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Its a drink you either love or hate. With a scoop of vanilla ice-cream floating in it, its probably the finest drink in the world. That's if you don't hate it! To me it takes a bit like a sweetened version of Guiness.... FK
What does it taste like?
It tastes like carbonated motor-oil to me.-- Paul 05:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
I may be an upstate New Yorker, but I have tried Moxie in the past, and my opinion of it is pretty much the same as you guys. My parents make it a point to get a 12-pack of Moxie whenever they visit the Bay State. I'm not much of a gambling man (and call me crazy), but I'm willing to bet that one day the Massachusetts government will consider smuggling Moxie west of the state line bootlegging (much like Coors and Texas. Ever see Smokey and the Bandit?) JB82 02:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Isn't "moxie" mainly an noun, similar in meaning to "attitude"?
Perhaps some kind of disambiguation page is required?
I vote No. This was originally brought up in July and the sky hasn't fallen since then. Besides the other definiton of Moxie is a dictionary word, not encyclopedic, so it shouldn't even be in Wikipedia, but in Wiktionary.
Gator1
19:37, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I was refering to the term "Moxie" from the web-based online Role-playing Game, the Kingdom of loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com). There's an entire wiki for it already, but I did a search on Moxie with the intent to find a link to KOL....Nevermind...I found their wiki shortly after this...
When I was young a 10 cent bottle of Moxie was considered a punishment not a Treat.
"The women will think your foxy if you chug-a-lug your Moxie" As a long time Moxie lover, I have to ask, how many of you have tasted paint thinner, motor oil, or mineral spirits? Because they dont taste anything near an ice cold Moxie. It also goes great with any alcohol as a mixer... just dont knock it till you try it... Christopher "Infamous" Cochran
I live in California and some stores have begun selling Moxie cherry cola and cream soda drinks. I have never seen the orriginal Moxie drink described in this article, but the Moxie in California is definitely the same brand. The pointing man logo is the same, but the sodas are sold only in glass bottles. Cherry cola is the one I see most often, and it's tasty, but I don't think it has the unique flavor that others have described in this article. Are these other flavors of Moxie common where they sell the original Moxie, or are they only sold to places where the orriginal flavor of Moxie is unknown? There should be some mention of Moxie's other flavors and where they are sold.
The other flavors of moxie are only found in the pacific northwest and are produced by a bottling company based there which mixes the moxie concentrate that the Monarch company manufactures with other flavors. In the east and in other parts of the country where moxie is sold the only varieties available are original and diet. -- Facedogg 23:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I know of a Richland, WA convenience store that sells Moxie Cherry Cola. I've asked about the chances of them selling Original Moxie, because I want to try it. They said they haven't had any requests for it yet.
Bummer!
Can anyone verify that Moxie was invented in Farmington, Maine? Everything I've read about moxie online points to its invention in Lowell, MA. I have yet to see any connection to Moxie and Farmington, Maine besides here on Wikipedia. Does anyone have a copy of The Moxie Encyclopedia? Besides various internet articles I have no solid evidence. 70.161.84.50 07:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I thought that the phrase "he's got Moxie" shows up in 1930's film noir as a synonym for the modern "he's got balls" (viz. he's got an attitude, he's brave, per dict-def discussed above; in the sense of "watch out, he's been drinking Moxie all night"). linas 16:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
An earlier use is the 1920's movie Changeling with Angelina Jolie, the murderer on entering the court says to her "Hey. I, I saw you in the papers. You've got a lot of moxie standing up to the police like that." QuentinUK ( talk) 00:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
I think a clearer distinction about why Moxie is the first mass-produced soft drink, despite the fact that the Vernor's article states: "Detroit's Vernors ginger ale shares the title of America's oldest soft drink with Hires Root Beer. It was invented in 1866 ..."
Hey anyone who enjoys drinking Moxie I created a userbox for your profiles. it's {{ User:UBX/User drinks Moxie}} and appears as
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Pharos04 09:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over this article I noticed that the trivia section contains a boldface bullet consisting of
Content removed due to appropriateness level
it replaced a comment about the online game Kingdom of Loathing's use of the term 'moxie.' This seems to me to be as valid a trivia comment as any other, certainly more pertinent than "Content removed due to appropriateness level," which has nothing to do with Moxie.
