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I'm slowly constructing this article as I research the subject, please feel free to contribute anything useful, it will be greatly appreciated! Please discuss majors additions here, or at least make a note of them, thanks. -- SGGH 15:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Still to do:
The above three areas I can't find much on, however I've written the background sections, devealopment program section, and introduction to my satisfaction at the moment-- SGGH 14:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You've done a good job with this article SGGH. It looks good: I'm a newcomer, and just getting used to being here. I'll look around and see what I can do. Richiar 13:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
are you sure about the casualty numbers? usually the colonial power has less soldiers and loses less soldiers. Wandalstouring 17:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Its the only information i could find for now, until i get a hold of more reliable information (or someone else does) it will have to do for now, though it did always look a little off.-- SGGH 09:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
" Bantu-speaking peoples were the native inhabitants of Mozambique since first and fourth centuries AD"
So, which century was it? Feijuada 13:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
That's a mix-up, i've corrected it now.-- SGGH 09:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've put this article 'on hold' for GA status for the moment. It is very close, but I would prefer to see the 'continuing war' section split up and the relevant parts of it integrated with the 'carnation revolution' section. As things stand I think the structure hinders the clear presentation of the material about the end of the War. The only other comment I'd make is that there are a few noticeable typos. Great work and a fascinating topic! The Land 15:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The article states
"...which were provided money and slaves by the British Empire to work in mines and construct railways."
in relation to approx 1881 and the origins of the Mozambican state. Is this correct? It was my understanding that the British abolished all slavery exploits at least half a century earlier? Have changed it to cheap labour.--
Zleitzen
(talk) 14:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it really "Emilio Lourenco", not "Emilio Lourenço"? The latter seems more likely. - Jmabel | Talk 16:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Similarly, "Lourenco Matola". - Jmabel | Talk 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC) solved SGGH 19:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
There is really rather much here cited to Encarta. I'd recommend looking for better citations on these matters. - Jmabel | Talk 17:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The section Insurgency under Mondlane (1964-69) circles around and says the same things more than once, for example about "freedom to move". - Jmabel | Talk 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
"On the [[October 10|10<sup>th</sup>]] or [[October 11|11<sup>th</sup> of October]] [[1966]]": the whole purpose of linking dates is so that they will format correctly for the user's options, but what is done here totally defeats that. - Jmabel | Talk 17:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The section about early US & UN support is a bit unclear (how this fits in with the rest of the story and the larger picture in Africa). Someone might want to expand on this, or link appropriately to an article that does so. - Jmabel | Talk 17:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
After first mention of both names, and outside of quotations, shouldn't we stick with either Mozambique Liberation Front or FRELIMO? Right now, we mostly use the latter, but occasionally the former. This seems unnecessarily confusing. - Jmabel | Talk 17:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The article argues with itself. It is unknown who did this, but it was "revealed" that Aginter Press was responsible. - Jmabel | Talk 17:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks like you did well (and rapidly) on those. Here are the remaining in-line remarks I made that should presumably still be addressed:
- Jmabel | Talk 22:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted to the former version of the lead for two reasons. Firstly, the section "Portugal's wars against independence guerrilla fighters in its 500-year-old African territories erupted in 1961 in Angola. In surprise attacks, rebels butchered Portuguese farmers and their families, including women, children and their black employees, on remote Angolan plantations." is too POV in my opinion, and there were other POV issues also, and the former lead handles things better, and secondly it went into too much detail for the brief summary it ought to be. SGGH speak! 12:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I am hereby editing the result of this article based on actual evidence given by both FRELIMO and Portuguese War Department sources, that claim in conssonance the military victory of the Portuguese forces by the end of the war.
93.108.198.179 ( talk) 12:58, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Most images of the Portuguese military shown in this article are not suitable to illustrate it for several reasons:
I therefore propose the removal of the images that do not illustrate the reality of this War and to replace them with appropriate images if available. JSobral (talk) 23:45, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Is this article in American or British English? I found instances of both, which isn't ok. -- John ( talk) 21:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
What does this sentence mean? "The African overseas provinces of Portugal's GDP growth was also widely notable and the construction of infrastructure were at a record high during the war." It's a remarkable sentence to find in a Featured Article. -- John ( talk) 06:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Some of the references don't seem properly cited, especially the first 20 or so. Brutannica ( talk) 18:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
I have a very specific quote that really needs to be sourced:
"Originally, the United States offered support to the nationalist groups in Africa. citation needed This support was ostensibly in keeping with Wilsonian principles, which advocated self-determination and independence for colonised nations. citation needed" [My tags].
This runs in the face of what was going on during the middle period of the Cold War. Early during the Indochina War c.1945-1953, the US did originally support the Viet Minh during this time, but switched sides to support the French Colonial Government in order to strengthen the French within NATO against a possible Third World War with the Soviets. By the 1960s the US was already supporting many non-democratic governments around the world, so supporting the Portuguese Military Government would have been part of the US Containment Policy in the effort of fighting the Soviets and Communism in general.
