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..for research: are there passes which never were passed? Maybe there are geographic saddle points which nobody wants to enter, i.e. between lower mountains in Alaska, Sibiria or Antarctica.
There are saddle points beween mountains climbed by men - but never traversed: imho the South Col of Mount Everest. Entered mainly from the west by some 2000 or 3000 persons. Extremely seldom entered (imo 9 persons) from the east side, but everybody climbed down same side as he climbed up.. No traverse. -- 77.11.230.123 ( talk) 18:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I came across the articles water gap and wind gap. It might be useful to link to these in the article and constant how they are different; or, if they aren't, to considering merging. — Sladen ( talk) 15:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Consider removal of the Andes Mountains section, or merging with another subject, as it fits poorly into the structure of this article. Consider reducing the summary, and placing some of the information into sub-topics such as Formation, Etymology, Famous passes and other relevant topics. GARETHenterprises© 17:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garethdennis ( talk • contribs)
This page is totally wrong. A pass is a route through high mountains. It is frequently at a saddle point, but is not defined to be so. 63.107.91.99 ( talk) 18:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
A summit is usually considered to be the highest point on a pass; however, the term is sometimes used for the highest point on a mountain or hill. To confuse matters further, however, a summit may be a high point along a road, whether or not in a pass; in either case, the geographical feature may be designated on maps, road signs, etc., as "Such-and-such Summit," rather than "Such-and-such Pass."
If anyone has reliable links to information about this, it might be incorporated into the article. 69.42.7.98 ( talk) 04:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
It's the 21st century for Christ's sake. Please stop using feet and inches to measure things like mountains. It's a primitive system used only by a very small number of people round the world (mostly Americans) and totally confuses the rest of us. Sure someone will point out that some British people still use such measurements but anyone who has been schooled since the 1970s was ONLY taught metric units. Wikipedia shouldn't be dumbing down and if Americans can't find the sense to use metric measurements then we shouldn't pander to such ignorance. Proving measurements in imperial units (or using both imperial and metric) just discourages Americans from ever bothering to convert.--
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'Brennig' has been listed as a word for a pass - in what language is this? Citation required or it needs removing- I'm happy for someone to enlighten me. Geopersona ( talk) 07:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Whilst a mountain pass usually crosses a col or saddle, they are not the same thing and cols and saddles may have no recognised routes over them. I propose we create a separate article called "col" (redirect "saddle"). -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:10, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Pasting this now-archived Reference Desk thread here as it is about this page and some text that ought to be confirmed/clarified/adjusted. Pfly ( talk) 22:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there some sort of defined criterion or criteria for what does and doesn't constitute a mountain pass? Our article on the topic says that there are precisely 42 passes in the 5300-km-long border between Argentina and Chile; it would seem that some sort is necessary in order to say that most low spots between mountains aren't truly passes. Is there perhaps a minimum amount of topographic prominence for the mountains on each side of the pass? Nyttend ( talk) 01:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm being lazy here. But this article could do with some info on the wider significance of mountain passes beyond geography and transport. Even beside their historical significance these places are fascinating. 158.223.165.11 ( talk) 16:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Following up a comment from 13 years ago (!!!) - both water gap and wind gap are small, lame articles with no references but good graphics - they should be incorporated into this one. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 19:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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..for research: are there passes which never were passed? Maybe there are geographic saddle points which nobody wants to enter, i.e. between lower mountains in Alaska, Sibiria or Antarctica.
There are saddle points beween mountains climbed by men - but never traversed: imho the South Col of Mount Everest. Entered mainly from the west by some 2000 or 3000 persons. Extremely seldom entered (imo 9 persons) from the east side, but everybody climbed down same side as he climbed up.. No traverse. -- 77.11.230.123 ( talk) 18:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I came across the articles water gap and wind gap. It might be useful to link to these in the article and constant how they are different; or, if they aren't, to considering merging. — Sladen ( talk) 15:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Consider removal of the Andes Mountains section, or merging with another subject, as it fits poorly into the structure of this article. Consider reducing the summary, and placing some of the information into sub-topics such as Formation, Etymology, Famous passes and other relevant topics. GARETHenterprises© 17:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garethdennis ( talk • contribs)
This page is totally wrong. A pass is a route through high mountains. It is frequently at a saddle point, but is not defined to be so. 63.107.91.99 ( talk) 18:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
A summit is usually considered to be the highest point on a pass; however, the term is sometimes used for the highest point on a mountain or hill. To confuse matters further, however, a summit may be a high point along a road, whether or not in a pass; in either case, the geographical feature may be designated on maps, road signs, etc., as "Such-and-such Summit," rather than "Such-and-such Pass."
If anyone has reliable links to information about this, it might be incorporated into the article. 69.42.7.98 ( talk) 04:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
It's the 21st century for Christ's sake. Please stop using feet and inches to measure things like mountains. It's a primitive system used only by a very small number of people round the world (mostly Americans) and totally confuses the rest of us. Sure someone will point out that some British people still use such measurements but anyone who has been schooled since the 1970s was ONLY taught metric units. Wikipedia shouldn't be dumbing down and if Americans can't find the sense to use metric measurements then we shouldn't pander to such ignorance. Proving measurements in imperial units (or using both imperial and metric) just discourages Americans from ever bothering to convert.--
Xania
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22:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
'Brennig' has been listed as a word for a pass - in what language is this? Citation required or it needs removing- I'm happy for someone to enlighten me. Geopersona ( talk) 07:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Whilst a mountain pass usually crosses a col or saddle, they are not the same thing and cols and saddles may have no recognised routes over them. I propose we create a separate article called "col" (redirect "saddle"). -- Bermicourt ( talk) 19:10, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Pasting this now-archived Reference Desk thread here as it is about this page and some text that ought to be confirmed/clarified/adjusted. Pfly ( talk) 22:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there some sort of defined criterion or criteria for what does and doesn't constitute a mountain pass? Our article on the topic says that there are precisely 42 passes in the 5300-km-long border between Argentina and Chile; it would seem that some sort is necessary in order to say that most low spots between mountains aren't truly passes. Is there perhaps a minimum amount of topographic prominence for the mountains on each side of the pass? Nyttend ( talk) 01:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm being lazy here. But this article could do with some info on the wider significance of mountain passes beyond geography and transport. Even beside their historical significance these places are fascinating. 158.223.165.11 ( talk) 16:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Following up a comment from 13 years ago (!!!) - both water gap and wind gap are small, lame articles with no references but good graphics - they should be incorporated into this one. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 19:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)