I'd like to recommend that the original statement be returned, or at least that the new one be removed.
Teto 04:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the brand Moxie is currently owned by Cornucopia Beverages in New Hampshire. I just got back from New England with a few cases of Moxie and Diet moxie in tow. The packaging claims that Moxie is bottled under the authority of Monarch Beverages in Georgia. In addition, Moxie-branded energy and fruit sodas available in Indiana and Illinois list Monarch as the licensor for Moxie. Is there some kind of sublicensing thing going on, or does Monarch truly own the brand?
In addition to this, I noticed an odd quirk in how people refer to Moxie in New England. Moxie-- as a brand name-- was usually referred to as "the Moxie," as in "Hey, he's drinking the Moxie" or "So, you like the taste of the Moxie?" Can anyone who lives in the area confirm or deny this quirk? Student Driver 19:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
That's a "regionalism", especially common in Boston and eastern New England. Using the article "the", I mean, in front of a proper noun. It's probably becoming obsolete, as I've mostly heard it from people much older than myself, as in "I work at the Raytheon" or "my sister's a secretary for the Gillette" instead of just using the names of the companies. I'm actually a little surprised that Moxie (which I love) gets that treatment. If it's still in common usage outside of the greater Boston area,--my neck of the woods--there's still hope. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegonus ( talk • contribs) 02:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that 2-liters of Moxie are sold in the same style bottles as most Coca-Cola products, rather than the design used by most other brands. This seems to line up with the statement in the article: "The Moxie brand was purchased in 1966 by the Monarch Beverage Company of Atlanta. In 2007 Monarch sold it to its current owner, Cornucopia Beverages Inc. of Bedford, New Hampshire, which is owned by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of Northern New England, a subsidiary of the Kirin Brewery Company, based in Tokyo." So I guess you could say that CCBCNNE owns it. Alhanalem ( talk) 01:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I think the key to organizing and expanding this article and incorporating the trivia section is to break it up into a few key sections: History, Taste, New England roots, Moxie in popular culture, and Expansion plans (this last to cover the recent change in ownership and push for national distribution). There are plenty of source materials in print and online. With a little dedication, this could be a featured article someday. - Dravecky 20:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing items from the trivia section which don't pertain directly to Moxie the carbonated beverage. The common noun "moxie" is a term that's entered the lexicon having nothing to do with the soda, apart from its origins; given that this page is about the soda, not the word, I don't think it's necessary or beneficial to include every instance of the word "moxie" being used. -- Fullobeans ( talk) 18:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it caffeinated? The article does not say. Could we get some elucidation? Cernansky ( talk) 23:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
When I was telling a friend of mine about the joy that is Moxie, he told me he doesn't like cream soda. What? Cream soda? I was confused. I finally figured it out ... Wikipedia has a weird logo.
What's with the bad choice of logo? Sure, there is (used to be?) some cream soda based on Moxie, but that's not Moxie! That would be like the page for Coca-Cola using the logo for Cherry Coke as its main logo ... OK, it's a related product, but it's not the primary product being represented.
I was going to just upload a picture of the logo from a modern Moxie bottle and be done with it, but apparently I haven't made enough changes to be trusted to upload, so instead I'll just ask that anybody who has access to Moxie (and a scanner or otherwise better image-taking apparatus than me) please fix the darned logo!
GregorR ( talk) 05:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Nice article, but it really suffers from users adding tidbits of information without regard to context. Thanks to anyone who'll turn it into a cohesive text. Maikel ( talk) 13:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Does modern Moxie still have that bitter aftertaste? Maikel ( talk) 15:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Following the link does not actually provide any information about this product. Can anyone verify that it is actually distributed? AsukaSeagull 17:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.72.19 ( talk)
I've placed a {{ non-free}} hatnote in this article. My concern is that this November 2008 edit which introduced a complete requote of an article attributed to the New Hampshire Union Leader may be requoting an excessive amount of WP:NONFREE content. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Done - Quote removed.
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What's that rather alien looking paragraph about doxycycline doing there? Doxycycline is apparently an antibiotic. Has that any relevance, and is it true? Seems a bit... incongruous. 188.29.165.227 ( talk) 01:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
Its a drink you either love or hate. With a scoop of vanilla ice-cream floating in it, its probably the finest drink in the world. That's if you don't hate it! To me it takes a bit like a sweetened version of Guiness.... FK
What does it taste like?