Can we get this sourced... Dinkytown talk 19:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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I just removed the deprecated FrontPage Magazine, but other sources also don't look reliable. Also, there are serious verifiability issues with citing books but not providing a page number. ( t · c) buidhe 02:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm sure that there was resentment among much of the population, but this was another guerilla war that was fomented by Marxists. The article doesn't reflect that very well. It was more likely planned in Moscow before it started in Mozambique, and the KGB etc would have taken the steps in arming them. 2A00:23EE:1708:6409:88BF:4CE9:7D86:FE1D ( talk) 07:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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I'm slowly constructing this article as I research the subject, please feel free to contribute anything useful, it will be greatly appreciated! Please discuss majors additions here, or at least make a note of them, thanks. -- SGGH 15:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Still to do:
The above three areas I can't find much on, however I've written the background sections, devealopment program section, and introduction to my satisfaction at the moment-- SGGH 14:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You've done a good job with this article SGGH. It looks good: I'm a newcomer, and just getting used to being here. I'll look around and see what I can do. Richiar 13:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
are you sure about the casualty numbers? usually the colonial power has less soldiers and loses less soldiers. Wandalstouring 17:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Its the only information i could find for now, until i get a hold of more reliable information (or someone else does) it will have to do for now, though it did always look a little off.-- SGGH 09:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
" Bantu-speaking peoples were the native inhabitants of Mozambique since first and fourth centuries AD"
So, which century was it? Feijuada 13:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
That's a mix-up, i've corrected it now.-- SGGH 09:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've put this article 'on hold' for GA status for the moment. It is very close, but I would prefer to see the 'continuing war' section split up and the relevant parts of it integrated with the 'carnation revolution' section. As things stand I think the structure hinders the clear presentation of the material about the end of the War. The only other comment I'd make is that there are a few noticeable typos. Great work and a fascinating topic! The Land 15:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The article states
"...which were provided money and slaves by the British Empire to work in mines and construct railways."
in relation to approx 1881 and the origins of the Mozambican state. Is this correct? It was my understanding that the British abolished all slavery exploits at least half a century earlier? Have changed it to cheap labour.--
Zleitzen
(talk) 14:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it really "Emilio Lourenco", not "Emilio Lourenço"? The latter seems more likely. - Jmabel | Talk 16:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Similarly, "Lourenco Matola". - Jmabel | Talk 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC) solved SGGH 19:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
There is really rather much here cited to Encarta. I'd recommend looking for better citations on these matters. - Jmabel | Talk 17:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The section Insurgency under Mondlane (1964-69) circles around and says the same things more than once, for example about "freedom to move". - Jmabel | Talk 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
"On the [[October 10|10<sup>th</sup>]] or [[October 11|11<sup>th</sup> of October]] [[1966]]": the whole purpose of linking dates is so that they will format correctly for the user's options, but what is done here totally defeats that. - Jmabel | Talk 17:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The section about early US & UN support is a bit unclear (how this fits in with the rest of the story and the larger picture in Africa). Someone might want to expand on this, or link appropriately to an article that does so. - Jmabel | Talk 17:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
After first mention of both names, and outside of quotations, shouldn't we stick with either Mozambique Liberation Front or FRELIMO? Right now, we mostly use the latter, but occasionally the former. This seems unnecessarily confusing. - Jmabel | Talk 17:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The article argues with itself. It is unknown who did this, but it was "revealed" that Aginter Press was responsible. - Jmabel | Talk 17:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks like you did well (and rapidly) on those. Here are the remaining in-line remarks I made that should presumably still be addressed:
- Jmabel | Talk 22:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted to the former version of the lead for two reasons. Firstly, the section "Portugal's wars against independence guerrilla fighters in its 500-year-old African territories erupted in 1961 in Angola. In surprise attacks, rebels butchered Portuguese farmers and their families, including women, children and their black employees, on remote Angolan plantations." is too POV in my opinion, and there were other POV issues also, and the former lead handles things better, and secondly it went into too much detail for the brief summary it ought to be. SGGH speak! 12:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I am hereby editing the result of this article based on actual evidence given by both FRELIMO and Portuguese War Department sources, that claim in conssonance the military victory of the Portuguese forces by the end of the war.
93.108.198.179 ( talk) 12:58, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Most images of the Portuguese military shown in this article are not suitable to illustrate it for several reasons:
I therefore propose the removal of the images that do not illustrate the reality of this War and to replace them with appropriate images if available. JSobral (talk) 23:45, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Is this article in American or British English? I found instances of both, which isn't ok. -- John ( talk) 21:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
What does this sentence mean? "The African overseas provinces of Portugal's GDP growth was also widely notable and the construction of infrastructure were at a record high during the war." It's a remarkable sentence to find in a Featured Article. -- John ( talk) 06:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Some of the references don't seem properly cited, especially the first 20 or so. Brutannica ( talk) 18:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
I have a very specific quote that really needs to be sourced:
"Originally, the United States offered support to the nationalist groups in Africa. citation needed This support was ostensibly in keeping with Wilsonian principles, which advocated self-determination and independence for colonised nations. citation needed" [My tags].
This runs in the face of what was going on during the middle period of the Cold War. Early during the Indochina War c.1945-1953, the US did originally support the Viet Minh during this time, but switched sides to support the French Colonial Government in order to strengthen the French within NATO against a possible Third World War with the Soviets. By the 1960s the US was already supporting many non-democratic governments around the world, so supporting the Portuguese Military Government would have been part of the US Containment Policy in the effort of fighting the Soviets and Communism in general.
Can we get this sourced... Dinkytown talk 19:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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I just removed the deprecated FrontPage Magazine, but other sources also don't look reliable. Also, there are serious verifiability issues with citing books but not providing a page number. ( t · c) buidhe 02:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm sure that there was resentment among much of the population, but this was another guerilla war that was fomented by Marxists. The article doesn't reflect that very well. It was more likely planned in Moscow before it started in Mozambique, and the KGB etc would have taken the steps in arming them. 2A00:23EE:1708:6409:88BF:4CE9:7D86:FE1D ( talk) 07:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)