction started in 1965, one year before anyone thought of Olympic Games in Munich. After Munich was declared the site of the 1972 Olympic Summer Games, the growing tower became part of the "Olympiagelände" (Olympic Park) and was renamed "Olympiaturm". The tower was finished in 1968.
Source: "München. Heimat und Weltstadt." Munich, 1982, page 153 f.
"Despite its name, Oktoberfest actually begins in September. It lasts two weeks and always finishes on the first Sunday in October."
Nitpicking: except in years when the "Tag der Deutschen Einheit" (German National Holyday) Oct 3rd is a monday (like this year) - then the Oktoberfest lasts one day longer.
Franz X. Fackler, Munich, Germany 28 August 2005
Why is Unterhaching listed as one of Munich's sports clubs. It's simply not one of them. Do you also want to list clubs of other cities in the vicinity of Munich (such as Dachau, Fuerstenfeldbruck, Puchheim, Gauting, etc.)? I think it should be removed.
I agree with that. As Unterhaching is not a part of Munich, the SpVgg should be removed from the list of the sport clubs.
A mosque is planned not too far from the city center on a vacant lot used now as a parking lot and directly face to face with a catholic church (St. Korbinian at Gotzinger Platz, borough of Sendling). This would be the first "real" mosque inside Munich and is a controversial topic. This is an important fact since the new synagogue just opened. Should this article about the Mosque in Sendling not be integrated here?
How would people feel about using this infobox instead?
An article on the X Games held in Munich in 2013 would be really nice, compare to X Games Los Angeles 2013. Cheers! Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 22:56, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
According to an article "Global city" here: Global city Munich is global city... Kartasto ( talk) 11:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC) Kartasto ( talk) 11:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, a basic section on Tourism in Munich would be favourable, see de:München#Tourismus. Thanks, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:18, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
The table of Munich's climate says the maximum temp for Munich in November is 18,8 °C. However, according to my records, Munich had a tmax of 20,0 °C on Nov 17, 2009. Also, the maximum in the table has been cracked several times this November. On Nov 2 it was 19,4°C, Nov 3 19,2°C, and today at 13:OO CET Munich recorded 22,5 °C which may not be the end of it for today. It can all be fount on http://www.wetteronline.de. -- Maxl ( talk) 12:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
in what language is munich pronounced /mjunIx/? certainly not in english or german... 76.102.137.73 ( talk) 01:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
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Although it gives a source, the list of the largest employers in Munich is faulty. It doesn't make sense that the smaller Technichal University of Munich should have >9000 employers, while the larger Ludwig-Maximilian Universität doesn't even make the list. Both universities are state-run, so that can't be the issue.
Sure enough, the Wikipedia entry lists >16.000 employees for the LMU (the German page lists 6000 without the university hospital and >10.000 for the university hospital - note that such a distinction is not shown for the Technical University, which also has a hospital). It gets worse, because not all of the employees are actually employed in Munich, since especially the Technical University has a majority of institutes in Garching (not Munich) and Weihenstephan (Freising, not Munich).
Next, the airport seems weird. It's not in Munich, so do we count only the people working there who actually come from Munich? Then the number is approximately correct according to [ [9]], but all those people work for many different employers at the airport. That seems weird. If we count any other way, the numbers are just plain wrong.
Other firms not listed but which could make the list include infineon: If the technical university fits the list, although most of its people work outside Munich (and many of those also live outside of Munich), then why not count infineon with 3300 employees at Neubiberg near Munich? 217.84.236.226 ( talk) 23:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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I see, it's the capital of "the second most populous German federal state of Bavaria" So, which German federal state of Bavaria is the first, then? 212.203.0.54 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Picture captioned "Alps behind the skyline of Munich" is edited and does not represent a real life image of Munich. You cannot see the Alps from Munich (except possibly on the clearest days from a very high point) as Munich is 80km from the Alps.
I've removed the section on Oktoberfest (there were zero citations or references) and replaced it with a much larger section on festivals as a whole. This is for a class assignment. BethanyJJohnson ( talk) 02:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Nillurcheier, the Scottish flag had been in the article before an IP editor decided to replace it with the Union jack. See
random previous version. I simply reverted him. Your "no exceptions" doesn't make sense and isn't a policy-based reasoning. I'm not being nationalistic as it isn't my flag but the more specific that you get on information the better it is. If you are pairing with a Scottish city, it makes sense to use the Scottish flag. This does not deny that Edinburgh is in the UK. Actually, to be more specific there is a city flag for Edinburgh although I don't know if we have an image for it...yes,
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Berean Hunter, thanks for the info. It seems that using the "country" flags for England, Scotland and Wales is widely accepted on the English Wikipedia, whereas the German Article on Munich uses the UK-flag. Of course this should be discussed on a general level rather than on the Munich page. And it is obviously an unlogical exception to use subnational flags for just one UN-member. But maybe this has been discussed and decided before? -- Nillurcheier ( talk) 12:28, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
There is no general agreement or guidance on placement of twinning information. There are some editors who are interested in twinning and they will tend to create a separate section especially for twinning information, though there is no guidance for that. Some editors prefer to place the twinning information within the governance section as almost always the twinning is done as part of governance - it is a local authority thing. Outside of the local council, there is very little or no interest in twinning. Twinning is done by the local council, and advertised by the local council - such as on the settlement sign at the borders of the settlement. I have rarely seen twinning mentioned by individuals or organisations outside the local authority. Example of how twinning is dealt with as part of governance: Southampton#Governance. This also avoids the necessity of having a discussion about flags, as in cases like this flag icons are actually discouraged as they appear to be mere decoration: WP:ICONDECORATION. If we have the name Scotland, why do we also need a flag symbol? They are both saying the same thing. Though most people would recognise the name more readily than the flag, so if there is to be a choice between the two, then in running prose the country name is more useful. Flags tend to be used in lists such as sporting events like the Olympics, where the name of the country has already been given, and the flag icon serves as a quick and easy shortcut identifier. Flag icons are not helpful to those who are unsighted and use reading machines. So, my suggestion is that the twinning details be turned into prose without the icons per MOS:LISTBASICS, WP:ICONDECORATION, and WP:ACCESSIBILITY and used within the Governance section. It's clean, informative, encyclopedic, follows existing guidelines, and avoids arguments and confusion. SilkTork ( talk) 17:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Can someone explain why in a city with a population of 1.5 million a party is getting 11 million votes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackwater-Bradfield1900 ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
that results from the fact that each voter does have as many votes to distribute as there are members in the city council. Which means that each of the around 1.1 millon (if I'm correct) people eligible to vote had 80 votes. The total number of valid votes cast sums up to 40.408.200. Btw the Bavarian voting system on the communal level is very flexible: You can place up to 3 votes onto a single candidate ( Cumulative voting) and additionally it is possible to place votes on candidates from different parties ( Panachage).
InfoBroker2020 ( talk) 19:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Recently, @ KaiMartin has changed ( ) an image in Infobox displaying Neues Rathaus (New Townhall) and Frauenkirche from File:Stadtbild München.jpg (existing) to File:Frauenkirche and Neues Rathaus Munich March 2013.JPG (new). The existing image has both Rathaus and Frauenkirche in portrait and has a clear display with abundant sunshine. The new image cuts off the Rathaus in half and also has less sunshine compared to the existing image. From the metadata of the images on Commons, both the images are taken in 2013 with just 20 days apart, giving them no distinguishable ageing. I think the older image should be used. -- DaxServer ( talk) 09:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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At certain points, the article briefly loses focus, lapsing into dead-end sentences and strange tangents - for example, a one-sentence invocation of the Night of the Long Knives, and a passing comment about the swastika. 71.196.193.154 11:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Munich is the proper name of this city. Lir 00:09 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)
Brion-that is the name of the city. Munich is not the name of the city in English. It is not an English city.
Thanks for the advice-I will be sure to update the Chinese article as well. I am glad we are all in agreement. Lir 00:52 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)
Can I just say that Wikipedia invites that sort of complaint. München ought to be listed under Munich, Köln (is the accent right?) under Cologne and Roma under Rome. But Beijing or 北京 ought be called Peking (regardless of what the Chinese government wants), and Madras, Bombay and Calcutta used for those cities. Why the inconsistency? Avalon 06:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Didn't the Wittelsbach family take over control of the city from the bishops of Freising, as opposed to the "Freising family?" -- User:JohnWebber
Munich was not Hitler's Hometown. He was Austrian. Chris G.
By longstanding convention, when writing an English language article about this city, its name is Munich. When writing a German language article, its name is Munchen. 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)John Paul Parks 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of Beijing, someone ought to find out and document what the "anglophonic" origin of "munich" is all about. Who started calling it "munich" in English, why and when? Hence Jewish Anderstein ( talk) 13:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
If a Polish city of Gdansk has a German name bolded: Danzig; so Munich can also have a Polish name bolded: Monachium.
Any coment on compromise:
Mestwin of Gdansk 00:51, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I would agree with you if Munich had any history of polish settlement,alas it hasn't. A moot point. Count Uebles ( talk) 23:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Please don't call it vandalism because this wouldn't be very polite. This is a retaliation action is response to blocking editing in Gdansk and Szczecin. The goal of this action is just to enter in edit war, block editing, and make the Germans angry. I am very sorry for any inconveniences. Don't blame me. Blame User:Nico. I will stop these actions as soon as Gdansk and/or Szczecin are released. - Mestwin of Gdansk 02:08, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"The Olympiaturm recalls the Munich massacre, which occurred at the 1972 Summer Olympics held in Munich..."
This cannot be correct: The Olympiaturm was built for the Olympics, so it was completed before the massacre.
"The 1974 Soccer World Cup was also held in the city."
The World Cup took place in various German cities and only some matches (including, I think, the finale) were in Munich.
Fallwein 14:10, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure that I might miss something from the main page. But I could not find what's the reason that "München" became "Munich" not "Munchen"-- manop 09:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I tried to correct the English in the description of "modern Munich" (skyscrapers expelled outside the inner city???) but I think this paragraph could be fleshed out a bit. I would like to see some mention somewhere of the modern building that was attached to the ruins of the war museum. When I was a student in Munich in the mid-Seventies I thought this was the most moving memorial I had ever seen, and I think what they've done to it since then (adding modern wings to it to make it some kind of government building) is an abomination. IP129.55.27.4 15:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for you additions. I'm not sure that Munich has any "skyscrapers" however (none come to mind when I think of Munich). According to what I am reading on wikipedia, the Frauenkirche is the tallest building in Munich, and it's not tall enough to be considered a " skyscraper". IP129.55.27.4 21:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
The first paragraph describing the origins of Munich is confusing. This guy Henry founded the city, but he didn't, but the village developed around the bridge that he built, after he destroyed the other bridge, etc. etc. Why not just say something like "Munich was an early roman village on the Isar dating from as early as 123 AD (or whatever) at a point where the river was easy to cross..."? IP129.55.27.4 13:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I would revise it myself if I knew anything about the topic. :-). I would try to find a more common word than "spoilation". Stylistically the entire article tends to suffer from overuse of the passive voice as well as some peculiar diction (e.g. "before the 8th-century monks were putting the St.Peter church on the map."). It's hard to explain how odd some passages sound, although they make for interesting reading. :-) IP129.55.27.4 16:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
In English, the word "already" is not used as often or in the same way that the word "schon" is used in German, except by those whose native language is Yiddish (as in the expression "enough already"). It actually sounds comical to see it used in English sentences composed by Germans. I mention this purely for the benefit of those who would want to improve their English composition skills. :-) 129.55.27.4 16:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
That sentence does not make much sense to me. I'd say either "the following year" or "in the following years" - but I lack access to historical info to choose between those options. Agathoclea 15:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The section on climate seems vague and self-contradictory. For example - "because of the distance to the sea . . . precipitation is rather high" What does this mean ? Is it suggested that Munich is close to the sea ? In which case I would suggest this is not true - I estimate Munich is about 300km from the Adriatic - many large cities in Germany and the rest of Europe are much closer to the sea. Or alternatively, is it suggested that Munich is far from the sea ? If so, why should this great distance lead to high precipitation ? The next sentence - "Rain storms often come violently and unexpectedly" is vague and could be truthfully said about many places in Europe. The rest of the section is similar. I suggest that unless we can add more detailed information, and quote sources, then we should delete this section completely. In its current form it provides practically no useful information. Anyone agree / disagree ? GeraldH 08:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree on both points. It certainly rains a lot in Munich, but why that is exactly I don't know. I think I'll check to see what Wikipedia says about the climate in Seattle... I've also looked at the German Wikipedia article. I think the Fohn needs a lot more description. Although it has its own wikipedia article, the Fohn in Munich is a really big deal. JoppaFlats 20:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it me, or does the German pronunciation of "München" in the .ogg sound file sound a bit inaccurate? Take a listen.
I've created WikiProject Munich. Anyone interested can go to the linked page and sign up. Kingjeff 16:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I created and after a while deleted an entry for the "Mad King" Ludwig II since the place of his birth was not a part of Munich at the time of his life. Maybe it should be added despite this fact for the Nymphenburg castle is in Munich today and an interesting place for tourists to visit. Comments, please. -- Einemnet 20:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Deleted flags as per this diff, this article WP:FLAGS, this debate, and this admin. One down, umpteen thousand to go. Pedro | Talk 20:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Why have flags when they're not going to be used? Kingjeff 22:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Under Olympic Park and Allianz Arena, Fröttmaning is described as a "northern suburb." I realize that in some usage, outer parts of cities can be called suburbs, but I think in American usage, suburb implies a separate city, which Fröttmaning is not. See Etymology on Suburb. I think the article would be clearer with different wording, but I can't think of a good English word for Stadtteil. Neighborhood? Quarter? It's not a Borough, as it is part of the Borough of Schwabing-Freimann -- Pete 10:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, so this discussion page (and associated article) indicate that Bezirk should be translated as Borough, while Stadtteil should be translated locality if it is not equivalent to a Bezirk. This is the usage on the Berlin article, so I'll start using it until I hear otherwise. -- Pete 13:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I just reverted an edit from an anonymous user who exchanged MVV with MVG. That is not correct, both organisations exist, here is their statement:
That's something many people in Munich also confuse, but both citations tell the same story. Einemnet 14:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The part about the referendum and newly planned office towers is less than optimal... a german article about the topic is at sueddeutsche.de, the new building ( german project description) of the newspaper's publishing house will have 28 floors instead of 39 as planned initially. Plans for other office towers were also affected by this referendum, namely SIEMENS stopped their project but that was also due to the overall bad market situation for office buildings. The referendum couldn't stop other towers already in construction (two towers at Donnersberger Brücke, one tower close to the Olympic stadium, one other at the end of Leopoldstrasse). At least one of these buildings had no single paying hirer for years. I don't know their actual height but can find that out if neccessary. Background of the referendum: some people just don't want other buildings to be built higher than the cathedral (99 meters). Munich already had this restriction of 100 meters but only for new buildings inside the old fortification. Now this also affects planning in the outskirts. Bit long, isn't it? Not sure how that could fit in one or two sentences. IMHO the whole topic just gives everyone a picture of how small people are thinking in Munich. So, who has an idea how that section can be optimised? -- Einemnet 16:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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A peer review was done and I think we should go through with it. I've already started. Kingjeff 19:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing about Munich Council adopting Linux software. At the time this made for a lot of comment. [1]-- Aspro 15:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC) OK, have you considered adding the section yourself? I would like to see someone FROM Munich comment. Possibly just linking to the Linux V Microsoft battle is enough? The City is pretty famous already, but I suppose the Linux thing is pretty important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.72.217.96 ( talk) 12:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm from Munich, and to anyone not involved in the free software movement, it's a minor and obscure point barely noteworthy. It got some national press coverage when the programme was started, and I recently saw a followup article in a local newspaper, but all in all I'd say it's not prominent enough to get a section of its own. Brazzy ( talk) 12:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Per the article about the tower, I think the caption for the BMW tower is false.
The building's page says that "During the construction, individual floors were assembled on the ground and then elevated", which clearly is bottom up, since each new floor was placed on top of the previous floor.
I found text matching the caption here, but it's based on this article.
Hope nobody gets mad, but I'm removing the text.
65.169.210.66
20:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The exact wording might only appear on wikipedia in English but the process is rather well explained in the German counterpart of the article. It was built top to bottom in the sense that floors where hoisted up to be suspended underneath the next floor up. As far as the term bowl is concerned is apparently is nicknamed Salatschüssel or Weißwurstkessel both meaning bowl/pot. Agathoclea 21:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The boroughs of Munich article must be merged with the subdivisions section of this article since the section is not explained thoroughly. It only says there that there are 25 boroughs comprising Munich without information what are these boroughs. Any additional short information about these boroughs can be helpful for readers; however, do not expound on those info. - Pika ten10 ( talk) 06:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
But I think this would only require a partial merger. If the whole thing is mergered, then the Boroughs of Munich should be a redirect to that section in the Munich article. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm against a complete merger. Keeping the other article boroughs of Munich makes sense since the list of the older division is far too long for a section in the Munich article. This older division is important for historical reasons and I'm sure this will be expanded soon enough: Munich celebrates a "birthday" in 2008. Pika ten10, can you give us a reason why there is a must to merge both articles? -- Einemnet ( talk) 13:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm also against a merger. It is often the cases that city articles become too long and therefore sections must be given their own articles. This is taking a backwards step. Welshleprechaun ( talk) 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've never heard "Minga" and I live in Munich (and speak Bavarian)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.21.189 ( talk) 09:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I live in Munich and while one rarely hears "Minga" in the city itself, in surrounding areas the use of "Minga" is quite common. In Regensburg a common expression is, Hoaste puivah? Fahr'ma na' Minga ("Hast du Pulver? Fahren wir nach München" -- where Pulver (powder) is archaic regional slang for Geld/money). BadDoggie ( talk) 11:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The article contains the comment, "The city would once again become a Nazi stronghold when the Nazis took power in Germany in 1933."
The phrase "took power" is wrong, as that suggests or implies some sort of forcible change of government. Hitler was appointed Chancellor by President Paul von Hindenburg. It was all done quite legally and according to "the rule of law," pursuant to the Constitution and laws of the Weimar Republic. 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)John Paul Parks 130.13.4.241 ( talk) 13:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
According to the "Bayerisches Kochbuch" ( ISBN 3-920105-01-X) the term Brezel (Brezeln is the plural form) is correct. This cookbook also mentions Wurstsalat instead of the fantasy term Wurschtsalat. Auszogene is imho the right term, let's avoid Deppen-Bayerisch here, see this sueddeutsche.de article (in German). I reverted an edit and have a look at the complete section. -- Einemnet ( talk) 12:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Should this "Gamma World City" concept be in the introductory paragraph?
It seems to be presenting an obscure, subjective, and advocatory (of globalism) concept developed by some random scholar as if it were vital, standard information everyone should know about a place.
It looks like this is violating both advocacy and neutral point of view principals of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.155.15 ( talk) 09:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I always thought of a resident as somebody who lives in an area at present - to this end, Freddie Mercury can't be a resident, because he's dead (unless he is buried in Munich, which I'm not sure if he was). The term 'resident' implies he is there at the moment, and its a little misleading. I assume I've misunderstood this. TheMoridian 20:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the list includes past and present residence. Kingjeff ( talk) 14:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Kingjeff is right, and this is actually mostly a list of past (and passed away) residents: Thomas Mann, Lenin, Hitler, Stuck, Wagner, Lola Montez... Moridian, please just follow the links and read about those persons! -- Einemnet ( talk) 21:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Munich has seven twin cities: Bordeaux, Cincinnati, Edinburgh, Harare, Kiew, Sapporo, Verona - -- Einemnet ( talk) 16:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
München mag dich — "Munich loves you" — or is it "Munich likes you" — ??
Sca ( talk) 19:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
In Bavarian though doesn't mogen mean to love e.g i mog di = i love you (differing with standard german) —Preceding
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That might be the reason why the official translation of the motto used by the city of Munich in advertisements (see http://www.muenchen.de/home/163628/munichlovesyou.html) is "Munich loves you" and not "Munich likes you". I think that the official englisch motto should at least be mentioned in the article. 85.181.85.164 ( talk) 17:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
6,000,000?? I suspect population vandalism. Admiral Norton ( talk) 20:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The Munich-Feldmoching railway station page describes "the Feldmoching quarter" in "the north-west of Munich." However, the Munich page makes no explicit mention of Feldmoching. Is it actually a quarter, or borough, neighborhood, or other municipal division? -- Deborahjay ( talk) 07:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I have added a bit of information about Austro-Bavarian language as a very important fact of the own culture of Munich.-- Auslli ( talk) 07:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The article states that "47.4% of Munich's residents are not affiliated with any religious group," and that "as of 31 December 2008, 38.3% of the city's inhabitants were Roman Catholic, 14.0% Protestant, and 0.3% Jewish." It cannot be the case that the non-affiliated, mainstream Christians, and Jewish people together make up 100% of the population of Munich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.64.22.132 ( talk) 18:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Lord Mayor? Is that how you translate Oberbuergermeister? Not correct... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.206.121 ( talk) 21:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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The climate chart is based on three different sites: the WMO, this and this one (using NOAA data) I suggest to use WMO data only, at least for the city center; the NOAA dataset seems to refer to the airport (München Flughafen).-- Carnby ( talk) 11:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
München isn't the only place in the world that has one name in the native language and another in English. Sometimes the English name seems to stem from historic bastardization of the name by speakers of other languages that took root (Bombay/Mumbai), other times it's a historic name that didn't quickly take root with some outsiders (like Germany/Deutschland).
It seems plausible to me that the city was once called Munich. The "ch" sound at the end seems way more like Deutsch than it does like bastardized English. What I mean is that if someone were going to anglicize/bastardize the name München, they likely wouldn't settle upon "Munich." Something more like "Moonkin" or something perhaps sounding a bit more like an English city name.
Am I incorrectly surmising that the city was at some point in its history locally known as "Munich" which changed at some point? And that English speakers didn't pick up on the change until the name was "set in stone" in both languages? I recognize that the etymology of foreign names for cities isn't customarily a part of city articles, but if Munich is a historical name it seems like it would be fitting to include some information on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.63.33 ( talk) 19:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Did Munich really grow at an alarming rate? Who was alarmed? - Leidolf
"The Frauenkirche's towers (109 meters or 358 feet tall) are also the measurement for a new rule which limits the height of new buildings to the same height"
109 meters is the length of the church; the towers are 99 meters resp. 100 meters tall. See also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenkirche_%28M%C3%BCnchen%29
"The Olympiaturm (Olympic Tower) (...) was built for the 1972 Summer Olympics which were held in Munich."
This is not correct. The tower was planned and built for broadcasting and telecommunication purposes ("Fernsehturm"); construction started in 1965, one year before anyone thought of Olympic Games in Munich. After Munich was declared the site of the 1972 Olympic Summer Games, the growing tower became part of the "Olympiagelände" (Olympic Park) and was renamed "Olympiaturm". The tower was finished in 1968.
Source: "München. Heimat und Weltstadt." Munich, 1982, page 153 f.
"Despite its name, Oktoberfest actually begins in September. It lasts two weeks and always finishes on the first Sunday in October."
Nitpicking: except in years when the "Tag der Deutschen Einheit" (German National Holyday) Oct 3rd is a monday (like this year) - then the Oktoberfest lasts one day longer.
Franz X. Fackler, Munich, Germany 28 August 2005
Why is Unterhaching listed as one of Munich's sports clubs. It's simply not one of them. Do you also want to list clubs of other cities in the vicinity of Munich (such as Dachau, Fuerstenfeldbruck, Puchheim, Gauting, etc.)? I think it should be removed.
I agree with that. As Unterhaching is not a part of Munich, the SpVgg should be removed from the list of the sport clubs.
A mosque is planned not too far from the city center on a vacant lot used now as a parking lot and directly face to face with a catholic church (St. Korbinian at Gotzinger Platz, borough of Sendling). This would be the first "real" mosque inside Munich and is a controversial topic. This is an important fact since the new synagogue just opened. Should this article about the Mosque in Sendling not be integrated here?
How would people feel about using this infobox instead?
An article on the X Games held in Munich in 2013 would be really nice, compare to X Games Los Angeles 2013. Cheers! Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 22:56, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
According to an article "Global city" here: Global city Munich is global city... Kartasto ( talk) 11:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC) Kartasto ( talk) 11:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, a basic section on Tourism in Munich would be favourable, see de:München#Tourismus. Thanks, Horst-schlaemma ( talk) 09:18, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
The table of Munich's climate says the maximum temp for Munich in November is 18,8 °C. However, according to my records, Munich had a tmax of 20,0 °C on Nov 17, 2009. Also, the maximum in the table has been cracked several times this November. On Nov 2 it was 19,4°C, Nov 3 19,2°C, and today at 13:OO CET Munich recorded 22,5 °C which may not be the end of it for today. It can all be fount on http://www.wetteronline.de. -- Maxl ( talk) 12:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
in what language is munich pronounced /mjunIx/? certainly not in english or german... 76.102.137.73 ( talk) 01:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
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Although it gives a source, the list of the largest employers in Munich is faulty. It doesn't make sense that the smaller Technichal University of Munich should have >9000 employers, while the larger Ludwig-Maximilian Universität doesn't even make the list. Both universities are state-run, so that can't be the issue.
Sure enough, the Wikipedia entry lists >16.000 employees for the LMU (the German page lists 6000 without the university hospital and >10.000 for the university hospital - note that such a distinction is not shown for the Technical University, which also has a hospital). It gets worse, because not all of the employees are actually employed in Munich, since especially the Technical University has a majority of institutes in Garching (not Munich) and Weihenstephan (Freising, not Munich).
Next, the airport seems weird. It's not in Munich, so do we count only the people working there who actually come from Munich? Then the number is approximately correct according to [ [9]], but all those people work for many different employers at the airport. That seems weird. If we count any other way, the numbers are just plain wrong.
Other firms not listed but which could make the list include infineon: If the technical university fits the list, although most of its people work outside Munich (and many of those also live outside of Munich), then why not count infineon with 3300 employees at Neubiberg near Munich? 217.84.236.226 ( talk) 23:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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I see, it's the capital of "the second most populous German federal state of Bavaria" So, which German federal state of Bavaria is the first, then? 212.203.0.54 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Picture captioned "Alps behind the skyline of Munich" is edited and does not represent a real life image of Munich. You cannot see the Alps from Munich (except possibly on the clearest days from a very high point) as Munich is 80km from the Alps.
I've removed the section on Oktoberfest (there were zero citations or references) and replaced it with a much larger section on festivals as a whole. This is for a class assignment. BethanyJJohnson ( talk) 02:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Nillurcheier, the Scottish flag had been in the article before an IP editor decided to replace it with the Union jack. See
random previous version. I simply reverted him. Your "no exceptions" doesn't make sense and isn't a policy-based reasoning. I'm not being nationalistic as it isn't my flag but the more specific that you get on information the better it is. If you are pairing with a Scottish city, it makes sense to use the Scottish flag. This does not deny that Edinburgh is in the UK. Actually, to be more specific there is a city flag for Edinburgh although I don't know if we have an image for it...yes,
File:Flag of Edinburgh.svg
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Berean Hunter, thanks for the info. It seems that using the "country" flags for England, Scotland and Wales is widely accepted on the English Wikipedia, whereas the German Article on Munich uses the UK-flag. Of course this should be discussed on a general level rather than on the Munich page. And it is obviously an unlogical exception to use subnational flags for just one UN-member. But maybe this has been discussed and decided before? -- Nillurcheier ( talk) 12:28, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
There is no general agreement or guidance on placement of twinning information. There are some editors who are interested in twinning and they will tend to create a separate section especially for twinning information, though there is no guidance for that. Some editors prefer to place the twinning information within the governance section as almost always the twinning is done as part of governance - it is a local authority thing. Outside of the local council, there is very little or no interest in twinning. Twinning is done by the local council, and advertised by the local council - such as on the settlement sign at the borders of the settlement. I have rarely seen twinning mentioned by individuals or organisations outside the local authority. Example of how twinning is dealt with as part of governance: Southampton#Governance. This also avoids the necessity of having a discussion about flags, as in cases like this flag icons are actually discouraged as they appear to be mere decoration: WP:ICONDECORATION. If we have the name Scotland, why do we also need a flag symbol? They are both saying the same thing. Though most people would recognise the name more readily than the flag, so if there is to be a choice between the two, then in running prose the country name is more useful. Flags tend to be used in lists such as sporting events like the Olympics, where the name of the country has already been given, and the flag icon serves as a quick and easy shortcut identifier. Flag icons are not helpful to those who are unsighted and use reading machines. So, my suggestion is that the twinning details be turned into prose without the icons per MOS:LISTBASICS, WP:ICONDECORATION, and WP:ACCESSIBILITY and used within the Governance section. It's clean, informative, encyclopedic, follows existing guidelines, and avoids arguments and confusion. SilkTork ( talk) 17:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Can someone explain why in a city with a population of 1.5 million a party is getting 11 million votes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackwater-Bradfield1900 ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
that results from the fact that each voter does have as many votes to distribute as there are members in the city council. Which means that each of the around 1.1 millon (if I'm correct) people eligible to vote had 80 votes. The total number of valid votes cast sums up to 40.408.200. Btw the Bavarian voting system on the communal level is very flexible: You can place up to 3 votes onto a single candidate ( Cumulative voting) and additionally it is possible to place votes on candidates from different parties ( Panachage).
InfoBroker2020 ( talk) 19:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Recently, @ KaiMartin has changed ( ) an image in Infobox displaying Neues Rathaus (New Townhall) and Frauenkirche from File:Stadtbild München.jpg (existing) to File:Frauenkirche and Neues Rathaus Munich March 2013.JPG (new). The existing image has both Rathaus and Frauenkirche in portrait and has a clear display with abundant sunshine. The new image cuts off the Rathaus in half and also has less sunshine compared to the existing image. From the metadata of the images on Commons, both the images are taken in 2013 with just 20 days apart, giving them no distinguishable ageing. I think the older image should be used. -- DaxServer ( talk) 09:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)