It tastes like carbonated motor-oil to me.-- Paul 05:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
I may be an upstate New Yorker, but I have tried Moxie in the past, and my opinion of it is pretty much the same as you guys. My parents make it a point to get a 12-pack of Moxie whenever they visit the Bay State. I'm not much of a gambling man (and call me crazy), but I'm willing to bet that one day the Massachusetts government will consider smuggling Moxie west of the state line bootlegging (much like Coors and Texas. Ever see Smokey and the Bandit?) JB82 02:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Isn't "moxie" mainly an noun, similar in meaning to "attitude"?
Perhaps some kind of disambiguation page is required?
I vote No. This was originally brought up in July and the sky hasn't fallen since then. Besides the other definiton of Moxie is a dictionary word, not encyclopedic, so it shouldn't even be in Wikipedia, but in Wiktionary.
Gator1
19:37, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I was refering to the term "Moxie" from the web-based online Role-playing Game, the Kingdom of loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com). There's an entire wiki for it already, but I did a search on Moxie with the intent to find a link to KOL....Nevermind...I found their wiki shortly after this...
When I was young a 10 cent bottle of Moxie was considered a punishment not a Treat.
"The women will think your foxy if you chug-a-lug your Moxie" As a long time Moxie lover, I have to ask, how many of you have tasted paint thinner, motor oil, or mineral spirits? Because they dont taste anything near an ice cold Moxie. It also goes great with any alcohol as a mixer... just dont knock it till you try it... Christopher "Infamous" Cochran
I live in California and some stores have begun selling Moxie cherry cola and cream soda drinks. I have never seen the orriginal Moxie drink described in this article, but the Moxie in California is definitely the same brand. The pointing man logo is the same, but the sodas are sold only in glass bottles. Cherry cola is the one I see most often, and it's tasty, but I don't think it has the unique flavor that others have described in this article. Are these other flavors of Moxie common where they sell the original Moxie, or are they only sold to places where the orriginal flavor of Moxie is unknown? There should be some mention of Moxie's other flavors and where they are sold.
The other flavors of moxie are only found in the pacific northwest and are produced by a bottling company based there which mixes the moxie concentrate that the Monarch company manufactures with other flavors. In the east and in other parts of the country where moxie is sold the only varieties available are original and diet. -- Facedogg 23:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I know of a Richland, WA convenience store that sells Moxie Cherry Cola. I've asked about the chances of them selling Original Moxie, because I want to try it. They said they haven't had any requests for it yet.
Bummer!
Can anyone verify that Moxie was invented in Farmington, Maine? Everything I've read about moxie online points to its invention in Lowell, MA. I have yet to see any connection to Moxie and Farmington, Maine besides here on Wikipedia. Does anyone have a copy of The Moxie Encyclopedia? Besides various internet articles I have no solid evidence. 70.161.84.50 07:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I thought that the phrase "he's got Moxie" shows up in 1930's film noir as a synonym for the modern "he's got balls" (viz. he's got an attitude, he's brave, per dict-def discussed above; in the sense of "watch out, he's been drinking Moxie all night"). linas 16:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
An earlier use is the 1920's movie Changeling with Angelina Jolie, the murderer on entering the court says to her "Hey. I, I saw you in the papers. You've got a lot of moxie standing up to the police like that." QuentinUK ( talk) 00:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
I think a clearer distinction about why Moxie is the first mass-produced soft drink, despite the fact that the Vernor's article states: "Detroit's Vernors ginger ale shares the title of America's oldest soft drink with Hires Root Beer. It was invented in 1866 ..."
Hey anyone who enjoys drinking Moxie I created a userbox for your profiles. it's {{ User:UBX/User drinks Moxie}} and appears as
Moxie | This user drinks Moxie. |
Pharos04 09:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over this article I noticed that the trivia section contains a boldface bullet consisting of
Content removed due to appropriateness level
it replaced a comment about the online game Kingdom of Loathing's use of the term 'moxie.' This seems to me to be as valid a trivia comment as any other, certainly more pertinent than "Content removed due to appropriateness level," which has nothing to do with Moxie.
I'd like to recommend that the original statement be returned, or at least that the new one be removed.
Teto 04:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the brand Moxie is currently owned by Cornucopia Beverages in New Hampshire. I just got back from New England with a few cases of Moxie and Diet moxie in tow. The packaging claims that Moxie is bottled under the authority of Monarch Beverages in Georgia. In addition, Moxie-branded energy and fruit sodas available in Indiana and Illinois list Monarch as the licensor for Moxie. Is there some kind of sublicensing thing going on, or does Monarch truly own the brand?
In addition to this, I noticed an odd quirk in how people refer to Moxie in New England. Moxie-- as a brand name-- was usually referred to as "the Moxie," as in "Hey, he's drinking the Moxie" or "So, you like the taste of the Moxie?" Can anyone who lives in the area confirm or deny this quirk? Student Driver 19:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
That's a "regionalism", especially common in Boston and eastern New England. Using the article "the", I mean, in front of a proper noun. It's probably becoming obsolete, as I've mostly heard it from people much older than myself, as in "I work at the Raytheon" or "my sister's a secretary for the Gillette" instead of just using the names of the companies. I'm actually a little surprised that Moxie (which I love) gets that treatment. If it's still in common usage outside of the greater Boston area,--my neck of the woods--there's still hope. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegonus ( talk • contribs) 02:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that 2-liters of Moxie are sold in the same style bottles as most Coca-Cola products, rather than the design used by most other brands. This seems to line up with the statement in the article: "The Moxie brand was purchased in 1966 by the Monarch Beverage Company of Atlanta. In 2007 Monarch sold it to its current owner, Cornucopia Beverages Inc. of Bedford, New Hampshire, which is owned by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of Northern New England, a subsidiary of the Kirin Brewery Company, based in Tokyo." So I guess you could say that CCBCNNE owns it. Alhanalem ( talk) 01:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I think the key to organizing and expanding this article and incorporating the trivia section is to break it up into a few key sections: History, Taste, New England roots, Moxie in popular culture, and Expansion plans (this last to cover the recent change in ownership and push for national distribution). There are plenty of source materials in print and online. With a little dedication, this could be a featured article someday. - Dravecky 20:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing items from the trivia section which don't pertain directly to Moxie the carbonated beverage. The common noun "moxie" is a term that's entered the lexicon having nothing to do with the soda, apart from its origins; given that this page is about the soda, not the word, I don't think it's necessary or beneficial to include every instance of the word "moxie" being used. -- Fullobeans ( talk) 18:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it caffeinated? The article does not say. Could we get some elucidation? Cernansky ( talk) 23:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
When I was telling a friend of mine about the joy that is Moxie, he told me he doesn't like cream soda. What? Cream soda? I was confused. I finally figured it out ... Wikipedia has a weird logo.
What's with the bad choice of logo? Sure, there is (used to be?) some cream soda based on Moxie, but that's not Moxie! That would be like the page for Coca-Cola using the logo for Cherry Coke as its main logo ... OK, it's a related product, but it's not the primary product being represented.
I was going to just upload a picture of the logo from a modern Moxie bottle and be done with it, but apparently I haven't made enough changes to be trusted to upload, so instead I'll just ask that anybody who has access to Moxie (and a scanner or otherwise better image-taking apparatus than me) please fix the darned logo!
GregorR ( talk) 05:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Nice article, but it really suffers from users adding tidbits of information without regard to context. Thanks to anyone who'll turn it into a cohesive text. Maikel ( talk) 13:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Does modern Moxie still have that bitter aftertaste? Maikel ( talk) 15:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Following the link does not actually provide any information about this product. Can anyone verify that it is actually distributed? AsukaSeagull 17:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.72.19 ( talk)
I've placed a {{ non-free}} hatnote in this article. My concern is that this November 2008 edit which introduced a complete requote of an article attributed to the New Hampshire Union Leader may be requoting an excessive amount of WP:NONFREE content. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Done - Quote removed.
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What's that rather alien looking paragraph about doxycycline doing there? Doxycycline is apparently an antibiotic. Has that any relevance, and is it true? Seems a bit... incongruous. 188.29.165.227 ( talk) 01:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC)